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increased glimmer from crucible kills

legendary marks (shared between guardians like glimmer) replacing vanguard and crucible marks .... no weekly limits to marks but limited to holding 200 at once

existing marks converted to commendations and can turn in to legendary marks like converting commendations to faction rep at HoW launch

I believe that is how I read it

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Really excellent improvements here. Sept 15 can't come soon enough!

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I dislike the marks being shared between accounts. Give us a max of 600 if it's shared!

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everytime you find an exotic weapon the blueprint is added
can buy back a lost exotic for 1 shard (2,500 glimmer)
all exotic blueprints are account based (not character based)
some year 1 exotics upgraded for year 2
if you have a year 1 exotic and it has been upgraded to year 2, you get the year 2 blueprint
costs legendary marks to buy year 2 exotics
major exotic perks are intrinsic not unlocked ... ie. Ghorn wolfpack rounds would be unlocked from the get go before having to put in XP (have not confirmed Ghorn as a year 2 exotic option, just using as example)
you get new exotics at max power (like HoW)
year 1 max damage going from 365 to 160 with no decrease in efficiency

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OK, this is kind of bullshit.

So not all exotics are getting carried over to year two. Only certain ones get a Year 2 version. Seems like the others get left behind.

Year 2 Exotics require Level 40. But if you have the Year 1 version, you can get the Year 2 version...if it exists.

So Black SUROS is the Suros Year 2. You can choose focused fire or speeded up fire.

Cryptarch sells Legendary Engrams now.

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According to the menu they are in they aren't adding a year 2 Ghorn. Fuckers! They just trolled so many people. :lol:

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I do think he said, "not yet," indicating that perhaps more would be added.

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Don't the engrams cost 200 marks?

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Maybe, but can you imagine the uproar if the Gjallarhorn isn't on that list, especially now?

Infusion is taking a powerful Year 2 weapon, and breaking it down to make a less powerful weapon more powerful.

I don't know, I'm just not liking the sound of some of this stuff.

DOUBLE VAULT SPACE!!!!! 72 weapons! 72 Armor pieces! 36 Misc!

How did they do it? Tabs! Duh!

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vault space time

DOUBLED for weapons (72 slots)!!!
and more than double for armor

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Double vault space!!!

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Vault space, vault space, vault space

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and that's a wrap

I'll have to watch the recorded feed or rely on those who did for feedback as it is tough to visualize some of the more extreme changes via a chat feed

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I gotta say, this was lighter on detail than I expected. And a lot of what they did reveal is not exactly good.

The preview said they would talk about the Artifact Slot, but that didn't happen.

So, Exotics we know have a year 2 version:

Light Beyond Nemesis
Obsidian Mind
Voidfang Vestments

SUROS Regime
Bad Juju
Hawkmoon
Monte Carlo
The Last Word
The 4th Horseman
Thunderlord
Truth

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I believe you are missing Invective and Red Death from the Y2 weapons list

I don't think there is anyway to confirm that any of that info is final build info and not just a test/dev build but it is likely and I can see a weapon such as GHorn only reaching Y1 max and not having a Y2 version

I guess not one has mentioned the sword as a stock weapon

and I agree, seems like from what I was reading they tried to consolidate everything neatly into an hour long package but there are way too many details left for just speculation and rumor

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Red Death, yeah, Not sure about Invective.

But yeah, looks like they're leaving Gjallarhorn behind, which if true, could be the thing that sinks The Taken King.

Think about all the good will they built up with Xur selling it after all this time. Now when some people are just getting to try it, not only will it be nerfed, it'll be abandoned?

Who the hell does that to their fan base?

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abandoned? .... it will still be usable and if there are better weapons why will people care?

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You really think they'll make a better weapon than the GHorn? I don't.

Every indication is that they want to get rid of the best weapons in the game by either leaving them behind (Fatebringer, etc.), nerfing them all to hell (Black Hammer) or both (Gjallarhorn).

Hell, the Ice Breaker is also on the chopping block.

The main end game weapon is being cut from the new end game content. And it'll be replaced with something that does more damage, yes, but only because they're gimping the GHorn and not letting it go forward.

Think we'll see another hand cannon with Firefly?

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Another observation, the grind is going to be insane. So much to do, so much to redo. Sad thing is, all previous end game content is now worthless. There is absolutely ZERO point in running VoG or Crota ever again after TTK drops.

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Yep, because the odds are, they'd just drop the old exotics. Even the Vex and Necrochasm are not on the Year 2 list right now.

What really makes no sense is that the Necro and Hard Light have both been left behind, but are getting buffs in the weapon update. How does that make any sense whatsoever?

I thought the whole point of buffing these weapons was so people would use them.

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well we can all admit many Y1 weapons were overpowered against Y1 targets so yeah I believe they can make a weapon better than but maybe not as unbalanced as Ghorn

none of the PoE (Elder Cipher) weapons are getting Y2 upgrades, etheric light is all but worthless, and PoE armor will be as well .... it served its use for its short shelflife

I'll reserve judgement about the Y2 stuff until I hear more but haven't they already said that the most basic drops in TTK are already going to be better than most of your Y1 gear

won't people who pick up Destiny for the first time be using these weapons when they aquire them? won't these weapons and other buffed weapons be usable in (non level advantage) Crucible content?

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This right here makes no sense from a gaming standpoint. They are negating everything about the HoW expansion. It shows how HoW was basically a money grab for Bungie. I'm sure they had a pretty good idea what their plans were going to be for Y2 when they designed HoW.

Yes, I heard/read this as well. For existing level 34 players, whites and greens will be better than anything you have now from Y1 (better than existing exotics too??).

This, plus PvE until you get the new TTK gear. Again, for true noobs (starting at level 1) only. For us diehards/vets, bye bye VoG, Crota, and PoE. Unless you want to down Atheon/Crota with a level 40 weapon. Skolas! I'm pointing at you, you bag of dicks! ;)

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I'll hold off judgement until I get to sit down and watch the stream. So far I am kinda excited by the prospect of new weapons. VoG/IB/Crota gear/weapons were great and I loved getting new stuff during those events. HoW gear/weapons sucked. The best thing about HoW was the arenas themselves and the etheric light. ToO seemed like a good idea unitil cheaters/laggers scared everyone away and the hardcore PvPers were the only people left. I say bring on the new stuff. New vault space - Fuck Yeah!!!!!