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Groucho 01-23-13 09:37 AM

re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
Yes, you can still play your old VC games in 480p from inside the Wii menu.

SmackDaddy 01-23-13 09:38 AM

re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11550951)
...none of these titles are out yet :(

Mine will get dusted off when Rayman comes out.

You can by the Super Famicom version of Balloon Fight for 0.30 right now!! :lol: -ptth-

pinata242 01-23-13 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11550953)
Yes, you can still play your old VC games in 480p from inside the Wii menu.

I infer from this that one of the benefits of the WiiU/VC upgrade cost, per title, is that we get upscaling to 720/1080p? Seems pointless because A/V receivers and TVs do that anyway. I highly doubt they're going back and remastering the 30-year old NES games.

So... what else do we get?

chuckd21 01-23-13 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11550947)
I thought VC games ported to the WiiU during a transfer? Is this talking about a further upgrade? If so, what are we buying for that extra cost? It sure as fuck better not be just the ability to play them on the gamepad because that should be native functionality of the platform... you know, just like online remote multiplayer should have been because NEW emulators have been doing that for over a decade...

"The reason for this, said Iwata, is that Wii U Virtual Console games are being newly developed especially for Wii U and will feature the ability for players to save their progress and play directly on the GamePad."

SuperBatMan 01-23-13 09:46 AM

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I had been regretting purchasing a WiiU.

But now, after WW HD...

http://splodinator.com/wp-content/up...-My-Rupees.jpg

Not to mention a Yoshi game by the Kirby's Epic Yarn team? TAKE ALL MY RUPEES, NINTENDO!

Gizmo 01-23-13 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11550924)
Wow, fuck right off Nintendo.

Really? $1 and $1.50 for new features and GamePad. If you can't afford that, how did you buy a Wii U?

You don't even have to repurchase all of them. Just the ones you want to play.

Gees. A fucking dollar.

Gizmo 01-23-13 09:52 AM

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Fucking amazing. Always knew this was going to come eventually just due to the fact that the Tingle Tuner + GamePad made so much sense (and being the only Zelda console release not re-released like OoT has been 15 times).

If I didn't own a Wii U, I would buy it for this game alone.

Next: Please re-release Luigi's Mansion and Mario Sunshine. I really loved Nintendo's GameCube. I'd take Double-Dash over Mario Kart U anyday.

SuperBatMan 01-23-13 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11550971)
Next: Please re-release Luigi's Mansion and Mario Sunshine. I really loved Nintendo's GameCube. I'd take Double-Dash over Mario Kart U anyday.

This plus either make a new WaveRace, or HD-ify Blue Storm, and a Metroid Prime HD trilogy with GamePad, Wiimote, or Pro controller support.

I think I'd faint.

chuckd21 01-23-13 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11550967)
Really? $1 and $1.50 for new features and GamePad. If you can't afford that, how did you buy a Wii U?

You don't even have to repurchase all of them. Just the ones you want to play.

Gees. A fucking dollar.

I bought the ones I want to play. So to upgrade them we're talking $30-$50 in upgrade fees, for save states and the ability to play them on the Gamepad? Something that shitty portable emulators have been doing for years?

Yes, it's one dollar. But for people who bought a lot of VC titles and don't want to bother with the 5 minute "Load up Wii menu" wait times, that's horseshit, I'm sorry. It's not a matter of being able to afford it. It's a matter of "How many times are you going to give Malibu Stacy a new hat?"

You want to get my money a new way? Subscription service.

Rob V 01-23-13 09:57 AM

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If they come out with Rogue Squadron or anything great from the SW universe, I'm buying a Wii U for my son pronto.

Gizmo 01-23-13 09:59 AM

re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11550982)
I bought the ones I want to play. So to upgrade them we're talking $30-$50 in upgrade fees, for save states and the ability to play them on the Gamepad? Something that shitty portable emulators have been doing for years?

Yes, it's one dollar. But for people who bought a lot of VC titles and don't want to bother with the 5 minute "Load up Wii menu" wait times, that's horseshit, I'm sorry.

So go play on emulators.

I'd rather buy one that is going to work perfectly on my Wii U and on the GamePad.

pinata242 01-23-13 10:08 AM

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$1-$1.50 per title is a shitty thing. I also have 3-4 pages of VC titles on my Wii, not all of them are NES or SNES, but easily half.

I'd be happy paying a one-time upgrade fee of $10 for my entire library. But per title is a cash grab. Save state is not an upgrade, it was already on the Wii.

Anyway, if and when I ever buy a WiiU, I'll migrate all my VC titles. Then I'll look at the benefits of paying the additional fee for the games I really want to play frequently.

chuckd21 01-23-13 10:09 AM

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I guess to me it would be like paying for upgrades from an iPhone 4 app to an iPhone 5 app. New features, better resolution yes... but I shouldn't have to give you another fee.

Groucho 01-23-13 10:13 AM

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Several apps have a higher-priced "HD" version for tablets.

chuckd21 01-23-13 10:15 AM

re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11551010)
Several apps have a higher-priced "HD" version for tablets.

Sure, going from iPhone to iPad... I get that. That's not an issue to me. The comparison I'm making is going from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5. New resolution, new hardware, etc. But the apps you bought on the 4 don't charge you a fee when they add programming to them to make them work on the 5.

pinata242 01-23-13 10:17 AM

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Chuck, I guess we should just be happy are older purchases are honored at all. They didn't have to do that and I totally didn't expect it, even from the beginning of the Wii knowing there was no unified online Nintendo ID.

chuckd21 01-23-13 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11551016)
Chuck, I guess we should just be happy are older purchases are honored at all. They didn't have to do that and I totally didn't expect it, even from the beginning of the Wii knowing there was no unified online Nintendo ID.

I know... I just... I want Nintendo to get it right.

SuperBatMan 01-23-13 10:33 AM

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30 cents each for F-Zero, Punch-Out, and Super Metroid, with off TV GamePad support?

Very nice.

Krayzie 01-23-13 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11549718)

Thanks! I also just now figured out that the cord for the sensor bar is just for power...



Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11549719)
So why do you have both setup still? Gamecube
games?

I really have no idea as I haven't even turned on the Wii in a long time. I should probably just move everything over and box it up.



Originally Posted by SuperBatMan (Post 11550977)
This plus either make a new WaveRace, or HD-ify Blue Storm, and a Metroid Prime HD trilogy with GamePad, Wiimote, or Pro controller support.

Isn't the trilogy worth a decent amount of money? That'll drop the value of my unopened copy!

slop101 01-23-13 11:13 AM

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I love that we're in this new console gen, and the best games (Mario U, Rayman, Yoshi) are 2D games or old games re-done in HD (ZeldaWW).

Michael Corvin 01-23-13 11:19 AM

re: The Wii U: From "cool" Sony to evil Nintendo
 
I don't mind HD-ified remakes to pad out the schedule, as long as they don't interfere with new games and true sequels.


Originally Posted by Krayzie (Post 11551039)
Thanks! I also just now figured out that the cord for the sensor bar is just for power...

I have the Nyko one which auto powers down after 1-2 hours(you can set it) which is nice. I don't use it a ton, but I've had it a few years and have yet to replace the batteries.

That being said, I paid $15 for it. $45 is ridiculous.

MasterofDVD 01-23-13 11:42 AM

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With the exception of that weird Twister style game in that one video above I'm pretty impressed with everything I saw. Wind Waker was the last Zelda game I really gave a shit about so I'm thrilled about that news.

fujishig 01-23-13 12:40 PM

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So I found some old Wii Points cards... do I have to use those ASAP in the Wii store because they're not honored in the new store, or are they compatible?

Krayzie 01-23-13 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11551249)
So I found some old Wii Points cards... do I have to use those ASAP in the Wii store because they're not honored in the new store, or are they compatible?

Did they announce they were shutting down the Wii store?

I would guess they only work in the old store since our old points don't transfer to the new store. I hope Microsoft and Sony allow us to carry our balance over to their new consoles.

pinata242 01-23-13 02:40 PM

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I really should fire up my Wii then and soak up whatever points I still have on there if a) the points don't transfer or 2) the store is shutting down.

Especially now that today's Nintendo Direct made my pants a little tight for a Wii U. I almost went to go buy one, but that's silly. It's just Balloon Fight for 30 cents right now.


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