PC Gaming Thread
12-18-24 | 07:12 PM
#1376
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
Sent. Enjoy!
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01-07-25 | 08:22 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
01-07-25 | 01:28 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
I don’t need and can’t afford a 5090…
I don’t need and can’t afford a 5090…
I don’t need and can’t afford a 5090…
I don’t need and can’t afford a 5090…
I don’t need and can’t afford a 5090…
01-07-25 | 01:34 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
No interest for me since I still don't use a 4K monitor. 3080 is still perfectly fine for ultra-wide 2k with the games I play.
Thankfully, too. Last thing I need is a $2k item I feel the need to buy at launch.
Thankfully, too. Last thing I need is a $2k item I feel the need to buy at launch.
01-07-25 | 01:49 PM
#1382
Re: PC Gaming Thread
The 5090 numbers are pretty misleading. Nvidia showed a video where the 4090 was getting 109 FPS and the 5090 was getting 242 FPS in Cyberpunk, but what they didn't mention was that the 5090 was using twice as many generated frames as the 4090. In terms of real frames being produced, it is obviously still a bit better than the 4090, but nowhere near what they're trying to make it look it.
01-10-25 | 10:44 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
The 5090 numbers are pretty misleading. Nvidia showed a video where the 4090 was getting 109 FPS and the 5090 was getting 242 FPS in Cyberpunk, but what they didn't mention was that the 5090 was using twice as many generated frames as the 4090. In terms of real frames being produced, it is obviously still a bit better than the 4090, but nowhere near what they're trying to make it look it.
4090: 21fps @ 4K w/ Ray Tracing
5090: 28fps @ 4K w/ Ray Tracing
The reality is that native 4K gaming is still far from the norm. Our best bets are generated frames or upscaled 1440p.
01-11-25 | 12:32 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
It's quite disappointing that everyone seems to be headed towards a push for more enhanced AI frame generation instead of, dare I say, optimizing games for native resolutions of 1440p or more ambitiously 4K. I get why it's extremely difficult, of course, but in my personal experience using a 4070 Ti Super (damn good card, but far enough from the raw performance of a 4090), I just don't like the way DLSS and other techs look. I can't describe it, but it's just not great to me.
More and more, it appears that the raw performance cap is being reached, so they're turning to frame gen to make up for it.
More and more, it appears that the raw performance cap is being reached, so they're turning to frame gen to make up for it.
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01-11-25 | 01:22 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
The reason AI upscale and frame gen look weird is because, despite all the hype, you can still tell (or at least strongly suspect) it's an upscale. It's like the rare native 4K movies versus the typical 2K master. Both can look very good, but there's usually something "off" with the latter, even if you can't say for sure until someone who know for sure points it out. Obviously, it's far more extreme when it comes to the fiddling with game graphics.
And I certainly agree, it would be best if there were a push for actual game optimization, rather than essentially brute force "fixes" like AI upscaling and frame gen.
And I certainly agree, it would be best if there were a push for actual game optimization, rather than essentially brute force "fixes" like AI upscaling and frame gen.
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Dan (01-11-25)
01-12-25 | 12:51 PM
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DVD Talk Hero
Re: PC Gaming Thread
I just want games well optomized and to go back to being a sane size. Why the hell is Call of Duty 400gb?
01-12-25 | 01:28 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
01-12-25 | 07:37 PM
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DVD Talk Hero
Re: PC Gaming Thread
Haha fair but yeah still obscene
01-13-25 | 06:25 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
The 5090 numbers are pretty misleading. Nvidia showed a video where the 4090 was getting 109 FPS and the 5090 was getting 242 FPS in Cyberpunk, but what they didn't mention was that the 5090 was using twice as many generated frames as the 4090. In terms of real frames being produced, it is obviously still a bit better than the 4090, but nowhere near what they're trying to make it look it.
01-15-25 | 04:43 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
So we might actually be getting a Steam Machine 2.0? I sure hope so.
01-15-25 | 12:47 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
I've been using my Steam Deck in a dock lately 
Their OS is ridiculously impressive, now if only some companies would ditch the shitty anti-cheat that breaks it.
Their OS is ridiculously impressive, now if only some companies would ditch the shitty anti-cheat that breaks it.
01-31-25 | 09:44 AM
#1392
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
The 5090 numbers are pretty misleading. Nvidia showed a video where the 4090 was getting 109 FPS and the 5090 was getting 242 FPS in Cyberpunk, but what they didn't mention was that the 5090 was using twice as many generated frames as the 4090. In terms of real frames being produced, it is obviously still a bit better than the 4090, but nowhere near what they're trying to make it look it.
After watching a few videos and seems to be almost evenly split coming down to "Native is dead, Long Live Fake" to 'Say No to Fake, Long Live Native"....I would fall into the Native is Better catagory myself. I founf this guy who basically summed it up in simple terms as to the "Marketing Scam" which many are calling it. but seems a lot of gamers are embracing it. Why pay that much for something that gives you one REAL Frame to Four FAKE Frames is beyond me...
01-31-25 | 10:40 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
For single player games, I'm completely in favor of frame generation, it works fine from what I've experienced.
For competitive or online FPS games, it would 100% need to be disabled though.
For competitive or online FPS games, it would 100% need to be disabled though.
02-02-25 | 12:15 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
Since I really haven't kept up with the latest on Video Cards and it seems like all the tave and talk is around the new Nvidia 50 Series....where does the AMD Cards stand?
02-02-25 | 03:08 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
The general consensus is that the Radeon RX 9000 series won't be as powerful as Nvidia's 5000 series.
And per Digital Trends:
TL;DR: AMD plans to release a new flagship Radeon GPU in 2026, succeeding the RDNA 3's Radeon RX 7900 XTX with a new flagship. With RDNA 4 launching in 2025, AMD will focus on mid-range GPUs, competing with NVIDIA's RTX 5070 series. The new UDNA architecture aims to unify data center and gaming GPUs, potentially using TSMC's N3E process for improved efficiency. However, it may not surpass NVIDIA's RTX 5090 in performance.
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/10281...090/index.html
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/10281...090/index.html
AMD RDNA 4 Process node TSMC N4P
Architecture RDNA 4
Chip Navi 48, Navi 44
Memory type GDDR6
Maximum bus width 256-bit
Maximum clock speed 3GHz-3.3GHz
AMD RDNA 4 Process node TSMC N4P
Architecture RDNA 4
Chip Navi 48, Navi 44
Memory type GDDR6
Maximum bus width 256-bit
Maximum clock speed 3GHz-3.3GHz
It became clear very early on that AMD may not be trying to compete against the best of Nvidia’s RTX 50-series this time around. Various hardware leakers have been saying for well over a year that even AMD’s flagship may only rival the likes of Nvidia’s upcoming RTX 5070, and this is reflected in the rumored specs for each card. AMD itself has also confirmed that it’s not aiming for the high-end.
AMD’s senior vice president, Jack Huynh, spoke to Tom’s Hardware, pretty much confirming what leakers have been saying: AMD’s plan for the RX 9000 series is to focus on the mainstream PC gaming market. Huynh said: “Do I want to go after 10% of the total addressable market (TAM) or 80%? I’m an 80% kind of guy because I don’t want AMD to be the company that only people who can afford Porsches and Ferraris can buy. We want to build gaming systems for millions of users.”
This mindset implies that Nvidia’s two most high-end cards, the RTX 5080 and the RTX 5090, will not see any direct competition in this generation.
AMD’s senior vice president, Jack Huynh, spoke to Tom’s Hardware, pretty much confirming what leakers have been saying: AMD’s plan for the RX 9000 series is to focus on the mainstream PC gaming market. Huynh said: “Do I want to go after 10% of the total addressable market (TAM) or 80%? I’m an 80% kind of guy because I don’t want AMD to be the company that only people who can afford Porsches and Ferraris can buy. We want to build gaming systems for millions of users.”
This mindset implies that Nvidia’s two most high-end cards, the RTX 5080 and the RTX 5090, will not see any direct competition in this generation.
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02-06-25 | 06:00 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
I've found myself checking PC Build Sites...CLX, Cyberpower, IBuypower, Skytech and some others....is there a reason why like 80-85% of the PCs have Intel vs AMD CPU's. And seeing or finding one with a AMD GPU is almost impossible unless you do a custom. Almost all offer a 4070 to 4060 versions.
02-06-25 | 07:18 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
Intel chips are less desirable. I assume they're able to buy them in bulk for much cheaper. Makes the overall build seem like a better value.
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02-07-25 | 10:32 AM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
I switched from Intel to AMD last year for the first time ever. Doubt I'll go back unless there's a pressing need.
02-13-25 | 04:51 PM
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Re: PC Gaming Thread
This guy is usually fixated on mini PCs, so I was interested in checking out this full size build from him.
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AMD Ryzen 9800X3d: https://howl.link/7udx4oz96hwn4
Asrock 870e Nova Motherboard: https://howl.link/fi4bdvwow42kp
32GB Viper 7000 DDR5: https://howl.link/bzrj1vsbwxziw
2TB Hynix P41 M.2 SSD: https://howl.link/hyz86ai349nnx
850W PSU: https://howl.link/p3dne87k1gc6s
AIO Cooler: https://howl.link/dxhj8ehctplv8
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