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LorenzoL 12-27-18 08:11 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 13469108)
I got Super Smash Bros and I’m so lost. I’m not good at fighting games in general but is there a trick to winning?

I really don’t get this game either. My daughter absolutely loves it and she has tried teaching me to time my jumps so I don’t fall off and die. I’m not getting it. She’s has been going and unlocking the characters through single player missions.

lopper 12-27-18 09:09 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I think I'd played a grand total of 20 min of Smash on GameCube, and promptly turned it off and returned it to EB Games. I bought this new one against my better judgement, mostly due to FOMO, I guess, and with very low expectations.

I love it.

I watched and read quite a few tutorials online to wrap my head around the basics before starting. I began with Mario, since word is he's the best all around character. Once I understood most of the main concepts, I started messing around in Training with the other characters.

I only have maybe 20 characters unlocked at this point. I'm mainly using Samus and Simon now.

It is still overwhelming quite a lot of the times. I went ahead and turned items off in my matches because, coupled with the some of the more dynamic stages, they add just too much chaos.

I'd say do some research, watch some YouTube tutorials, and don't hesitate to modify match conditions to fit your expertise.

Mike86 12-27-18 09:13 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I’m not that great at it either necessarily. Basically the movesets are at least pretty easy to get down (although I haven’t done many Final Smashes yet) and don’t require you to learn any crazy button combinations which I like. I think a lot of it is choosing the proper fighter for battles and just finding who you’re good with (I like Kirby quite a bit).

fujishig 12-27-18 11:04 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
In a weird way, Youtube is essential because the game teaches you nothing, and even that nothing is hidden behind endless menus. Like if you go to the help pages, because you can map buttons it won't even tell you what button to press, it'll say something like "to jump, press the jump button." To a newbie, which one is the jump button?

It's easy enough to pick up and play and mash buttons against a human opponent of the same caliber, but even the adventure mode will have you searching up youtube real quick.

fujishig 12-27-18 11:18 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
So I finally subscribed to Nintendo Online since my kids opened Smash. Wow it's terrible. Like how do you get friends in a room without having some other device to communicate with them to tell them the room is open? You have a friend list, you can see if they're online, but you can't talk to them or play with them in any meaningful way unless you call them up.

But hey, NES games that I'll never play, cool!

nickdawgy 12-28-18 05:15 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
For $20 a year you can’t go wrong.

Decker 12-28-18 08:30 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 13469659)
For $20 a year you can’t go wrong.

I did. Spent $20 on the service for a year, then found out my kids couldn't use it as well. Had to spend $35 on a Family plan and totally wasted that $20 purchase because stupidly they won't let you upgrade or extend your service with money already spent on an individual plan. :mad2:

SunMonkey 12-28-18 08:42 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I probably know the answer to this because it’s Nintendo, but for Smash, there is no way to play local multiplayer and access two profiles stored on the same Switch, right?

dsa_shea 12-28-18 09:06 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Other than the "free" games, Nintendo's online service is pretty much a wasted opportunity. Having to use your cell to chat with others is just plain stupid.

The Questyen 12-28-18 09:10 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
The free games is literally the only reason I pay for PlayStation plus or Xbox live so doing it with Nintendo for cheaper doesn't bother me.

fujishig 12-28-18 09:16 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by SunMonkey (Post 13469724)
I probably know the answer to this because it’s Nintendo, but for Smash, there is no way to play local multiplayer and access two profiles stored on the same Switch, right?

I don't think so, at least I don't see a way to choose a profile. Even going online with two players, you're restricted to two vs. two and it doesn't make you choose a profile like Mario Kart.

for those of you saying that Nintendo online isn't a problem because hey, it's cheap; have you tried matchmaking with friends in Smash? Or does that just not interest you at all?

Decker 12-28-18 09:44 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by The Questyen (Post 13469745)
The free games is literally the only reason I pay for PlayStation plus or Xbox live so doing it with Nintendo for cheaper doesn't bother me.

It's not really the same thing though. Not new current Gen games every month but a streaming library of NES games.

DVDTalker76 12-28-18 03:40 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 13469659)
For $20 a year you can’t go wrong.

Yes, you can. Nintendo still not producing online services of any type of quality, in 2018, and now charging for them to boot - is not excusable. Not under any price tag.

fumanstan 12-28-18 09:40 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I paid it just for cloud saves.

Mike86 12-28-18 10:20 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I really don’t think the online service is that bad for $20 a year. Could be better, but it’s also still relatively new.

Adam Tyner 01-02-19 02:24 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
As a reminder, if you bought a physical copy of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, be sure to redeem the gold coins sometime in the next couple weeks. They'll email you a code within a few days to redeem the Piranha Plant DLC for free as soon as it's available. It's not a part of the Fighter Pass.

https://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/imag...46460646_1.jpg

mattysemo247 01-02-19 06:48 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Yep, already got the code for mine!

Decker 01-02-19 07:00 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Thanks for the heads up. I got the email sent on the 31st but could have easily missed it.

nickdawgy 01-03-19 04:49 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
So after playing Smash Bros more, I have decided a few things:

1. It’s super fun. The amount of nostalgia is amazing. It’s making me love my Switch again.
2. It’s the most frustrating game I ever played. I honestly almost threw my controller and I haven’t done that since I was 10.
3. The computer almost never fails to get back to the stage when knocked off, sometimes doing six or seven jumps to avoid defeat.
4. The computers smash gauge charges way faster than yours. Always.
5. You will fall off the stage. A lot. Often. Did I mention a lot?
6. I will never play online. Ever. No interest.
7. I will never be any good. I play and spam buttons and go the same attacks with hardly any shielding. I tried learning tips and after seeing that I have to spot dodge, tech, buffer, air dodge, wall cling, etc. I decided fuck it.
8. The game is fun.

mattysemo247 01-03-19 07:42 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I still don't know how they make it back on the stage. Anytime I fall off I can jump like once in the air and that's it. So I end up dying often that way.

fujishig 01-03-19 08:26 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 13473088)
I still don't know how they make it back on the stage. Anytime I fall off I can jump like once in the air and that's it. So I end up dying often that way.

If you use a character like Kirby, they can float back up. You can also jump once, and then you can use your up + b special move once (this is almost always the best move to try to get back up quickly), but if you're desperately flailing and hitting buttons when you get hit off some stages, you're probably dead, you kind of have to know what your moves do and keep in mind what direction you're falling.

I think someone mentioned earlier in here or the smash thread that they got some smash pros to tweak the UI, and it shows, the UI is much harder than previous games. Also on the higher levels the UI definitely "cheats" and it's more about tricking the UI than going toe to toe, but that's almost par for the course on fighting games.

pinata242 01-03-19 10:08 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
The User Interface cheats?

fujishig 01-03-19 10:19 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 13473174)
The User Interface cheats?

Misspoke there (and c'mon you know what I meant), but on a side note the user interface/menu system is terrible. I realize his wife designs it but geez it just gets worse and worse.

mattysemo247 01-05-19 10:19 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I'll be picking up the season pass if these remaining characters turn out to be true

https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/01/0...ortedly-leaked

Also, do we not have a Smash Bros thread?

Hailey G 01-05-19 12:23 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 13474454)

Also, do we not have a Smash Bros thread?

As best as I can tell, the only switch exclusive games that we have threads for are:

Super Mario Odyssey
Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
Metroid Prime 4
Ms. Splosion Man

The last two only have 1 or 2 posts in them.


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