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#426
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Originally Posted by Bezerker
I hope ADV does get in the Blu-Ray business. $380-$500 for 1 season of anime on Blu-ray is insane. Funimation needs to get with the program and stop releasing poorly cropped crappy DBZ movies in high def. The only thing I could see topping the failure is Shin Chan on Blu-Ray.
I really do find it strange how anime gets cheaper when its translated, but manga gets more expensive. Manga is pretty much a two person job (translator and typesetter). They even have photocopiers now that will translate & typeset for you.
Anime however takes a lot more effort as you need to (for most cases) find someone to translate, timeset the subs, and not to mention find a cast of people to do the dub (who dont work for free i'd imagine).
My guess is that since the anime industry is huger in japan, they can get away with charging $70 for 4 episodes of a show. Bandai Visual seems to have tried this in R1 and they're about to join Geneon on the unemployment line from the news i've heard. They need to take notes from their counterparts at Bandai Entertainment and start releasing bricks with a $40 SRP.
I really do find it strange how anime gets cheaper when its translated, but manga gets more expensive. Manga is pretty much a two person job (translator and typesetter). They even have photocopiers now that will translate & typeset for you.
Anime however takes a lot more effort as you need to (for most cases) find someone to translate, timeset the subs, and not to mention find a cast of people to do the dub (who dont work for free i'd imagine).
My guess is that since the anime industry is huger in japan, they can get away with charging $70 for 4 episodes of a show. Bandai Visual seems to have tried this in R1 and they're about to join Geneon on the unemployment line from the news i've heard. They need to take notes from their counterparts at Bandai Entertainment and start releasing bricks with a $40 SRP.
I don't think the higher prices are solely because the anime market is bigger in Japan, I think it's the vast difference in mindset when it comes to collecting DVDs... you can see some of this difference when the ultra special expensive limited cool editions only come out in Japan because the market here (which is more price-conscious) just won't support it.
As far as manga goes... I think a lot of that increase in cost when it comes out domestically is because of the higher cost of printing and distribution here, as well as the lower fanbase. Comics are a very niche market in America, and even though domestic manga reaches out a bit further than the traditional American superhero stuff, it doesn't come close to the numbers that such publications reach in Japan. And when you look how expensive regular comics are here, translated manga seems like a deal in comparison. Manga is also a bit more disposable than DVDs in the Japanese mindset.
#427
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Okay, I caught up on Ah! My Goddess (first, second seasons, and movie) and I don't feel that the series really wrapped up at end of second season.
I also saw on AnimeNewsNetwork.com that there's another Ah! My Goddess series called Ah! My Goddess: Fighting Wings. But they only released 2 eposides last December... Anyone know any more detail on that one?
I also saw on AnimeNewsNetwork.com that there's another Ah! My Goddess series called Ah! My Goddess: Fighting Wings. But they only released 2 eposides last December... Anyone know any more detail on that one?
#428
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Originally Posted by McHawkson
Okay, I caught up on Ah! My Goddess (first, second seasons, and movie) and I don't feel that the series really wrapped up at end of second season.
I also saw on AnimeNewsNetwork.com that there's another Ah! My Goddess series called Ah! My Goddess: Fighting Wings. But they only released 2 eposides last December... Anyone know any more detail on that one?
I also saw on AnimeNewsNetwork.com that there's another Ah! My Goddess series called Ah! My Goddess: Fighting Wings. But they only released 2 eposides last December... Anyone know any more detail on that one?
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a couple of weeks ago i asked what was the best Evangelion collection to get and you guys told me that the Platinum Collection was the one. But at Amazon i see there are two version, the Platinum and the Platinum Perfect Collection, can anyone tell me the difference between the two?
I've read the Platinum Collection doesn't have the extras that the original platinum releases had, so does the Platinum Perfect collection has this extras included?
I wanna get the best possible version in terms of A/V quality and extras
http://www.amazon.com/Neon-Genesis-E...8348945&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Neon-Genesis-E...8348945&sr=1-3
I've read the Platinum Collection doesn't have the extras that the original platinum releases had, so does the Platinum Perfect collection has this extras included?
I wanna get the best possible version in terms of A/V quality and extras
http://www.amazon.com/Neon-Genesis-E...8348945&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Neon-Genesis-E...8348945&sr=1-3
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#430
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Originally Posted by eiker_ir
Originally Posted by eiker_ir
#432
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Okay, I came across "Kite" movie. I heard that it's very controversial movie. I saw the preview on Netflix, it's pretty gory movie and the Netflix members kept saying that it's better with Director's cut.
So, is it a good movie? Should I get Director's Cut version? I planned to see Kite Liberator after I see the first one.
So, is it a good movie? Should I get Director's Cut version? I planned to see Kite Liberator after I see the first one.
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Originally Posted by McHawkson
Okay, I came across "Kite" movie. I heard that it's very controversial movie. I saw the preview on Netflix, it's pretty gory movie and the Netflix members kept saying that it's better with Director's cut.
So, is it a good movie? Should I get Director's Cut version? I planned to see Kite Liberator after I see the first one.
So, is it a good movie? Should I get Director's Cut version? I planned to see Kite Liberator after I see the first one.
Be aware that it's controversial not just because of the violence, but because it contains graphic animated sex. Wikipedia has a good description of it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Kite
There are actually 3 versions released in R1... an "Edited Version" sold as general anime that has the sexual content removed, and a "Director's Cut" and "Uncut Special Edition". The "Director's Cut" version is actually still slightly censored to remove content questionable in R1 countries. I believe the "Uncut SE" is fully intact.
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#434
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Originally Posted by McHawkson
Okay, I came across "Kite" movie. I heard that it's very controversial movie. I saw the preview on Netflix, it's pretty gory movie and the Netflix members kept saying that it's better with Director's cut.
So, is it a good movie? Should I get Director's Cut version? I planned to see Kite Liberator after I see the first one.
So, is it a good movie? Should I get Director's Cut version? I planned to see Kite Liberator after I see the first one.
And as an owner of both the edited and Director's cut, I would recommed not getting the Directors Cut. The movie is just better IMO without the porn scenes.
#435
Originally Posted by Maxflier
Kite is a VERY good movie. The movie is just better IMO without the porn scenes.
The sex scenes (take them or leave them) go as far as illustrating the hold that the corrupt cop holds over Sawa - not to mention the effect that it is used for in the last act with Oburi (the male assassin).
I haven't seen the edited version so I can't say the same effect is present. But take it or leave it, if the director's intent is too disturbing then there's always Leon: The Professional one could go watch

But I think the inclusion of the pornographic scenes are far more poignant in Kite than they are in Umetsu's other ..Mezzo Forte.
#437
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Originally Posted by visitor Q
Yes and an arguably no.
The sex scenes (take them or leave them) go as far as illustrating the hold that the corrupt cop holds over Sawa - not to mention the effect that it is used for in the last act with Oburi (the male assassin).
I haven't seen the edited version so I can't say the same effect is present. But take it or leave it, if the director's intent is too disturbing then there's always Leon: The Professional one could go watch
But I think the inclusion of the pornographic scenes are far more poignant in Kite than they are in Umetsu's other ..Mezzo Forte.
The sex scenes (take them or leave them) go as far as illustrating the hold that the corrupt cop holds over Sawa - not to mention the effect that it is used for in the last act with Oburi (the male assassin).
I haven't seen the edited version so I can't say the same effect is present. But take it or leave it, if the director's intent is too disturbing then there's always Leon: The Professional one could go watch

But I think the inclusion of the pornographic scenes are far more poignant in Kite than they are in Umetsu's other ..Mezzo Forte.
You have a good point and it's not that i'm against the sex scenes themselves, just the hardcore nature of them. He could have toned it WAY down and gotten the same effect but instead goes with hardcore XXX which turns a fantastic movie into more of a novelty.
And for the record I am not offended in any way by porn, I watch my fair share. I just don't think it has a place in a movie like this. All this talk about Kite, I need to revisit it since it has been several years since I watched it last.
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Over ten days without a post! I know the bargains thread has gotten most of the activity recently, but surely there's something to discuss.
Taking a cue from the question in the OP (i hope this hasn't been asked before, at least not recently):
Favorite anime theme songs (opening songs/closing songs)?
Some songs I hunt down and listen to, or listen to on every episode; others, once I hear it once, I thank the producers for putting the opening on chapter one, and the episode start on chapter two of the disk. (I'm basing my list below on the OP as shown/heard on the American releases, and for the most part I disregard the lyrics because I don't know Japanese, and at least according to the subs, they're almost always about love anyway.)
My favorites offhand are:
Excel Saga
Urusei Yatsura (Lum's Love Song)
Steel Angel Kurumi
those three are just catchy and cute
Sakura Diaries
this one is very wistful to me
Paranoia Agent
Texhnolyze (although the series isn't doing much for me so far)
both of those are just cool
Any other good ones?
Taking a cue from the question in the OP (i hope this hasn't been asked before, at least not recently):
Favorite anime theme songs (opening songs/closing songs)?
Some songs I hunt down and listen to, or listen to on every episode; others, once I hear it once, I thank the producers for putting the opening on chapter one, and the episode start on chapter two of the disk. (I'm basing my list below on the OP as shown/heard on the American releases, and for the most part I disregard the lyrics because I don't know Japanese, and at least according to the subs, they're almost always about love anyway.)
My favorites offhand are:
Excel Saga
Urusei Yatsura (Lum's Love Song)
Steel Angel Kurumi
those three are just catchy and cute
Sakura Diaries
this one is very wistful to me
Paranoia Agent
Texhnolyze (although the series isn't doing much for me so far)
both of those are just cool
Any other good ones?
#439
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I always skip all introduction at beginning and ending of the show. 
Since you bought this thread back up, I would like to discuss about Berserk that I just finished it last Thursday. I thought it was pretty good series. But the ending... how did Guts got out of Limbo? The monsters are already surrounded and he probably stand no chance against sold-his-soul-to-devil Griffin... Or did I missed that part at beginning?

Since you bought this thread back up, I would like to discuss about Berserk that I just finished it last Thursday. I thought it was pretty good series. But the ending... how did Guts got out of Limbo? The monsters are already surrounded and he probably stand no chance against sold-his-soul-to-devil Griffin... Or did I missed that part at beginning?
#440
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In the manga a character called the Skull Knight shows up and rescues Guts and Casca. He then takes them outside Limbo where Rickert is waiting for them and he takes them to Godo's house. Guts and Casca briefly live in a small offshoot of an ore mine behind Godo's house (someone explains that that area of the mine used to house elves hundreds of years ago and they left a magic residue that will keep evil out). After a while, Guts receives the Dragonslayer (the big-ass sword he has) and his prosthetic arm and sets out to find the God Hand. I believe the first episode takes place around a year after the the last episode.
It's good that you liked Berserk. I'm a pretty big fan myself (I've even got the Dreamcast game). I think the anime is a very polarizing series. I've seen people absolutely love it and others absolutely hate it and I think the ending has something to do with it. Although a lot of fans consider the anime just a commercial for the manga.
It's good that you liked Berserk. I'm a pretty big fan myself (I've even got the Dreamcast game). I think the anime is a very polarizing series. I've seen people absolutely love it and others absolutely hate it and I think the ending has something to do with it. Although a lot of fans consider the anime just a commercial for the manga.
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#441
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Umm... That explained it.
I don't see any manga selling at Rightstuf.com, but they do sell graphic novel ones - I can assume it's same as manga. 25 graphic novels - it's going to put a serious impact on my budget!
I don't see any manga selling at Rightstuf.com, but they do sell graphic novel ones - I can assume it's same as manga. 25 graphic novels - it's going to put a serious impact on my budget!
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Originally Posted by McHawkson
Umm... That explained it.
I don't see any manga selling at Rightstuf.com, but they do sell graphic novel ones - I can assume it's same as manga. 25 graphic novels - it's going to put a serious impact on my budget!
I don't see any manga selling at Rightstuf.com, but they do sell graphic novel ones - I can assume it's same as manga. 25 graphic novels - it's going to put a serious impact on my budget!
#443
Originally Posted by dtcarson
Favorite anime theme songs (opening songs/closing songs)? Any other good ones?
The closing theme of Excel Saga "sung" by Menchi (I actually ordered the soundtrack CDs for Excel Saga from Right Stuf largely due to this song and the opening theme)
The opening theme from Ai Yori Yoshi was pretty good
The L/R opening them was catchy
I keep getting the opening theme from Heat Guy J and the opening theme from the early volumes of Bleach stuck in my head
I'm sure that there are some great songs from aine I haven't watched in a while too, but I can't remeber them off the top of my head.
#444
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Good anime songs:
Lain - Duvet
My wife and I are a big fan of the soundtrack (all of it) to Haibane Renmei. Good stuff.
I'm a big fan of the soundtrack to X TV. I own both of them. Love a couple of the main themes.
Lain - Duvet
My wife and I are a big fan of the soundtrack (all of it) to Haibane Renmei. Good stuff.
I'm a big fan of the soundtrack to X TV. I own both of them. Love a couple of the main themes.
#445
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Robert's Anime Corner Updates - May 9th, 2008:
I'm still getting a half dozen e-mails each week from folks wondering when Geneon's old titles will be back on the market. Anime fans are consummate optimists. :-) I actually do have an update of sorts, and I have not mentioned anything up until now because I didn't want to get anyone's hopes up - but what the heck, here goes. Geneon has been in serious talks with a major US home entertainment distributor for about the past three months to get their titles back on the street. I know exactly who it is, how far along they are, and the details that are going to make or break the deal. The trouble is I can't make any of that info public without jeopardizing our relationship with the new company, but perhaps it's helpful to let you guys know that there is something serious in the works. Whether the deal is completed or not remains to be seen, and I would advise everyone to not get their hopes up, but I will tell you this:
- If we don't hear anything by mid-summer we probably won't hear anything.
- Even if a major deal is struck, it won't involve Geneon's entire catalog circa Sept 2007. The new company will cherry pick those releases like people at Ruby Tuesday pick over the salad bar.
- The 'major distributor' they are in talks with is NOT one of the existing US Anime studios.
#446
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Originally Posted by dtcarson
Taking a cue from the question in the OP (i hope this hasn't been asked before, at least not recently):
Favorite anime theme songs (opening songs/closing songs)?
Favorite anime theme songs (opening songs/closing songs)?
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Samura champoo is probably my favorite opening song. I have it as my ring tone. I probably change it to the ending song in Death Note.
I really like a few openings and endings to Inuyasha but I also hate a few of them. I think they change theme songs every season.
I really like a few openings and endings to Inuyasha but I also hate a few of them. I think they change theme songs every season.
#450
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Originally Posted by Liontamer
I get the impression that some of you have some very impressive anime collections. Has anybody posted any pics of a particularly impressive collection in one of these threads?
I personally have never really thought of posting pictures of my anime collection. One of these days, I might do it. If you're curious here is a fairly accurate list of R1 anime collection. There are other animation and live-action titles (that associate with these anime studios) included in this list.



