Originally Posted by Liver&Onions

Glad to see the console war is still raging in thread. Seriously guys - just stfu and enjoy your systems. Stop using future work to justify your purchase and just be happy that we get new consoles, no matter what your fucked up allegiance is. Games on either system are going to look amazing. Games on either system are going to be fun. Just knock it off and be happy. Or better yet, keep that kind of shit on neogaf.

I'm tired of coming in here to talk about games and the system but be overrun with "wahh, our games are going to be better because of blah blah blah." Unless you're working on these systems as a developer, you will literally have ZERO clue how it's going to work. Let the professionals handle the details, but don't sit there and regurgitate things you've read somewhere on the internet. Leave the doctoring to the doctors, leave the logistics to the logisticians, and leave the game development to the developers.

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions

Glad to see the console war is still raging in thread. Seriously guys - just stfu and enjoy your systems. Stop using future work to justify your purchase and just be happy that we get new consoles, no matter what your fucked up allegiance is. Games on either system are going to look amazing. Games on either system are going to be fun. Just knock it off and be happy. Or better yet, keep that kind of shit on neogaf.

I'm tired of coming in here to talk about games and the system but be overrun with "wahh, our games are going to be better because of blah blah blah." Unless you're working on these systems as a developer, you will literally have ZERO clue how it's going to work. Let the professionals handle the details, but don't sit there and regurgitate things you've read somewhere on the internet. Leave the doctoring to the doctors, leave the logistics to the logisticians, and leave the game development to the developers.

Originally Posted by RichC2

a swing and a miss. The conversation has been pretty relevant in a non-competitive way. Not sure where you got console war out of that.

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions

Glad to see the console war is still raging in thread. Seriously guys - just stfu and enjoy your systems. Stop using future work to justify your purchase and just be happy that we get new consoles, no matter what your fucked up allegiance is. Games on either system are going to look amazing. Games on either system are going to be fun. Just knock it off and be happy. Or better yet, keep that kind of shit on neogaf.

I'm tired of coming in here to talk about games and the system but be overrun with "wahh, our games are going to be better because of blah blah blah." Unless you're working on these systems as a developer, you will literally have ZERO clue how it's going to work. Let the professionals handle the details, but don't sit there and regurgitate things you've read somewhere on the internet. Leave the doctoring to the doctors, leave the logistics to the logisticians, and leave the game development to the developers.

Originally Posted by chess

First, there is no war here. Brent L asked for specifics on hardware differences, and I politely answered to his satisfaction and thanks. That prompted some entirely polite and relevant discussion until you showed up to curse at people in some kind of childish meltdown and accusing people of being console warriors. Pot? Kettle?

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions

Cool, childish meltdown. Thanks for the personal attack.

Originally Posted by chess

Can anybody rationally explain what that was about?

Originally Posted by chess

First, there is no war here. Brent L asked for specifics on hardware differences, and I politely answered to his satisfaction and thanks. That prompted some entirely polite and relevant discussion until you showed up to curse at people in some kind of childish meltdown and accusing people of being console warriors. Pot? Kettle?

Second, talking about the processing and rendering cababilities of a gaming system is no better or worse than talking about the multimedia features of a multimedia machine. XB1's camera has a tremendous competitive edge over the PS4's, but you don't see anybody throwing a temper tantrum and cursing at people every time somebody talks about how great Kinect is in the Xbox thread. Why is that?

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Over react much? Sheesh. Question was asked and chess answered in a non fanboy way. Then l&o comes in and tells everyone to stfu. lol nice.

Originally Posted by Music

Too busy playing my games

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions

It's the ongoing subtext that his/her posts carry. It's cool though - he's on ignore now. Carry on.

Originally Posted by XavierMike

Does anyone know a release date for Secret Ponchoes or The Witness? Those look awesome.

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Ignored or not, that's you inserting your preconceived notions into a post that really had no subtext.

Also declaring that you are adding someone to your ignore list is no better than threadcrapping. It's one last 'fuck you' and adds nothing to the thread.

Originally Posted by cruzness

I was about to point this out. Consoles have been the lead platform for the majority of games for the past few years. That will not change. The difference now will be that PC versions should be easier to get finished because of the similarity to the new gen consoles. Should lead to less delays on the PC release dates.


Lead platform was the 360 on most multiplatform games because of the fact that it was easier to program for. Sony screwed up by making the ps3 so complicated. On this new gen I wouldn't be surprised to see the PS4 become the lead platform since it is the easier console to program for. The One's esram makes things slightly more complicated to work with.

Originally Posted by flashburn

This generation is going to be a bit different, for two reasons. One is that it's the first time consoles have been so similar to their PC counterparts. Second, it's the first time where both systems are so similar to each other (architecturally speaking at least). The first part is going to probably cause two things to happen, one is that PC might become the lead development platform for most multiplatform games. The second is that it allows the tweaking of settings (we've seen some of this already with different resolutions) like AA, AF, texture quality, etc, can easily be tweaked to get more out of a more powerful system, or even just a better frame rate.

/fanboy rant off

Originally Posted by lopper

Is anyone using their Music Unlimited trial?

I tried it out and it's a pretty big let down, not that I was expecting much. Even if the sound quality were approaching decent, which it isn't, the music always seems to stop playing maybe one or two songs after I start the application.