Isn't there a way you can just cover the Kinect camera lens on the big brother box with electrical tape?

The fact that a person needs to even consider doing this so that corporations can't spy on them is disturbing in and of itself...

Exactly the kind of reply I was looking for. So many questions I would like to ask these nimrod corporations as well. People aren't paranoid....they just don't want corporations snooping on them - no matter or how big or little.

Well, maybe SOME people aren't paranoid, but SOME are!

I think people should be more paranoid about stuff like this than worrying that the government is going to take away your right to be arms.

Good news, you don't have to worry about servers to play your games on the Xbox 360!

Here's a response to this issue that I saw on another videogame forum, quoted directly:
So that's where we are now. The amount of contorting and twisting that I've seen from people who support MS/Xbox in the past 24 hours has been utterly sickening.

The amount of complaining and console bashing I have seen from people who do not support MS/Xbox have been equally sickening.

Are you trying to call out someone with 235k gamerscore as someone who doesn't support MS/Xbox?

He apparently did that himself...

Y'all just need to shut up and fuck off until June 10th :P

Or November 10th and buy/play the damn thing or don't

Dude, it's for watching TV not playing games, duh. If you want to play games get a PS4.

Agreed, there have been some eye-rolling statements on both sides of the issue. It's just that one side seems to have a lot more valid points and gripes this time around.

Also, as pointed out above I've pretty clearly supported them through nearly all of this console generation, and I was even trying to defend them and advocate a "wait and see" attitude up until yesterday in this very thread. Well, I waited and now I have seen. No more defending from me.

Even though I feel like i've been on the defense of Microsoft side, I think all the complaints and gripes have been legitimate and understand why people are upset, and they have a right to be. Although at this point we're just saying the same things ever since the rumors started.

I feel like i've fallen on the position that chuck has though; in the end, most of these things don't affect me so they don't really bother me. I only buy the big titles anyway, i'm always connected online, and I like to buy my games new and rarely resell them. I'd be happy enough with a digital trade in to Amazon if it's there. I've been used to PC games for so long, that most of these issues don't bother me. That said, whatever Naughty Dog does alone might have me sold on a PS4.

I guess people are not ready for next gen gaming since it's basically going to be how PC gaming has been for years. Both XBOX and PS4 will be nearly identical in the way they handle games this time around, and it's the same as a PC with the exception of being able to trade in games. Once this is the norm and gaming as we currently know it is gone, I think people will calm down a bit. It's just time to move on and people can't get over it yet apparently.

The Kinect is the least of my worries. For one, haven't they basically said you can turn everything off? If not, just throw a pillow on top of it. I'm not paranoid enough to think anyone gives a shit about what I'm doing in my living room, but this is not tough technology to "beat".

All the drawbacks of PC gaming but none of the benefits. Can't wait!

I guess I just don't see these "drawbacks" people are speaking of. I must be crazy thinking that all the info the revealed yesterday actually answered some questions and debunked all of the rumors. Oh well, at least it made sense to me and now I can buy it knowing full well that I will enjoy it...don't really care what other people decide

How do you figure?

It answered questions, but it actually confirmed a lot of the rumors. Can you really not see why people might not like what MS is doing here?

There are some Red Flags around on the privicy side but two that stand out for me...

The fact every Xbox One will have Kinect installed whether you want it or not and...

...it has to be on when using the Xbox.

But now they're putting it out there the reason is being it has voice control for saying "Xbox On" feature and that's it...not meant to spy or record conversations...but it will track heart beat and eye movements to ads. Then why did these wizards of smarts not incorporate a seperate mic for voice only and have it with the camera?

....and not to mention the "once every 24hr connection".

Is there no power button on the console? Can we not power on the console with the controller? The company line about needing it for Kinect's "Xbox on" is horseshit.

I so hate just about everything I've read so far about the One. It's way too invasive and restrictive. I never go to a friend's house to play games there (that's what the Internet connection used to be for), so the one bit of "good news" doesn't mean a damn thing to me. I love to rent games, so that seems to be out the window at least for the One. I've sold plenty of games I didn't like or was done with and that seems over now as well. I've always hated the Kinect and don't want that ugly thing on top of my HDTV (and it would require an expensive professional install to even get it hooked up since my TV is mounted about 15 feet away from my component closet).
I've really loved my 360 (especially the Slim -- my first one sounded like a 747), but I can't really see myself getting a One if Sony comes out with a less restrictive PS4 policy.

Yes, most PC games have similar restrictions, but 1) I get all my PC games excluding Blizzard for at least 50% off and usually pretty quickly after release and 2) I don't have to buy a new PC to play new games and my current PC plays older games.

I'm so disappointed by all this news. I pray things are better in the Sony camp; they'd have to be, right?