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aktick 12-05-11 10:13 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
From what I read on DBSTalk, DirecTV's reason for not allowing it is that they're totally revamping their On Demand offerings...supposedly it will be pretty close to what HBO Go offers, but via your DirecTV receiver.

pinata242 12-06-11 12:04 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Yeah, FUCK HBO for expanding! If you have cable, why do you care? It's only for assholes like me that steal their parents' Cox logins :banana:

pinata242 12-06-11 12:05 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by aktick (Post 11031685)
From what I read on DBSTalk, DirecTV's reason for not allowing it is that they're totally revamping their On Demand offerings...supposedly it will be pretty close to what HBO Go offers, but via your DirecTV receiver.

It's not really up to DirecTV to offer everything HBO directly does, is it? No. HBOGo will always be > any cable/sat/third-party provider's "on demand".

Decker 12-06-11 12:39 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
That UFC app was pretty slick. It was a lot of fun to watch the fights and see how my Friends predicted them. I have almost zero familiarity with the fighters so I didn't vote, but the experience was cool and if a bunch of online Friends watched it at the same time in a Party, I bet that would be a lot of fun.

aktick 12-06-11 10:06 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11031775)
It's not really up to DirecTV to offer everything HBO directly does, is it? No. HBOGo will always be > any cable/sat/third-party provider's "on demand".

Not sure what you're getting at. I'd prefer DirecTV to allow their subscribers to access HBOGo via Roku, 360, and whatever else. Sounds like they aren't going to. So at least they're going to make their (now very shitty) On Demand offerings MUCH better.

pinata242 12-06-11 10:28 AM

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I'm saying that while it would be nice for cable/sat providers to not block those sort of offerings by HBOGo, etc on other devices (Roku, 360, and whatever else), they don't have to. They think you should be using their bought/rented/monitored devices. They don't see the need for you to have access to that stuff on your TV when you should have it already subscribed and coming in on your tv through their boxes.

With me so far?

There are reasons the HBOGo iOS app (as well as the TBS and other such) explicitly override core functionality of the device and prevent you from pushing it from the iPad/iPhone to an AirPlay point, like the AppleTV to watch it on your TV. Cable/sat providers don't want HBO allowing you to watch it on the big screen outside of their own devices.

So, to offset that, they need to work with HBO to expand the "On Demand" offerings, but HBO doesn't necessarily need to let them have as expansive of a library as their own HBOGo offers. It's a game between the providers and we lose.

Imagine if HBO could offer Go subscriptions without needing a cable/sat provider? I'd buy in. That's going a long way to "a la carte" that cable/sat is reluctant to do. They're a dinosaur and this sort of restriction is evidence that they're scared of the internet.

Is that more clear?

aktick 12-06-11 10:36 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Well sure, I figured it kind of went without saying that it'd be nice if the cable/satellite providers wouldn't be able to tell HBO who and where they can offer their content. It sucks. But it's what we have to deal with.

mhg83 12-06-11 11:24 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Did the new Dashboard update go live yet?

Liver&Onions 12-06-11 11:27 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by mhg83 (Post 11032169)
Did the new Dashboard update go live yet?

Were you prompted when you turned on your xbox?

hail2dking 12-06-11 11:34 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11031344)
Yup. The cloud stuff is totally useless. Just allows you to save your game to a cloud storage "device" instead of to your hard drive. I guess you could copy your game saves to the cloud and retrieve them at your friend's house, but it's just easier to use a USB for that as well in your situation.

According to this quote from E3:

“Cloud storage will allow you to enjoy the same great Xbox Live gaming experience even when you’re not in your own living room by giving you the option to store your ‘game saves’ securely in the Xbox Live cloud, instead of on a portable memory unit or your console’s hard drive.

Gone are the days of ‘gamertag recovery’. Now all you need to do is sign in, no matter where you are!”
It sounds to me like your profile will be on the cloud as well. I am getting a 2nd 360 for the kids for Christmas and want them to be able to play the XBLA games I have on my console. I should be able to d/l those games to the new console and just sign in with my profile to play them correct? And then sign back into my profile on my console without using a portable memory unit?

aktick 12-06-11 11:46 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
No, it's not live yet apparently.

Jeremy517 12-06-11 11:48 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Delayed slightly

DJariya 12-06-11 12:15 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
I was excited about the HBOGo app coming to the 360 so that I could watch some of the movies and back catalogue from HBO streaming on my TV in widescreen and not on my 20 inch PC monitor or on my Android phone and not downloaded to my DVR hard drive eating up valuable space.

But, whatever, if Directv won't authorize it, I'll deal with it.

DJariya 12-06-11 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11032087)
Imagine if HBO could offer Go subscriptions without needing a cable/sat provider? I'd buy in. That's going a long way to "a la carte" that cable/sat is reluctant to do. They're a dinosaur and this sort of restriction is evidence that they're scared of the internet.

Is that more clear?

It's never going to happen. HBO's President said yesterday in a story I read that they are never going to allow their content to be available ala carte. You have to be a subscriber or buy the DVDs and Blu-Rays.

House 12-06-11 12:49 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 11031609)
Make sure your cable company supports HBOGo on the Roku. I've got Comcast, and they don't support it.

Crap, I'm using my parents account which is through Comcast. It works on my android phone. Makes no sense that Comcast lets it run on Android but not Roku.

So should we be anticipating that Comcast won't particpate with Xbox either?

pinata242 12-06-11 01:13 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
It makes perfect sense from their point of view.

starman9000 12-06-11 03:45 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Looks like Netflix got an update today. It is more Kinect-centric now too.

TheBigDave 12-06-11 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by House (Post 11032301)
Crap, I'm using my parents account which is through Comcast. It works on my android phone. Makes no sense that Comcast lets it run on Android but not Roku.

HBOGo via Comcast also works on the iPad. They seem to like mobile devices, but hate set-top boxes.


So should we be anticipating that Comcast won't particpate with Xbox either?
I don't know. I'm really hoping it'll work, but haven't seen anything to confirm or deny it. On the positive side, the Xfinity app seems to include most (maybe all) of the HBOGo content.

TheBigDave 12-06-11 05:17 PM

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Here's the new stuff coming to US customers:

Dec. 6:
• EPIX
• ESPN on Xbox LIVE (ESPN)
• Hulu Plus
• Netflix
• TODAY (MSNBC)

Later in December:
• Crackle (Sony Pictures)
• Dailymotion
• iHeartRadio (Clear Channel)
• MSNBC.com
• TMZ (Warner Bros.)
• UFC on Xbox LIVE (UFC)
• Verizon FiOS TV
• VEVO
• Vudu (Wal-Mart)
• YouTube.

Early 2012:
• CinemaNow (Best Buy)
• HBO GO (HBO)
• MLB.TV (MLB Advanced Media)
• Xfinity On Demand (Comcast)

Full Worldwide List - http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/p...Xbox360TV.mspx

DJariya 12-06-11 05:31 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
I just logged on and still no update yet. I checked Major Nelson's Twitter feed as of 2 hours ago and he says they are still working on getting the update out.

UncleGramps 12-06-11 05:38 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
If only they had planned ahead and had some kind of beta program to test out the new dashboard, maybe this could have been avoided. OH WAIT...

DJariya 12-06-11 05:46 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
So for the people who currently have the Beta version....Is it supposed to re-download the software again? I assume the Beta version is incomplete.

House 12-06-11 05:47 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Will you have to be a current subscriber to one Verizon Fios or Xfinitity to use view their content on Xbox live?

DJariya 12-06-11 05:54 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by House (Post 11032704)
Will you have to be a current subscriber to one Verizon Fios or Xfinitity to use view their content on Xbox live?

I believe yes. Epix is one of the channels that is coming and on the Roku box you have to be a subscriber to the service.


Major Nelson just tweeted that the update should be rolling out in the next few hours.

Dvdlovr24 12-06-11 05:56 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Major Nelson tweeted 8 minutes ago:

Sorry for the dash launch delay. Good news: first set of customers will be getting the Xbox LIVE update within the next few hours.

The just a minute ago:

And when I say customers, I mean Xbox LIVE members :)


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