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Old 06-20-13 | 04:56 PM
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I've noticed that wherever Microsoft was vague, wishful thinking took over. Several pages ago, there was baseless speculation that MS would offer digital downloads of new games at $40 -- and then that was treated as a factual strike against PS4.
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lol, you could only share it with 1 person at a time you crazy ass people! Of course 10 people at once is insane.
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Old 06-20-13 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I've noticed that wherever Microsoft was vague, wishful thinking took over. Several pages ago, there was baseless speculation that MS would offer digital downloads of new games at $40 -- and then that was treated as a factual strike against PS4.
Couldn't agree more. Understandably, people are hating the idea of abandoning a console brand they've been with for the last 10 years and are holding out hope things aren't as bad as they sound.


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I get the gist of that and maybe the Xbox One would've made a good test case for these new ideas, but the author takes a few liberties like, as Groucho stated above, assuming that a price decrease would naturally follow an all-digital library when we don't know that to necessarily be the case. Along the same lines, I still think the Family Plan was nothing like how he's envisioning.

MS may have knew it was in trouble with the family plan, because all that would've come of it is more failed promises. They knew there was no economically sound way to deliver the family plan the way it was being billed as. Hell, that plan would've boded worse for publishers than used games do now.
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Sigh, no but it makes me sad again. Thanks a lot stupid internet people for ruining a great console
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I honestly wish X1 had stayed the course. I wanted to see how all of this was going to shake out in the end. I had already made up my mind to get a PS4 and their newest flip-flop has not changed my mind. I really wonder if it will for other xboxers like myself who had decided on the PS4?
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:04 PM
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The flip flop realistically did nothing and may have actually LOST customers.

-PS4 people still won't buy it
-Xbox owners who switched to PS4 still won't buy it at launch, but MAYBE later.
-People excited for the original X1 may now be less interested and switch to PS4 or get nothing.

They pretty much double screwed up now.
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Sigh, no but it makes me sad again. Thanks a lot stupid internet people for ruining a great console
I'm thanking the internet for actually making the Xbox One a viable console. As it stood it was a bit of a clusterfuck.

I still come back to the "always connected" issue. Why would ANYONE want to make a mass market device that became completely inoperable if you couldn't get on the internet is beyond me. Especially since the only reason they did it was to make sure you weren't stealing.

They were alienating their audience from the get-go. Thank god they wised up and made a decision that could allow even more people to buy and enjoy their new system.
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by discostu1337
Sigh, no but it makes me sad again. Thanks a lot stupid internet people for ruining a great console
The console will still play the games they intended to sell you before the announcement so the console is not ruined. Why must we make video gaming so damn difficult?
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The console will still play the games they intended to sell you before the announcement so the console is not ruined. Why must we make video gaming so damn difficult?
I'm still waiting for all these highly touted features that would only exist with the draconian policies.

What are they discostu, if you don't mind my asking?
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I still come back to the "always connected" issue. Why would ANYONE want to make a mass market device that became completely inoperable if you couldn't get on the internet is beyond me. Especially since the only reason they did it was to make sure you weren't stealing.

They were alienating their audience from the get-go. Thank god they wised up and made a decision that could allow even more people to buy and enjoy their new system.
The "Daily Online" requirement was really an untenable requirement while there are still active combat military troops overseas. They could spin it all they liked, but really there was no way to look good when our own US Armed forces couldn't play on the new console.
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I'm thanking the internet for actually making the Xbox One a viable console. As it stood it was a bit of a clusterfuck.
That Kotaku article totally counters that, though!!!!!!!!!

This would eliminate current-gen problems like buying a disc, and then being unable to store it or download it from the cloud.
The absolute worst thing about this generation is when I look longingly at my library of games and sigh, "gee, I wish I could store or download this from the cloud instead of walking 8 feet an' opening a case." I also tend to think that if this online-and-DRMed approach would dramatically lower prices anytime in the near future, Microsoft would've touted that as a selling point. Arguing in favor of possibilities predicated on possibilities based on other possibilities seems kinda silly.

I bet that the impetus behind the reversal ultimately wasn't "Internet people complaining" but catastrophically low pre-order numbers and a high number of cancellations.

(I do still have my Day One console on preorder, lest anyone think I'm BIASED or anything.)
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Originally Posted by Draven
I'm thanking the internet for actually making the Xbox One a viable console. As it stood it was a bit of a clusterfuck.

I still come back to the "always connected" issue. Why would ANYONE want to make a mass market device that became completely inoperable if you couldn't get on the internet is beyond me. Especially since the only reason they did it was to make sure you weren't stealing.

They were alienating their audience from the get-go. Thank god they wised up and made a decision that could allow even more people to buy and enjoy their new system.
This. They woke up and pulled their heads out of the sand realizing the early adopters are the ones that will buy the most games from you!
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:29 PM
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I'm still waiting for all these highly touted features that would only exist with the draconian policies.

What are they discostu, if you don't mind my asking?
I swear to god if I see the word "draconian" one more time in reference to DRM I'm going to light a child on fire. That is all.
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:32 PM
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The only upside to disc based gaming is the fact that we won't have to download all of these gigantic games next generation. Killzone on PS4 is already over 100gb, that's fucking insane. Granted, MS always was allowing both digital and disc in the first place, but full digital in this world without google fiber is not feasible.

I was never hoping MS would go full digital, unless they had significant price drops. My plan was to always go buy the disc and install off of that. I loved the fact that once it was installed off the disc, it acted just like a digital copy, but now that is gone.
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:32 PM
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Thanks a lot stupid internet people for ruining a great console
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:38 PM
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If there were really going to be price drops on games, MS should have stuck to their guns, because if the same game is cheaper on the Xbone than on the PS4, that's a gigantic selling point.

Oh wait, they never even claimed that, it's all more wishful thinking. Never mind.

I echo what someone posted pages and pages back; it would have been so much better if MS just did what they did, and then the family plan restrictions and whatever else would come to light. Would game publishers flock to Microsoft because they're so much more publisher friendly? Would they lower their prices and would we then have this glorious age of all digital content shared with our family? Now we'll just hear about "what could have been." Ugh.

And when someone speculates that MS threw the family plan restriction rumors out there because they didn't want people to be disappointed at the changes... well, there's no point of return.
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:41 PM
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I swear to god if I see the word "draconian" one more time in reference to DRM I'm going to light a child on fire. That is all.
DRM is Draconian!
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DRM is Draconian!
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Old 06-20-13 | 05:50 PM
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haha that's awesome
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Originally Posted by Shagrath
I think when people think of a Steam like experience, they think about getting games on sale daily and sales with 50-90% off regularly. I don't think the hassle of swapping discs is a big deal.
If anyone honestly thought the X1 was going to usher in Steam like sales, then well

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I swear to god if I see the word "draconian" one more time in reference to DRM I'm going to light a child on fire. That is all.
As long as it's not my kid, I'm good with this.

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I honestly wish X1 had stayed the course. I wanted to see how all of this was going to shake out in the end. I had already made up my mind to get a PS4 and their newest flip-flop has not changed my mind. I really wonder if it will for other xboxers like myself who had decided on the PS4?
My 3 biggest problems with X1
1) Draconian DRM
2) Forced Kinect
3) Price

I'm still down with the PS4. I'll grab the Halo edition of the X1 next year or at the price drop. With MS caving on the DRM, that's two thirds of my issues taken care of. I'll just treat MS like I treat Nintendo from this point on. The X1 will be my Halo(and MS exclusive) machine while Sony gets all my business for all third party games and everything else. PS4 will be my main console moving forward.

I'm with Supermallet, it would have been much more entertaining this fall if MS stayed the course and we got to see all this play out.
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Old 06-20-13 | 08:01 PM
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I guess I am the only one that likes kinnect. I love the voice commands.
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Old 06-20-13 | 09:11 PM
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When we keep hearing Discostu post about how MS needs to change things in order to save the industry, I had to google how much they made last year and

Xbox 360 Has Generated $56 Billion In Retail Alone


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Old 06-20-13 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
I honestly wish X1 had stayed the course. I wanted to see how all of this was going to shake out in the end. I had already made up my mind to get a PS4 and their newest flip-flop has not changed my mind. I really wonder if it will for other xboxers like myself who had decided on the PS4?

Nope...been with MS & XBox since 2002....and frankly I havn't a clue where MS stands and what the XO is....for all I know both will change tomorrow, next week, next month...who the heck knows. First they threw gamers under the bus at E3 and now they've thrown DEVs and Publishers under the bus with their Flip-Flopping.


It's PS4 for me and I'll keep playing the 360
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Old 06-20-13 | 09:22 PM
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When we keep hearing Discostu post about how MS needs to change things in order to save the industry, I had to google how much they made last year and

Xbox 360 Has Generated $56 Billion In Retail Alone



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