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Old 06-04-19, 01:35 PM
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We don't have much longer to wait. Google is holding a press conference on June 6th. It will be interesting if they give us all of the details about it.

https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/06...vent-on-june-6
Knowing Google, they are going to announce it's cancellation in favor of their new streaming game service, YouTube Stadia.
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Old 06-06-19, 09:39 AM
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Details leaking out before presser today: https://kotaku.com/google-stadia-pri...tio-1835294433

The upcoming streaming platform Google Stadia won’t just follow the Netflix model, as many fans had hoped. It will instead have both a subscription and games for sale individually, as Kotaku previously reported, and the whole model sure sounds convoluted.


Stadia, which was announced in March, is a streaming platform designed to let you play games without a high-end console or computer. If it works as promised, it’ll let you pop a Chromecast into your television and access games through the cloud, no hardware required.

Google plans to release pricing and software details at 12pm ET today, but the news has leaked out early thanks to Canadian newspaper La Presse, which was pre-briefed. A rough translation of the article reveals that:
  • There will be a base subscription available when Stadia launches in November, for $11.99 Canadian per month. This one will give you access to some Stadia games at 4K resolution/60FPS.
  • Other games—newer ones, especially—you’ll have to buy.
  • In 2020, Google will launch a “Stadia Base” model that’s totally free, but only allows you to play games at 1080p resolution.
  • A pricey Stadia Founder’s Edition will be for sale this fall ($169 Canadian) that includes a Chromecast Ultra, a Stadia controller, a three-month subscription, and Destiny 2 (which, as Kotaku revealed yesterday, will be on the platform at launch).
  • Doom, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, the new Tomb Raider trilogy, and The Division 2 are also part of the Stadia launch lineup.
  • Minimum internet speed requirement is a 10mbps download/1mbps upload.
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Old 06-06-19, 09:01 PM
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What are your thoughts on this? Depending on what Microsoft has to say on Sunday, I am very tempted to dive in. Google's spotty track record concerns me the most.
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Old 06-06-19, 09:16 PM
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What are your thoughts on this? Depending on what Microsoft has to say on Sunday, I am very tempted to dive in. Google's spotty track record concerns me the most.
The overall commitment required is pretty low on it so I don't see much harm in diving in. At least on the subscription side. If it's a dud and you get the Founders Edition, you still have a Chromecast Ultra and a gamepad.

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Old 06-07-19, 10:13 AM
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Considering the reality of bandwidth, the console seems to be half a decade before it's time. That being said, this is what PS6 and X-Box Three will be. Might as well get used to it.
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Old 06-07-19, 10:56 AM
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I have zero interest in this, and I don't even understand the target market? You need to pay $10 a month just in order to buy games, and if you don't have an internet connection you have zero access to those games. I guess this is for people who own a 4K TV, but don't want to buy a PS Pro or an Xbox One X?

If I wait for the non-subscription version, I still have to pay full price for games, but now I don't get surround sound, and I'm limited to 1080P. The video downgrade I get, but no surround sound? That seems ridiculous to me. I just don't see the benefit of getting this over a PS4 or XB1, especially when you're paying $130 to be an early adopter. Chromecasts are OK, but the one I currently use is spotty, and I actually prefer Firesticks. Xbox offers GamePass and Sony offers Playstation Now which both seem to be better value propositions, and I have the option to play offline as well.

Now, we're also ignoring the fact that some people have data caps, and what is 1080P (or 4K) gaming going to do to those caps?

This is all ignoring the fact that Google has zero corporate vision, and will cancel this within 3 years, and then where will all those games you spent money on be?
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Old 06-07-19, 11:01 AM
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Eh, my internet is entirely too slow for streaming games. I'm on a 6Mb down, 512Kb up connection.

Also to swap to a faster connection means having a 100GB a month datacap, which would be hit in like one day of gaming if you're literally having to stream a 60GB game to play it.

My connection is also spotty at best, with tons of latency and hiccups. Ping is typically over 60ms.

I doubt cloud gaming is even a possibility for me.
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Old 06-07-19, 11:15 AM
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Yup, I forgot to mention the issues with latency. Google can say they have figured it out all they want, but any game requiring fast twitch response times will probably be borderline unplayable.
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Old 06-07-19, 12:28 PM
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I have zero interest in this, and I don't even understand the target market? You need to pay $10 a month just in order to buy games, and if you don't have an internet connection you have zero access to those games. I guess this is for people who own a 4K TV, but don't want to buy a PS Pro or an Xbox One X?

If I wait for the non-subscription version, I still have to pay full price for games, but now I don't get surround sound, and I'm limited to 1080P. The video downgrade I get, but no surround sound? That seems ridiculous to me. I just don't see the benefit of getting this over a PS4 or XB1, especially when you're paying $130 to be an early adopter. Chromecasts are OK, but the one I currently use is spotty, and I actually prefer Firesticks. Xbox offers GamePass and Sony offers Playstation Now which both seem to be better value propositions, and I have the option to play offline as well.

Now, we're also ignoring the fact that some people have data caps, and what is 1080P (or 4K) gaming going to do to those caps?

This is all ignoring the fact that Google has zero corporate vision, and will cancel this within 3 years, and then where will all those games you spent money on be?
It's $10/month for Stadia Pro which is the game streaming library service (ie: Playstation Now and Xbox Gamepass). It costs nothing if you purchase the games outright.

At 10mbps (720p @ 60 fps), that'd be about 4.5gb/hour for gaming, which is about double what an hour of streaming Netflix at 1080p is. Caps suck, not sure if the industry will shift on that. Latency is what I'm curious about. It will probably be available on Firesticks as well in the not too distant future. I'm more interested in using it in Chrome windows on laptops.

It will be interesting if Google ends up launching a Play Store for PC that lets you download your digital copy like Steam as well as play them on the platform. I'm cool with the idea of being able to jump into a game of something I own while traveling, though it didn't work so great on some earlier streaming platforms.

Curious to see how it works out, not sure how it will ever be the least bit profitable for them.

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Old 06-07-19, 01:32 PM
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It's $10/month for Stadia Pro which is the game streaming library service (ie: Playstation Now and Xbox Gamepass). It costs nothing if you purchase the games outright.

At 10mbps (720p @ 60 fps), that'd be about 4.5gb/hour for gaming, which is about double what an hour of streaming Netflix at 1080p is. Caps suck, not sure if the industry will shift on that. Latency is what I'm curious about. It will probably be available on Firesticks as well in the not too distant future. I'm more interested in using it in Chrome windows on laptops.

It will be interesting if Google ends up launching a Play Store for PC that lets you download your digital copy like Steam as well as play them on the platform. I'm cool with the idea of being able to jump into a game of something I own while traveling, though it didn't work so great on some earlier streaming platforms.

Curious to see how it works out, not sure how it will ever be the least bit profitable for them.
I don't know where you're getting this. From everything I can see, you need to be subscribed to the Pro Service in order to stream in 4K and in 5.1 surround, even with purchased titles.
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Old 06-07-19, 01:44 PM
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I don't know where you're getting this. From everything I can see, you need to be subscribed to the Pro Service in order to stream in 4K and in 5.1 surround, even with purchased titles.
Didn't see the specification for 4k there my bad. I don't have a 4K projector yet so that isn't really a huge selling point for me at this point. No monthly subscription for up to 1080p, the only shitty part is them being limited to stereo.
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Old 06-07-19, 04:55 PM
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I'm a sucker, I went ahead and pre-ordered it. It's going to be my Father's Day/Birthday present. If it goes under, I'm only out $138 bucks. I have pissed away more money on lesser things, so hopefully, it's successful.
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You aren't even out $138, either. You'll still have a Chromecast Ultra, which has value, even if the system goes belly up.
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Old 06-10-19, 11:13 AM
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I wound up buying a Chromecast Ultra for my Oculus Quest Casting function, so I guess I'm half way to Stadia land already.
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