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-   -   ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS! (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/video-game-talk/565754-eca-bastards-changed-policy-important-warning-all-members.html)

Anubis2005X 12-03-09 02:11 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 9869148)
I'm not a member, but I sent them a GMail post card anyway.

It read,

"Dear ECA,

I hope you learned a lesson.

Happy holidays!"
:bow:

GoVegan 12-03-09 03:03 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by superfro (Post 9869305)
Or absolutely brilliant! Maybe he's just really committed to the subterfuge! :lol:
Ha! A man can't spend all his time attempting to make his organization implode.

As long as I'm coming clean, though, Ingrid Newkirk (President of PETA) and I actually share this username. I got Video Game and Book Talk and she took custody of Other and Blu-Ray Bargains. She LOVES discounted Blu-rays.

Decker 12-03-09 03:12 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
I'm not certain that the Gmail letters will have any success in cancelling accounts, but if nothing else it'll make Hal rethink his stated desire to "establish a paper trail".

fujishig 12-03-09 03:25 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9869488)
I'm not certain that the Gmail letters will have any success in cancelling accounts, but if nothing else it'll make Hal rethink his stated desire to "establish a paper trail".
They probably won't be accepted... they're basically postcards, not the certified mail that they're requesting.

Dan 12-03-09 04:11 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Here's the card I just sent:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/members/som...7-eca-card.jpg

SunMonkey 12-03-09 04:56 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 9869512)
They probably won't be accepted... they're basically postcards, not the certified mail that they're requesting.
Especially now that people are sending fake ones.

fujishig 12-03-09 04:57 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by RobLutter (Post 9869335)
And we all know that once Hal orders his bounty hunters... the only way to cancel them is for him to send the bounty hunting service a registered letter in the mail and wait a month.

:)
no, the only way to call off the bounty hunters is by carrier pigeon... which will be the only way to cancel your ECA account once they get flooded with letters and decide that letters are only for the lazy.

Supermallet 12-03-09 04:59 PM
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Are you saying people can't send fake certified letters?

chess 12-03-09 05:03 PM
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I just took a peek at my account, which I kept open just in case. At some point, I think I turned off the autorenew, and I don't see an order for next year.

Is this issue only if you want to cancel your membership, or does it relate to autorenewal as well?

foxdvd 12-03-09 05:14 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by FatTony (Post 9869249)

I did see this in the comments on digg though. Thought it was interesting:

If that is true..this is the most interesting post about this I have seen yet.

fujishig 12-03-09 05:35 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by chess (Post 9869696)
I just took a peek at my account, which I kept open just in case. At some point, I think I turned off the autorenew, and I don't see an order for next year.

Is this issue only if you want to cancel your membership, or does it relate to autorenewal as well?
They don't differentiate between canceling your account and canceling autorenew, so we're assuming you need to cancel the account. Note that the main point of contention here is that the autorenew button DID NOT WORK... if you clicked it thinking that you opted out, they're saying you really did not, and they will charge you again.

glassdragon 12-03-09 07:31 PM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by FatTony (Post 9867170)
Astrogaming: 348ECAFF - 10% off
GameHQ: GHQeca1 - 10% off preplayed games
ThinkGeek: ECA09 - $5 orders over $25, $10 off orders over $50
Hyatt Hotels: B200955 - 5-10% off

LOL, exact same codes for everyone, they can't ban you if they don't know who you are because they are not unique :D

Ginwen 12-04-09 12:44 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 9869512)
They probably won't be accepted... they're basically postcards, not the certified mail that they're requesting.
I still think they will try to weasel out, but right now it says nothing about certified mail, just that it has to be a written request.

Supermallet 12-04-09 04:50 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
That's correct, the TOS does not mention certified mail.

Canis Firebrand 12-04-09 08:44 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9870473)
That's correct, the TOS does not mention certified mail.
Yet.... ;)

JasonF 12-04-09 09:07 AM
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It's not about what the TOS says. It's about the fact that if you don't send it certified mail, they apparently intend to claim they never received it -- and you won't be able to prove otherwise.

orangecrush 12-04-09 09:21 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9870696)
It's not about what the TOS says. It's about the fact that if you don't send it certified mail, they apparently intend to claim they never received it -- and you won't be able to prove otherwise.
Sadly, JasonF is right. The thing of it is, even if you send a request certified, there is nothing to stop them from continuing to charge you. Your recourse is going to take far more time and/or money than the $20 they will be stealing. I think our only hope is that there is enough pressure applied to them via BBB that they buckle and add the opt-out to their site.

mr.snowmizer 12-04-09 10:24 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by orangecrush (Post 9870723)
Sadly, JasonF is right. The thing of it is, even if you send a request certified, there is nothing to stop them from continuing to charge you. Your recourse is going to take far more time and/or money than the $20 they will be stealing. I think our only hope is that there is enough pressure applied to them via BBB that they buckle and add the opt-out to their site.
The BBB is actually toothless if the entity under investigation simply doesn't care.

What can happen, as I've experienced once, is that they can make the state's attorney general aware of a problem.

All I can say is that it's amazing how fast the 'bad guy who wants to stay in business' will contact you to resolve an issue when he's looking to get you to write a letter to the AG stating that everything's actually now fine.

Groucho 12-04-09 10:33 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Another online cancellation option. This one is a bit more costly than the Google alternative:

http://www.mailpoop.com

orangecrush 12-04-09 10:56 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9870862)
Another online cancellation option. This one is a bit more costly than the Google alternative:

http://www.mailpoop.com
rotfl

kefrank 12-04-09 11:01 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
I think this particular move by the ECA is pretty shady. On the other hand, I'm not surprised that the ECA is making it difficult to cancel, considering how many people abuse various membership services to obtain discounts (e.g., signing up to get short-term discounts with the full intention of canceling before ever having to pay a dime).

Groucho 12-04-09 11:05 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 9870917)
I think this particular move by the ECA is pretty shady. On the other hand, I'm not surprised that the ECA is making it difficult to cancel, considering how many people abuse various membership services to obtain discounts (e.g., signing up to get short-term discounts with the full intention of canceling before ever having to pay a dime).
The ECA offered a free year of membership with a coupon code. How is taking advantage of that "abuse"?

Krayzie 12-04-09 11:24 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 9870917)
I think this particular move by the ECA is pretty shady. On the other hand, I'm not surprised that the ECA is making it difficult to cancel, considering how many people abuse various membership services to obtain discounts (e.g., signing up to get short-term discounts with the full intention of canceling before ever having to pay a dime).
The ECA decided they wanted everyone to be able to sign up for free by printing a generic promo code in Game Informer. If they wanted to they could have killed the promo code after the first X amount of people signed up. I still haven't gotten over the fact that I paid for my membership and a month or 2 later they decide to let everyone sign up for free.

sniper308 12-04-09 11:25 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by orangecrush (Post 9870723)
Your recourse is going to take far more time and/or money than the $20 they will be stealing. .
It would be a pain, but cancelling the card you joined with and having the card company issue a new account # would be one way of taking care of it I'd think.

fujishig 12-04-09 11:26 AM
Re: ECA - BASTARDS CHANGED POLICY An Important warning to ALL MEMBERS!
 
Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 9870917)
I think this particular move by the ECA is pretty shady. On the other hand, I'm not surprised that the ECA is making it difficult to cancel, considering how many people abuse various membership services to obtain discounts (e.g., signing up to get short-term discounts with the full intention of canceling before ever having to pay a dime).
Who cares about making it difficult to cancel? They don't allow refunds on membership anyway. They are making it difficult to cancel the AUTORENEW option. The only way to do that is to cancel your membership, without refund. If they made it difficult to cancel membership but allowed you to cancel autorenew easily, nobody would complain.


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