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The Dude 10-23-09 06:02 AM

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Woohoo, just fired up the Xbox this morning (since I'm going to go into work late) and saw that I have the update!

PixyJunket 10-23-09 08:22 AM

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Oh snap. I'ma need to setup my own station on Last.fm.

That is something that bands can setup on their own, right?

pinata242 10-23-09 08:29 AM

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Did anyone find the new music stores on the dashboard that have previews and things? All I found were the old links into the common marketplace.

Shagrath 10-23-09 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 9791549)
Did anyone find the new music stores on the dashboard that have previews and things? All I found were the old links into the common marketplace.

They're in the Music Marketplace, but they're not active yet. There are links for Rock Band and Lips. No Guitar Hero.

xmiyux 10-23-09 09:34 AM

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Has anyone noticed if Halo Waypoint is up yet? I looked, couldn't find it, and am assuming it is not live yet.

Mok 10-23-09 10:00 AM

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Major said Halo Waypoint won't be available till next week.

Supermallet 10-24-09 01:02 AM

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Got my update tonight. Twitter is very well implemented, I love the avatar standing next to the posts. Facebook looks a bit generic, I would never use it on the 360 unless I were desperate. The only good thing I can see coming out of it is the ability to easily see your Facebook photos on your TV. Last.fm is a great idea, but there's too much distortion for me to enjoy it. I'll stick to the albums I actually own. Also, the selection of photos they have is depressingly small, meaning you're looking at the same images repeatedly. And seeing as how we're gold members, I see no reason why we should have to see advertisements periodically while using Last.fm.

As for the 1080p streaming, I didn't try it, since it's for pay. I already have Netflix streaming so I see no reason to pay more on top of it.

Michael Corvin 10-24-09 09:25 AM

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Got the update this morning. I only use Facebook, no Twitter or Last.fm. It's an okay addition. Likely won't get much use.

Deftones 10-24-09 10:16 AM

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Also got the update. I don't use twitter or facebook, but I will probably use Last.fm.

Decker 10-24-09 10:18 AM

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Facebook is kind of hard to use. It's clunky navigation. Last.fm seems cool.

edstein 10-24-09 04:10 PM

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I'm still waiting for my update. I only plan on using the Zune integration. Last.fm would be cool if it could stream during gameplay. Otherwise I won't miss it.

Michael Corvin 10-24-09 05:11 PM

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Need some help guys. A friend of mine is getting the prompt to update his system but when he tries it gives him an error saying the update is unavailable. I think he can say 'no' to the update but when he does he can't sign into Live.

Has this happened to anyone before? Tips?

Shagrath 10-24-09 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9794184)
Need some help guys. A friend of mine is getting the prompt to update his system but when he tries it gives him an error saying the update is unavailable. I think he can say 'no' to the update but when he does he can't sign into Live.

Has this happened to anyone before? Tips?

I believe he can do a Network Test and it'll force the update. Not 100% though.

Michael Corvin 10-24-09 07:24 PM

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I'll pass that on. Thanks Shag.

Decker 10-25-09 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9763188)
Wow, I never knew that about the downmixing. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't as I seem to get good surround sound in my games. I'm going to stick in an action DVD today just to make sure, though.

BTW: Here's the HDMI/ Opitcal cable fix:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/...a000bf7e_o.gif

OK, my TV was downmixing the sound to 2.0. This technique described above does NOT work. I jabbed at the case and cut with a pocket knife with no avail. Can someone who actually did it please tell me how to break that casing?

Giantrobo 10-25-09 02:28 AM

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Is this update for you guys that did that Beta?

Decker 10-25-09 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 9794950)
Is this update for you guys that did that Beta?

Yes.

http://connect.microsoft.com/SiteIma...582d132539.jpg


Congratulations!

You have been selected to participate in the Xbox LIVE update Preview. Welcome!

Over the next few weeks you will be given the opportunity to experience all the great new features which will be available soon on Xbox, but you get to see them before the rest of the world.

These include –

* Zune Video
* Twitter
* Last.fm
* Facebook

We have already begun the process of rolling out the updates to your console. If you do not receive it right away, don’t worry, you will get it soon.

Be sure to visit https://connect.microsoft.com/dashboard then sign and click Xbox LIVE Update to see lots of great information about the preview including details about each new product in the program.

But most of all, sit back, and enjoy all that Xbox has to offer.

The Xbox Team

Giantrobo 10-25-09 03:55 AM

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Oh ok thanks.

Michael Corvin 10-25-09 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 9794335)
I believe he can do a Network Test and it'll force the update. Not 100% though.

No dice but I think we figured out what happened. A second friend that is in the preview played on his system(logged in) the other night. There was some hard drive swapping, gamertag moving, etc. IIRC, when the original NXE preview went out there was something about temporarily killing Live by signing into different machines. I don't recall the exact details, but his situation sounded familiar. I think his machine "saw" the update tied to "Friend 2's" gamertag so it's trying to update "Friend 1's" console based on that stored information.

So it looks like he's offline until the official update.

xmiyux 10-25-09 09:29 AM

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When you get into the beta it gives you a big warning about not transferring your gamertag to another system and such because it will make it so that other system can't play online until the update goes live.

Tell your friend to bunch his buddy for being a jerk.

pinata242 10-25-09 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9794946)
OK, my TV was downmixing the sound to 2.0. This technique described above does NOT work. I jabbed at the case and cut with a pocket knife with no avail. Can someone who actually did it please tell me how to break that casing?

It's basically like that image is showing you. You just have to put more force into it than it appears. You might need to get a box knife or something to make a hole for the head of the screwdriver to get into.

mugwump 10-25-09 11:05 AM

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Yep just attack it like a caveman. As long as you stay clear of the cord you'll be OK since the connector itself is sheathed in metal. Makes you wonder why they had to make the plastic case so fat in the first place.

Quake1028 10-25-09 11:55 AM

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So, last week I basically long term loaned my 360 and games to my brother since I vastly prefer the PS3 this gen, and didn't see any exclusives coming up I NEED to play right away. He plays it for about 15 minutes, and it starts locking up (I hadn't played it in around 7 months). Next day, bam, RROD :lol:. Ain't that a bitch.

Decker 10-25-09 11:59 AM

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Thanks. I used a swiss army knife to no avail. I'll try a box cutter -- good idea.

pinata242 10-25-09 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9795353)
Thanks. I used a swiss army knife to no avail. I'll try a box cutter -- good idea.

Don't be afraid of breaking it, you really cant. It's metal inside. Just don't be as dainty as you normally are.

Decker 10-25-09 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 9795448)
Don't be afraid of breaking it, you really cant. It's metal inside. Just don't be as dainty as you normally are.

:lol:

It's funny because it's true. :sad:

edit: The Mrs didn't put the box cutter back in the toolbox so it's likely lost forever, but I used the mini saw in my Swiss Army knife and it worked. It's quite deep; I can't imagine just stabbing it with a screwdriver and opening it up. Anyway, I'm getting 5.1 sound again, thankfully. Thanks for the tip.

Gooter 10-26-09 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 9795140)
It's basically like that image is showing you. You just have to put more force into it than it appears. You might need to get a box knife or something to make a hole for the head of the screwdriver to get into.

Yeah, I really had to use a lot of force. I just used a flat blade screwdriver that had a fairly thin blade on it. Then jammed and twisted away! There are big gouge marks in the casing but I can still fit it back together if I wanted.

Mok 10-26-09 05:32 PM

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Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement

October 26, 2009 - The announcement that video streaming service Netflix would be headed to PlayStation 3 next month left many wondering if Microsoft would respond by dropping the Xbox Live Gold membership requirement to use the service on the Xbox 360.

That answer, as of today, is no.

A company spokesperson reiterated to IGN the value of Xbox Live Gold status, saying it's online experience is still "a generation ahead of the competition" despite a yearly subscription cost.

"The Netflix experience on Xbox LIVE is unique and reflects our commitment for social entertainment. We believe we offer an experience today that is a generation ahead of what others are offering," the spokesperson said. "For a little over $4 a month Xbox LIVE Gold membership is hands-down the best value in home entertainment, and gives you exclusive access multi-player gaming and early demos as well as Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Last.fm, "1 vs 100" and more."

Unlike Xbox Live members, PlayStation 3 owners will not have to pay an additional charge outside of the monthly Netflix subscriber fee of $8.99.

Will you be moving your Netflix service to PlayStation 3? Or continue to remain on Xbox 360?

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/103/1038969p1.html

UncleGramps 10-26-09 05:54 PM

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The fact that you need a disc in your PS3 to use Netflix puts a real damper on the spontaneous appeal of Netflix Instant Viewing. I won't even bother signing up for the PS3 version of the service.

edstein 10-26-09 06:17 PM

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I've got Netflix on my 360 and on my standalone BD player and neither need a disc. I don't need it on my PS3.

pinata242 10-26-09 06:32 PM

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I love that response.

"We see no need to open up service X in response to direct competition because we have services C, M, Q, and Z that are in no way directly related to or compliment one another."

Demontooth 10-26-09 09:26 PM

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The map packs for Call of Duty World at War are half off this week.

porieux 10-26-09 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mok (Post 9798215)
Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Unlike Xbox Live members, PlayStation 3 owners will not have to pay an additional charge outside of the monthly Netflix subscriber fee of $8.99.

Having to get up and put a disc in is a form of payment, IMO.

Decker 10-26-09 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by porieux (Post 9798676)
Having to get up and put a disc in is a form of payment, IMO.

Do we know that you HAVE to put the disc in to use it? Are we certain that it's not just some sort of software install?

Matt 10-26-09 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9798721)
Do we know that you HAVE to put the disc in to use it? Are we certain that it's not just some sort of software install?


Joystiq dude: Can the Netflix application be installed to the PS3 hard dive from the disc? Or must the disc be inserted every time a user wants to access Netflix?

Netflix dude: Yes, the Netflix disc has to be inserted every time to access the Netflix service.

Why a disc-based application and not streaming access through the PS3 browser?

Netflix members and PS3 owners have really wanted a way to instantly watch movies and TV episodes streamed from Netflix via the PS3 system. The instant streaming disc represented the fastest and easiest way to let them do this.

Why not distribute the application via PSN download or firmware update, and then embed it into the XMB?

Again, the instant streaming disc represented the fastest and easiest way to let PS3 enthusiasts get Netflix on the PS3. Late next year we expect to have an embedded solution available for PS3s via a system software update slated for release through the PlayStation Network.

Is releasing the PS3 application on a disc required by an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

The Netflix agreement with Sony for PS3 is consistent with the terms of our partnership with Microsoft for Xbox 360.
Netflix: PS3 disc must remain in system until 2010 update; and other answers to your pressing questions

Decker 10-26-09 10:57 PM

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Thanks for that link. I guess there's no fundamental difference and therefor no real reason to use the PS3 streaming at present. If anything, the streaming on the 360 is better, not only because of not needing a disc, but also because I can control playback with my universal remote, something that I can't do on the PS3 without a second remote or a $60 add-on item.

Dan 10-26-09 11:40 PM

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Just bought an Elite to replace my old 20gb Pro.
I need to transfer all of my data from the 20gb to the 120gb drive.
Called MSFT to get a Migration Kit. The guy initially told me it'd be $13. I expressed disappointment, but agreed anyway. He took my information, then said that, because I'm in Canada, I may be eligible to get the Migration Kit for free. He went silent for a minute or two, then said he was pleased to tell me I'd be getting it for free. Yay!

Only problem is... I'm not sure how long it'll take to show up, and I've already got a buyer lined up for the old system.

Is there another way I can transfer the data? People have claimed success with a Memory Unit, but I don't have one of those. Is there no way to just copy everything to a USB stick, then onto the 120gb drive? That seems the most "logical"...

I can wait for the Migration Kit if I have to... I just don't want to. :)

Decker 10-27-09 12:47 AM

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The fact that MS doesn't even SELL the migration kit in stores, let alone just include it in the package is absurd at this point. Do they really think people are buying the 250 GB Super-Elite Modern Warfare 2 Edition as their first 360?

If they're really that worried about every penny, they could charge $13 to send it to you and credit you back once you return it --it's not an item you'd keep or ever use again. As it stands, all they're doing is fueling the ebay market.

Edison 10-27-09 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SomethingMore (Post 9798862)
Just bought an Elite to replace my old 20gb Pro.
I need to transfer all of my data from the 20gb to the 120gb drive.
Called MSFT to get a Migration Kit. The guy initially told me it'd be $13. I expressed disappointment, but agreed anyway. He took my information, then said that, because I'm in Canada, I may be eligible to get the Migration Kit for free. He went silent for a minute or two, then said he was pleased to tell me I'd be getting it for free. Yay!

Only problem is... I'm not sure how long it'll take to show up, and I've already got a buyer lined up for the old system.

Is there another way I can transfer the data? People have claimed success with a Memory Unit, but I don't have one of those. Is there no way to just copy everything to a USB stick, then onto the 120gb drive? That seems the most "logical"...

I can wait for the Migration Kit if I have to... I just don't want to. :)

If you had a 360 memory unit (no usb stick) it might work, but there are saves that cannot be transferred that way. Your best bet is just to wait for the transfer cable.

Michael Corvin 10-27-09 08:07 AM

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I'd say 99% of saves are transferable. I just copied all mine to a MU over the weekend in fear of the latest update. I was able to copy all but 4. 3 of those 4 were able to be "moved" to the MU. And the final save that I couldn't move or copy was Viva Pinata. I guess in a pinch I could boot up the game, load my save and re-save it to the MU. So there seems to be a way to get all your saves on the MU in every situation.


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