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bippitty 03-16-14 06:20 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12045796)
Hell if we're going to the Zelda well yet again, blow everyone away and make Zelda the protagonist. That would get my attention.

It turns out that Zelda has been the villainous mastermind behind every plot that Link has foiled. Now she's decided to step to the forefront. The player, as Zelda, must reverse the good that Link has done and rid the world of him forever.

Michael Corvin 03-16-14 08:09 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12045970)
Either that, or give us a Zelda with the scope/detail of something like Skyrim.

Something like that would require years of development. You know, like all that time they spent sitting on billions not testing the HD waters during the Wii's life. Now they've backed themselves in a corner with a failing console and have to shit games out now to stay afloat.

Gizmo 03-16-14 08:35 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I'm sure 3DS sales will keep them afloat. Nintendo has plenty of money in the bank and not only that but merchandising etc. Nintendo just needs to expedite getting a new console out.

Michael Corvin 03-16-14 08:47 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
Yeah, rushing out another console will endear them to core buyers. :lol: Worked great for Sega.

Anyway, they barely have a grasp of HD as is(& no grasp of online), I'm not sure how a new console that they can't take advantage of would help.

Supermallet 03-16-14 08:48 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
If they released another console anytime soon, they'd be dead in the water. No one would have any faith in them to support their own products.

Gizmo 03-16-14 09:30 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12046445)
Yeah, rushing out another console will endear them to core buyers. :lol: Worked great for Sega.

Anyway, they barely have a grasp of HD as is(& no grasp of online), I'm not sure how a new console that they can't take advantage of would help.

Well the Wii U name isn't helping and it's not like they are going to rename it anytime soon.

HD looks just fine on the Wii U. Online leaves a lot (as always) to be desired. Curious how Mario Kart will work.

Gizmo 03-16-14 09:31 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12046448)
If they released another console anytime soon, they'd be dead in the water. No one would have any faith in them to support their own products.

Virtual Boy was DOA and gone after a year. :shrug:

Adam Tyner 03-16-14 09:56 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12046429)
Nintendo just needs to expedite getting a new console out.

Most of the reasons for the Wii U's poor performance owe more to Nintendo than the hardware itself. If they rush out another console and make the same mistakes again, it'll flop too. I'd like to see Nintendo ride out the Wii U, experiment with new ideas along the way, and have those concepts refined by the time the new console rolls around.

(FWIW, I really love the Wii U hardware, and its relative lack of power compared to the PS4 and Xbox One doesn't bother me even a little bit.)


Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12046511)
Virtual Boy was DOA and gone after a year. :shrug:

The Virtual Boy was a failed, adventurous experiment. The Wii U plays, or at least is supposed to play, to Nintendo's core competencies. Its financial failure is a different story.

mhg83 03-16-14 10:23 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I read on reddit Nintendo could lose 250 mil. a year every and still stay afloat till 2050. They'll be fine.

Adam Tyner 03-16-14 10:27 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by mhg83 (Post 12046586)
I read on reddit Nintendo could lose 250 mil. a year every and still stay afloat till 2050. They'll be fine.

No one's talking about Nintendo going out of business, though. I'm sure we all want Nintendo to succeed, not just limp along by squandering their bankroll. :)

Michael Corvin 03-16-14 10:42 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 12046551)
I'd like to see Nintendo ride out the Wii U, experiment with new ideas along the way, and have those concepts refined by the time the new console rolls around.

Agreed. The pressure is off to compete. Experiment and get online right before moving on.

Moopher 03-16-14 11:12 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I'm not going to lie, I haven't looked at my Wii U in a little while. I really want Mario Kart and Smash Bros. to come out ASAP so I can't neglect it any more.

XavierMike 03-17-14 11:31 AM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I'm really loving W101. The grpahics are great, and I'm starting to be pretty good at the combo system.

Brack 03-17-14 11:36 AM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I don't think the Wii U is a bust yet. True, AAA a games are lacking, but the indies and virtual console titles are probably doing quite nicely.

slop101 03-17-14 11:38 AM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
Yeah, the big difference between the U and a real failure of a console like the Virtual Boy, is that the people who do own a U are mostly happy with it, and their frustrations come from an untapped potential rather than a failure inherent to the console itself.

Brack 03-17-14 12:13 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I remember playing a VB setup at Blockbuster, and I thought is was a stinker the moment I looked into the screen. Just awful.

Supermallet 03-17-14 01:43 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12046511)
Virtual Boy was DOA and gone after a year. :shrug:

The Virtual Boy was not meant to be the successor to the SNES. A friend of mine got it and it was horrendous.

RichC2 03-17-14 01:57 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12046511)
Virtual Boy was DOA and gone after a year. :shrug:

I considered the Virtual Boy to be a handheld and not a game console, despite the big rig for it. So it doesn't really count in this situation.

Michael Corvin 03-17-14 08:08 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12047151)
I remember playing a VB setup at Blockbuster, and I thought is was a stinker the moment I looked into the screen. Just awful.

I bought one on clearance at TRU with about 10 games for around $50. Even at $50, it was overpriced. :lol:

slop101 03-17-14 09:15 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
Some good points.

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Adam Tyner 03-18-14 11:47 AM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
If you never got into the whole Wii Fit thing last gen, Amazon has Wii Fit U, the balance board, and the fit meter for $54.39 -- 40% off retail and beating any other price by ~$35.

Adam Tyner 03-18-14 12:41 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
What exactly Nintendo is scheming with their "QOL" platform remains fuzzy, but they've trademarked "QOL" in Japan, and the trademark covers "everything from portable gaming devices, stand alone gaming devices, to clothes, to merchandise, and beauty products". Doesn't necessarily mean that Nintendo will brand things as "QOL" (that strikes me as a fatal mistake), but they're at least keeping their options open.

RichC2 03-18-14 12:54 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I assume that's their fitness brand and means "Quality of Life" or something right?

Adam Tyner 03-18-14 01:01 PM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12048398)
I assume that's their fitness brand and means "Quality of Life" or something right?

Yes. We don't know exactly what's involved, but it'll be health related and apparently non-wearable. We also don't know if the brand will actually be called "QOL", but they've trademarked it in Japan as a possibility.

slop101 03-20-14 09:45 AM

Re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
As far as I'm concerned, until I have them downloaded, all of those indie games may as well be vapor-ware because not only I have I not seen shit on the eshop, everything keeps getting delayed.


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