I was going to attempt to type something well planned out in response, but decided I do not care. Enjoy only playing games and never once doing something different on your consoles

Yeah, because you can't watch Netflix, chat or play online on a PS4. You're so insightful.

You act like that is the only thing we can do with our console. Many of the touted apps exist on both consoles. We may not be able to Skype but there is already a video chat function on the PS3 that my wife and I have been using for years to talk with my in-laws in Guatemala. I will admit that the system has some cool features and it is nice to be able to easily switch back and forth BUT when I want to play games then that is what I want to be doing rather than switching between a bunch of apps. I'm still somewhat interested in an Xbox if it can prove that it can work out some of the kinks with the data being bottlenecked because of all of the other features.

Does VUDU stream your entire UV collection? I usually stream from Cinema Now and that's not available on either console, per that graphic.

as far as I know, as long as you have a registered UV license, Vudu should stream it.

now i can give shit to Microsoft where it's due. You can't do ANYTHING on the Xbox One until you download the day one patch.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...12e5d012000016

They said as much when they announced the DRM reversals. You have to download a patch at launch to reverse everything.

Yeah, that's old news.

no, they didn't say everything wouldn't work. they just said the patch would do what you are saying. you can't even watch a fucking movie or play a single player game offline. that's absurd.

Old news, they said back in the 180 days that it would need the day one patch to do anything.

The console was built to connect to the internet. The software to undo that has to be downloaded and installed. They said to undo everything, you have to download the patch. This isn't new, I promise you.

Similar to the PS4.. both absurd... day one patches for console :headshake:

Wrong, they said it HAD to have the day one patch to do anything. They made it clear that the day one patch was 100% necessary, that it wouldn't take long to download and that after that patch you never had to connect your Xbox to the internet.

My recollection is that the patch was originally to allow for offline gaming. I don't recall them saying nothing else would work.

PS4 still plays games out of the box without a patch though, right? Their patch is for apps, IIRC.

I think that's correct.. but you can't watch a movie on the PS4 without the patch... So you can play games offline without the patch, but no movie watching. Blu-ray or dvd.

Correct. A PS4 never connected to the internet can still play games.

Why you gotta hate on people with ADD?

exactly. it had nothing to do with the other aspects of the machine. it was solely to change their previous plans to the new ones regarding games.

I have nothing against them at all. However, I do think video gaming systems and cell phones are creating more and more people that suffer from ADD. It is almost to the point where people have to be stimulated (not sexually) at almost all times when they are not sleeping.

Microsoft CEO search playing out like a soap opera in media
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/microsoft-ceo-search/

Xbox One's new dashboard - nine things you need to know
http://www.oxm.co.uk/65689/features/...-need-to-know/

1. Your personal screen is ad-free
Once Kinect recognises you, it'll log you in and show you your personal screen. This screen is dominated by the "big ass tile", which contains what you were last doing. A friend feed runs down the left, like a media-obsessed Facebook. To the left are your pins - and you can pin apps, games, or deep-linked content within an app. To the right, are the stores. From what we saw, this is an ad-free zone - which seems odd, considering the opportunity for personalised ads.

If you've just come from watching live TV, it'll continue to run in the "big ass tile". God, I hope the phrase "big ass tile" doesn't ever catch on to the point where I'm comfortable dropping the speech marks.

2. "Xbox shows my stuff"
If someone else in the room has got their personalised dashboard up, and you've got something tucked away in your personal pins you want to show off, says "XBOX SHOW MY STUFF" to claim the dashboard.

3. Tongue-tied? Don't worry
You don't have to issue an entire, complete command. Say Xbox, and you'll be given a palette of possible, relevant commands. Say Xbox Snap, and you'll be presented with all the Snap-friendly apps. IE is snappable, although you'd need some pretty responsive web design to work in such a narrow column.

4. Apps can see what you're doing
It's easy to forget your friends can see your activity, frequently with some bonus information - leading to messages from friends telling you to "play Halo 3 on Legendary as God intended FFS". Now apps can use that information, too - Machinima will use it to provide you with info not just relevant to the game, but to the level you're on.

5. One Guide to rule them all
The Xbox One's new Guide - not to be confused with the Xbox 360's pop-up menu - is a bespoke channel for TV and apps, and won't be fully functional in the UK at launch - it'll kick off properly in early 2014. Here, you can browse your pinned channels, along with feeds from your installed apps. So Channel 4's live schedule can appear right next to "recently released on LOVEFiLM".

6. Skype hunts you down
While the new Kinect isn't motorised, it's mobile in its own way - during Skype conversations, if you move around the room, it'll pan and zoom to keep you in the centre. If there are more people, it'll try to keep everyone involved. So you don't have to sit on your hands.

7. Do Not Disturb feature to follow?
One of the worst things about watching a DVD on Xbox is the stream of notifications from friends logging in - and that's only going to get worse, with 1000 friends. We asked if there'd be a way to say "Xbox - Don't Show Notifications Until The Doctor Who Special Has Finished", and the vague response implied that it would be accessible via menu settings. Microsoft, hear our request: Introduce this command: Xbox, Do Not Disturb.

8. You can snap TV to games
Really. You can watch TV in a narrow sidebar while you're playing a game. That's a feature now. Our initial response was "who the hell would want to.." until we realised that we already play games on our tablets while the telly's on. Maybe we're evolving. Maybe soon we'll be wearing omnigoggles and getting ten distinct kinds of stimulation speared directly into our brain.

9. You can control the TV with your voice
Kinect features an IR blaster, and a range of voice commands are tailored to your TV. We saw Xbox Mute, Xbox Volume Up and Down in action. Jumping to channels wasn't demonstrated. We suspect this won't be available until Xbox sorts out its partnerships with UK TV providers, and gets the Guide up and running.

“We appreciate Bloomberg’s foray into fiction and look forward to future episodes,” said Microsoft’s Frank Shaw, as quoted in the story.

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That is an awesome quote.

Once in awhile, MS brings the (intentional) funny.