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I felt the exact same way except that I did put Indigo down. I was really enjoying the story but got to a certain spot that was such a pain the ass that it made me realize how much the actual gameplay sucked and that I was just suffering thru it for the story.

It was a part in a church if I remember correctly and you had to time several actions perfectly. Angels or demons swooping down...or something like that. I got pissed and traded it without ever finishing it.

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http://www.destructoid.com/heavy-rai...--146940.phtml

"Replay value is one of the most desirable traits of any videogame, as developers try to convince cynical gamers that a new piece of software will be worth the $60 entrance fee. Of course, Quantic Dream doesn't like to do things the way other developers do them, and has instead stated that Heavy Rain will have no real replay value. Playing the game through multiple times, even with the prospect of different endings, is a bad idea according to David Cage.

"I would like people to play it once … because that’s life. Life you can only play once … I would like people to have this experience that way," explains Cage. "I’m fine with [people reloading saves to avoid bad endings], but the right way to enjoy Heavy Rain is really to make one thing because it’s going to be your story. It’s going to be unique to you. It’s really the story you decided to write … I think playing it several times is also a way to kill the magic of it."

Those dastardly mavericks at Quantic Dream just won't play by the rulebook! Damn those marvelous bastards.

Still, it's a very risky move, telling customers that playing the game through more than once will ruin it. We'll have to see if the unorthodox thinking will pay off for the company when Heavy Rain finally comes to the PS3 next year. I really hope it does, since I rate this studio very highly indeed."

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Uncharted 2 gets a 10 from Eurogamer, which is like a 17 from Gamespot:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/un...thieves-review

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Well then, I hope he backs that up by making all of the trophies attainable in one trip through the game. (Unlike, say, some games where you have to play through the game on Hard to unlock a harder difficulty, then play through it on that difficulty to get another trophy.)

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I don't think sales will be (positively) affected by his comment, though I commend his honesty. Somehow I doubt they're going to put his quote on the game box.

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I don't think it would matter much at all. He's just expressing his opinion on how he thinks the game should be played. It probably carries as much weight as David Lynch's opinion on watching movies on a cell phone. I happen to agree with Lynch on that, but I bet that most people who do it don't really care what he thinks.

Do other story-driven games really have replay value anyway? (Besides just experiencing it again) All we can really take from this is that there likely won't be any multiplayer game added.

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I'll play it drunk the first time so i forget stuff, then get partially drunk the remaining times. Solved.

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So, what? He expects me to just play the game once and never bother to play it again? Screw that. If there are multiple possible outcomes to each section of the game, that is a selling point. That has way more merit than all the BS trophies/achievements that Microsoft and Sony keep ramming down our throats as bullet points for so-called replay value.

This game has true replay value in a way that even the most entertaining games lack (yes, even my beloved Uncharted). The game and it's story are potentially different every time you play it. To say you shouldn't play it more than once seems to totally counter the grand potential this game offers. -ohbfrank-

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He thinks it should be a unique singular experience, you made the choices you made now live with them. It's a valid comment, but he doesn't seem to honestly think that people would do that.

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That's the way I see it. You can only experience the game once. You get vested in the story and make honest decisions along the way. The same can't be said if you play through again. You'll just be doing the opposite to see a different outcome making it more of a game than an experience.

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I get what you're saying. However, wouldn't a game with so much diversity provide gamers with a "a unique singular experience" during each subsequent playthrough? Basically, no two playthroughs would be the same. Especially with how rapidly it tosses options your way as your characters become more and more stressed.

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No. Like I posted above you wouldn't be making honest decisions the second time through. You will be making decisions based on your previous playthrough just so you can see an alternate path.

i.e. The first time through you decide to kill some crackhead because that's what you feel is the right decision in the moment. The second time through you're simply going to do the opposite which ruins the experience.

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But not killing the crackhead might trigger a new sequence of events. Events that you didn't get to experience the first time because you smoked the crackhead.

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Sony -ohbfrank-

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My point exactly. Just doing one thing differently opens up a whole other slew of possibilities for which you'd be unprepared. Short of replaying the game with a strategy guide, you'd still be compelled to make "honest decisions" in a totally different set of circumstances.

What the hell are they even advertising?

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I'm always skeptical of quotes that contain multiple . . . and [ ], strikes me as a way of manipulating phrases and taking things out of context. Of course, Destructoid has pretty high journalistic integrity, so its probably accurate...

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I'm aware, I'm just not explaining myself well.

Think about Bioshock and the first Little Sister you encounter. The first time you are playing you make an emotional decision that sets the course of the game resulting in a certain experience.

The second time through you meet up with that same Little Sister and that emotional response is gone. You are merely "doing the opposite" by pressing a button to see what happens. Now it's simply a game element and no longer an experience. You are no longer a part of the experience you are just going from point A to B to see end result Y.

No matter how many alternate paths there are you cannot re-experience the game because you are making decisions based on what you did on your first play through.

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The game is supposed to be lifelike and in life you cannot go back and see what happened if you did something differently (I can't go back in time and kill somebody that did me wrong at the moment they did it. ... Not yet at least.) That's all the guy is saying, and again it's his "ideal" experience (you live this characters life one time and live with the choices you made, and this is how you remember the game) but not an actual expectation of gamers.

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If it hasn't already happened, it won't. If you eventually get access to a time machine, you would have already gone back to fix that problem.

Chew on that, Doc Brown.

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you sir, have never seen Butterfly Effect

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Charlie Brown is an asshole.

Wait, wrong Brown, and what a random reference. My bad.

And just because I haven't run into anybody I'd like to kill doesn't mean my time machine is fake.

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Can I borrow it?

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Fine... But you gotta cover the $130 setup fee. Can't risk you plugging it in yourself.

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I have one too (555) 867-5309

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Make sure you attach it to your nads before you plug it in and flip the switch.