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Old 07-26-04 | 12:24 PM
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can anyone confirm that this was also the case during his death scene, on the Death Star?
Shaw is still in the death scene!

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Old 07-26-04 | 12:25 PM
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From the pics I've seen (i don't have the DVD rip) Shaw is still in the unmasking scene. They've erased his eyebrows and changed his eyecolor I believe.

edit: or you can just look at the pic above. You guys are fast!

Oh yeah there's also a new line - "Wesa free!" spoken by everyone's fav bugged eye gungan. Or maybe it's just any old gungan, they're all the same...

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Old 07-26-04 | 12:31 PM
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Sorry the screen is dark. Contrast on these media players is usually set pretty low.
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Old 07-26-04 | 12:33 PM
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Oh yeah there's also a new line - "Wesa free!" spoken by everyone's fav bugged eye gungan.
Yeah, but that's not even worth mentioning. It's in the Naboo celebration scene, but it's so faint, even with the volume turned up loud, you can hardly hear. About the only way I can hear it is if I turn the speakers up and stick my ear to the speaker. all you can really hear is the loud cheering of people on Naboo.
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Old 07-26-04 | 12:44 PM
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So are these screencaps really representative of the video quality? How about Empire? How come no screencaps of that yet?
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Old 07-26-04 | 01:11 PM
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there is a cap flaoting around of Vader before the Emperor (a long shot/profile) along with text of the revised dialouge in that scene which is about on par with the unneccessary/idiotic change from
"bring my shuttle" to the verbose and inelegant "alert my star Destroyer..."
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Old 07-26-04 | 01:15 PM
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Oh yeah there's also a new line - "Wesa free!" spoken by everyone's fav bugged eye gungan.
Please God, no. No.
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Old 07-26-04 | 01:56 PM
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Please God, no. No.
I have to say that I'm not to thrilled about it either, but why would it bother you? I thought you are refusing to purchase these anyway.
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Old 07-26-04 | 04:22 PM
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So I take it, no one has seen "A New Hope" to verify any changes to that movie?
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Old 07-26-04 | 05:13 PM
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Here's something I posted at the HTF of a comparison of a screenshot I took (on top) compared to one of the new ones circulating:

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Old 07-26-04 | 05:25 PM
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Please God, no. No.
I guess that's the last straw now!

but why would it bother you
Why would it bother anyone period! It's so faint, you have to be intently listening for it in order to hear it. It's not like Jar-Jar is standing in the middle of the screen shouting "Weesa free". It's a beautfiful shot of a massive crowd in Naboo cheering, just like the other shots.

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Old 07-26-04 | 10:25 PM
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Here's a question - will the 20th Century Fox fanfare be updated for ANH? Even though they had the current logo for the SE, it was still the old-school fanfare. I'm hoping they give us the crystal clear version to match the rest of the series.

Minor point to be sure, but I think one of the few things that hasn't been determined yet...

The opening shot Tatooine matte painting looks a little dull as well. It could be brightened up a bit, of course maybe the restoration alone will take care of that...

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Old 07-26-04 | 10:27 PM
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Even though they had the current logo for the SE, it was still the old-school fanfare.
In my experience, the 20th Century Fox fanfare has never been as clean or loud as the films.
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Old 07-26-04 | 11:44 PM
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They should just digitally alter everyone's voice so that they all sound like the Swedish Chef. Now that would be something!
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Old 07-27-04 | 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by ckolchak
there is a cap flaoting around of Vader before the Emperor (a long shot/profile) along with text of the revised dialouge in that scene which is about on par with the unneccessary/idiotic change from
"bring my shuttle" to the verbose and inelegant "alert my star Destroyer..."
Is this the one?

audio clip

It has been changed if this clip is true. Maybe a spoiler for Episode 3 too. I have to say I don't like it, even if it kinda ties up some loose ends. I think it's too dumbing down for me.

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Old 07-27-04 | 04:33 AM
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The Han/Greedo scene has been fixed so that it looks a lot better, basically the same as the clip that was making the rounds a while back. But still not as good as restoring the scene would be. Lucas is not going to budge on this one guy's, unfortunately. He's playing politically correct!

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Old 07-27-04 | 04:36 AM
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The new dialogue makes the Luke/Vader confrontation scene at the end redundant. (I guess Anakin likes parroting whatever Palpatine tells him, like he did in AOTC.) It also seems to change the tone of the original, when Vader seemed to know the existence of Luke ("Yes, my master" he says meekly when told of Luke Skywalker, as if he were trying to hide it all along for his own agenda.) The new dialogue makes Vader seem more surprised at the revelation.

At least James Earl Jones still sounds like Vader after all these years!
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Old 07-27-04 | 04:38 AM
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Well, I think Vader is being coy. Then again, I always felt Vader was being coy with Palpatine.
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Old 07-27-04 | 04:42 AM
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Guys, these images are at imageshack.us! Unfortunately, it's a public site. Someone over at HTF posted the pics over there on a public image hosting site as well, and some asswipe played a trick changed one of the links to a disgusting pic of some guy spreading his backside.

All of these pictures are safe for now, but if this happens with these pics, there coming down until someone can offer a private pic site that can't be manipulated.
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Old 07-27-04 | 04:46 AM
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The new dialogue makes the Luke/Vader confrontation scene at the end redundant.
I didn't even think of that. But you're right. Knowing what we do now, it does seem repetitive. However for someone who's never seen Empire and starts at Star Wars and not Menace, I think the whopper still has punch despite this altered dialogue.

It also seems to change the tone of the original, when Vader seemed to know the existence of Luke ("Yes, my master" he says meekly when told of Luke Skywalker, as if he were trying to hide it all along for his own agenda.) The new dialogue makes Vader seem more surprised at the revelation.

At least James Earl Jones still sounds like Vader after all these years!
I always thought it was more of denial, that he was trying to forget that he had a life before. That's the Ep3 spoiler I was talking about. So I guess Anakin doesn't know he has kids or that he thinks
Spoiler:
they died with Padme


Amen on JEJ's voice.
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Old 07-27-04 | 04:53 AM
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I actually love the way Ian reads the lines. I also love the fact that for the extra line of dialogue, they were able to match Vader's almost flawlessly. Great work.
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Old 07-27-04 | 08:22 AM
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http://img52.exs.cx/img52/2666/haydenvader.jpg

Is it me or does it look like they changed the suit to fit Hayden's not quite as tall stature and short arms? LOL
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Old 07-27-04 | 08:53 AM
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I actually love the way Ian reads the lines. I also love the fact that for the extra line of dialogue, they were able to match Vader's almost flawlessly. Great work.
be careful... if you say anything good about the new editions you just might get flamed.
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Old 07-27-04 | 10:01 AM
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http://img52.exs.cx/img52/2666/haydenvader.jpg

Is it me or does it look like they changed the suit to fit Hayden's not quite as tall stature and short arms? LOL
He needs to "juice up" those arms.
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Please God, no. No.
And now I sit back and laugh long and hard. This is clearly Lucas says "I dont care what the hell you guys think - it's my movie, I'll do what I want" and giving basher camp a big gungan middle finger.

Classic stuff.
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