Official PS3 Thread - October 08 edition
10-27-08 | 07:28 AM
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Like slop said, keep playing you might just get your wish. No offense, but I think it's a bit weird that you are arguing your stance without having played the game yet. Do you realize how big and cumbersome the Big Daddy's are? That means you are very...very slow in that suit. It would not make for a very fun multiplayer experience.
10-27-08 | 02:25 PM
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Like slop said, keep playing you might just get your wish. No offense, but I think it's a bit weird that you are arguing your stance without having played the game yet. Do you realize how big and cumbersome the Big Daddy's are? That means you are very...very slow in that suit. It would not make for a very fun multiplayer experience.
10-28-08 | 11:46 AM
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Glad to see someone (Drexl) posted the controller conversion...pretty cool stuff.
10-29-08 | 09:20 AM
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PS3 Eye for $23 today at Amazon, should I bite?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
10-29-08 | 09:28 AM
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PS3 Eye for $23 today at Amazon, should I bite?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
Well, at least until this comes out next year:
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/aPENA1Bpm68&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/aPENA1Bpm68&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
10-29-08 | 09:47 AM
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That pet game looks great for my daughter. I can already see people drawing big pornographic penis' and whatnot for him to "play with" 
10-30-08 | 01:10 AM
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I'm thinking of picking up a PS3 when I'm back in the US for the holidays in December (I live in Japan.) I had been on the fence about this for a while but was finally swayed to get one when I learned the US and Japan are in the same region for Blu Ray discs
My dilemma now is working out which version to buy. From the wikipedia page I see the newest versions are missing feature found on previous models:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlaySta...configurations
Seem the only versions being manufactured now are not BC (not a big deal for me as I don't have a PS2), have fewer USB slots, no flash card reader (not sure I would every use this) and no SACD support (not even sure what this.)
Any recommendations on which version I should buy? Are the new versions improved in any way apart from the increased hard drive space?
My dilemma now is working out which version to buy. From the wikipedia page I see the newest versions are missing feature found on previous models:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlaySta...configurations
Seem the only versions being manufactured now are not BC (not a big deal for me as I don't have a PS2), have fewer USB slots, no flash card reader (not sure I would every use this) and no SACD support (not even sure what this.)
Any recommendations on which version I should buy? Are the new versions improved in any way apart from the increased hard drive space?
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10-30-08 | 01:31 AM
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I wish I could get that -- it's really nice. Yeah, the HDD is way too small, but they're easy and chap to replace now.
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10-30-08 | 01:40 AM
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I'm not sure if the new version is BC, but Amazon has the limited-edition Gunmetal grey Metal Gear Solid 4 Kojima Bundle 40 GB model for $399.99 next week. Seems like a hell of a deal on a very nice collector's edition that sold for $600 a few months ago.
I wish I could get that -- it's really nice. Yeah, the HDD is way too small, but they're easy and chap to replace now.
I wish I could get that -- it's really nice. Yeah, the HDD is way too small, but they're easy and chap to replace now.
10-30-08 | 11:25 AM
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I adore my PlayStation 3. It’s easily the best Blu-Ray player on the market and there are a lot of great games on it to enjoy. However, there is a hardware issue I have that has yet to be resolved.
The problem is (as I recently discovered) twofold. Both issues relate to the audio output of the PlayStation 3 via HDMI.
The first relates to listening to CDs. Whenever I play an audio CD on my PlayStation 3, rather than output the signal as 2-channel signal to my Onkyo TX-SR705, the PlayStation 3 sends the signal as if it were a 7.1-channel signal. This is problematic because my receiver is then “tricked” into thinking it’s receiving a true 7.1 mix and therefore disallows the use of any of its surround decoders. In reality, only the left and right speakers are receiving any audio whereas the other 5.1 channels are silent.
At first, I thought the aforementioned issue was the same I was experiencing when play PlayStation 1 & PlayStation 2 titles on my PlayStation 3. My PlayStation 3 was also misrepresenting the audio on those games as 7.1-channel mixes. Because of this, games that were encoded in Pro-Logic II were not benefiting from said decoding from my receiver. In addition to that, any PlayStation 2 games that featured cinematics with 5.1-channel audio (such as Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty) were playing silent during the 5.1 capable scenes.
This is when I stumbled on the crux of the issue as regards the audio when playing back older titles. The HDMI is acting as if it were the AV MULTI OUT of a PlayStation 2 rather than the Digital Out (Optical). That is why when I play Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening, rather than getting silence (as is the case with Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty), the audio that is output through the HDMI is the two channel mix that would be heard from the AV MULTI OUT if I were playing the game on a PlayStation 2.
There is a rather cumbersome workaround for the 2-channel audio (you have to unselect all audio output above 2 channels in the PlayStation 3’s Audio Output Settings) but no workaround whatsoever for the 5.1-channels issue.
I believe these audio issues could and should be corrected in a future firmware update.
The problem is (as I recently discovered) twofold. Both issues relate to the audio output of the PlayStation 3 via HDMI.
The first relates to listening to CDs. Whenever I play an audio CD on my PlayStation 3, rather than output the signal as 2-channel signal to my Onkyo TX-SR705, the PlayStation 3 sends the signal as if it were a 7.1-channel signal. This is problematic because my receiver is then “tricked” into thinking it’s receiving a true 7.1 mix and therefore disallows the use of any of its surround decoders. In reality, only the left and right speakers are receiving any audio whereas the other 5.1 channels are silent.
At first, I thought the aforementioned issue was the same I was experiencing when play PlayStation 1 & PlayStation 2 titles on my PlayStation 3. My PlayStation 3 was also misrepresenting the audio on those games as 7.1-channel mixes. Because of this, games that were encoded in Pro-Logic II were not benefiting from said decoding from my receiver. In addition to that, any PlayStation 2 games that featured cinematics with 5.1-channel audio (such as Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty) were playing silent during the 5.1 capable scenes.
This is when I stumbled on the crux of the issue as regards the audio when playing back older titles. The HDMI is acting as if it were the AV MULTI OUT of a PlayStation 2 rather than the Digital Out (Optical). That is why when I play Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening, rather than getting silence (as is the case with Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty), the audio that is output through the HDMI is the two channel mix that would be heard from the AV MULTI OUT if I were playing the game on a PlayStation 2.
There is a rather cumbersome workaround for the 2-channel audio (you have to unselect all audio output above 2 channels in the PlayStation 3’s Audio Output Settings) but no workaround whatsoever for the 5.1-channels issue.
I believe these audio issues could and should be corrected in a future firmware update.
Last edited by RocShemp; 10-30-08 at 11:31 AM.
10-30-08 | 12:20 PM
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I did. I took my post and copy/pasted it to a message I sent via their customer support page. Hopefully I'll get a favorable response.
10-30-08 | 09:06 PM
#67
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So I got a response regarding my promblem.
Basically he copy/pasted most (if not everything) from the trouble shooting FAQs. None of which helps me in the least. 
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Hello ,
Thank you for writing us.
The PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer entertainment system will support audio technology such as Dolby
Digital 5.1 ch, DTS 5.1 ch, LPCM 7.1 ch, AAC, and others.<1> <2> To playback sound recorded on your
DVD/software in Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS format to reproduce the effect of listening in a movie
theater or concert hall, you must connect to audio equipment with the ability to decode DTS or Dolby
Digital sound (sold separately). You must connect the component via the DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL)
connector using an optical digital cable (sold separately).
<1> A device compatible with Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. is required to output 7.1 Ch. audio, supported by
Dolby TrueHD or a similar format, from the HDMI OUT connector.
<2> With system software version 2.30 or greater, DTS-HD Master Audio and DTS-HD High Resolution
Audio output is now supported.
To utilize the "DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL)" feature of the PLAYSTATION 3 system, you should plug in the
(yellow) "Video" connectors only. You should also disconnect the Left and Right Audio (white and
red) connectors that may be installed into your television/stereo. Every setup can vary depending
upon the make and model of your equipment, so there may be exceptions to this. One such example
would be when you may be using an RFU adapter to relay the video and sound information to the
television.
NOTE: The PLAYSTATION(R)3 system allows you to configure the audio output settings independent of
the display output settings. You may need to make sure the correct audio out setting is selected
for your installation.
1. To choose the audio output setting go to the Settings icon.
2. Navigate down to Sounds Settings and press "X".
3. Navigate to Audio Output Settings and press "X".
4. You will be then prompted to choose from "AV Multi Out port", "Digital Out (Optical)", or "HDMI."
Highlight the output port of you setup and press the right direction button. If you choose "HDMI"
go to step 5. If you choose "Digital Out (Optical)" go to step 6.
5. If you choose "HDMI", you will be given the option to choose "Automatic" or "Manual."
- Automatic: The PLAYSTATION 3 will automatically choose the method for setting the audio output
format. Highlight "Automatic" and press the right direction button.
- Manual: You are able to manually choose the audio output formats supported by your display or
AV amplifier (receiver). Highlight the audio output option and press the "X" button on the option
you wish to use and make sure the check box is checked. Once you are done, press the right
direction button. If you are uncertain what to choose, please consult the manufacturer of your home
theater equipment for additional assistance.
6. If you choose "Digital Out (Optical)," you will be give the option to select the output format
supported by the display or AV amplifier (receiver). Highlight the options and press the "X" button
and make sure the check box is checked. Once you are done, press the right direction button. If
you are uncertain which options to choose please consult the manufacturer of your home theater
equipment for additional assistance.
7. Once you are done, a summary of the audio outputs will be displayed. Press the "X" button to
save this setting.
8. The audio output of the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system will now output audio from the port you have
selected using the settings chosen.
Additionally, the audio output format for certain Blu-ray Discs(TM) or DVD media may be specified
depending on your display or AV amplifier(receiver). Go to "Settings" > "BD/DVD Settings". If the
audio output is coming from the HDMI port, select "BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)". If audio
output is coming from the Digital Optical Out port, select "BD/DVD Audio Output Format (Optical
Digital)". You will be able to choose between "Bitstream" or "Linear PCM". Please contact the
manufacturer of your display or AV amplifier (receiver) to determine what your display or AV
amplified (receiver) supports.
You may wish to review our Knowledge Base for additional information:
http://playstation.custhelp.com
We would also recommend the following Knowledge Base articles that relate to this topic:
Supported Audio Output on the PLAYSTATION 3
http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...hp?p_faqid=788
Additionally, we would recommend:
- Install the Latest Firmware Update
To check what version of the System Software is currently installed on your PLAYSTATION 3, from the
XMB(TM) menu go to [Settings] > [System Settings] > [System Information]. The system will display
the System Software version number. You can visit the following link to determine whether you have
the latest version installed.
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/About/SystemUpdate
- Check your Environment
Make sure to allow adequate ventilation to flow from the PLAYSTATION 3's vents (i.e., avoid
obstructing the vents with long/shaggy carpet, inadequate airflow from cramped entertainment cabinet
setups, etc.). Make sure to also keep the PLAYSTATION 3 away from excessive dust, smoke, steam,
extreme temperatures, humidity, or direct sunlight. Full details on Safety Precautions and Use and
Handling can be found in the PLAYSTATION 3 Instruction Manual.
http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/PS3/Manuals
If you need more assistance, please call our Consumer Services Department at (800) 345-7669. Our
representatives are available to assist you, Monday through Saturday 6:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m., and
Sunday 7:00 a.m. - 6:30 p.m., Pacific Standard Time.
If you have further questions regarding this message and are replying back via email, please refer
to your email case number:6453072.
Regards,
Matt D.
Multimedia Representative
Sony Computer Entertainment America
Consumer Services Department
Additional Support Resources
---------------------------------------------
PlayStation.com Knowledge Base: Browse through hundreds of helpful FAQ articles at our Knowledge
Base at PlayStation.com. To begin, please click on http://playstation.custhelp.com
PlayStation.com Support Page: You will find helpful content divided by our PlayStation(R) product
lines. Please visit http://www.us.playstation.com/Support and select the PlayStation product of
your choice to learn more.
Thank you for writing us.
The PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer entertainment system will support audio technology such as Dolby
Digital 5.1 ch, DTS 5.1 ch, LPCM 7.1 ch, AAC, and others.<1> <2> To playback sound recorded on your
DVD/software in Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS format to reproduce the effect of listening in a movie
theater or concert hall, you must connect to audio equipment with the ability to decode DTS or Dolby
Digital sound (sold separately). You must connect the component via the DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL)
connector using an optical digital cable (sold separately).
<1> A device compatible with Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. is required to output 7.1 Ch. audio, supported by
Dolby TrueHD or a similar format, from the HDMI OUT connector.
<2> With system software version 2.30 or greater, DTS-HD Master Audio and DTS-HD High Resolution
Audio output is now supported.
To utilize the "DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL)" feature of the PLAYSTATION 3 system, you should plug in the
(yellow) "Video" connectors only. You should also disconnect the Left and Right Audio (white and
red) connectors that may be installed into your television/stereo. Every setup can vary depending
upon the make and model of your equipment, so there may be exceptions to this. One such example
would be when you may be using an RFU adapter to relay the video and sound information to the
television.
NOTE: The PLAYSTATION(R)3 system allows you to configure the audio output settings independent of
the display output settings. You may need to make sure the correct audio out setting is selected
for your installation.
1. To choose the audio output setting go to the Settings icon.
2. Navigate down to Sounds Settings and press "X".
3. Navigate to Audio Output Settings and press "X".
4. You will be then prompted to choose from "AV Multi Out port", "Digital Out (Optical)", or "HDMI."
Highlight the output port of you setup and press the right direction button. If you choose "HDMI"
go to step 5. If you choose "Digital Out (Optical)" go to step 6.
5. If you choose "HDMI", you will be given the option to choose "Automatic" or "Manual."
- Automatic: The PLAYSTATION 3 will automatically choose the method for setting the audio output
format. Highlight "Automatic" and press the right direction button.
- Manual: You are able to manually choose the audio output formats supported by your display or
AV amplifier (receiver). Highlight the audio output option and press the "X" button on the option
you wish to use and make sure the check box is checked. Once you are done, press the right
direction button. If you are uncertain what to choose, please consult the manufacturer of your home
theater equipment for additional assistance.
6. If you choose "Digital Out (Optical)," you will be give the option to select the output format
supported by the display or AV amplifier (receiver). Highlight the options and press the "X" button
and make sure the check box is checked. Once you are done, press the right direction button. If
you are uncertain which options to choose please consult the manufacturer of your home theater
equipment for additional assistance.
7. Once you are done, a summary of the audio outputs will be displayed. Press the "X" button to
save this setting.
8. The audio output of the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system will now output audio from the port you have
selected using the settings chosen.
Additionally, the audio output format for certain Blu-ray Discs(TM) or DVD media may be specified
depending on your display or AV amplifier(receiver). Go to "Settings" > "BD/DVD Settings". If the
audio output is coming from the HDMI port, select "BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)". If audio
output is coming from the Digital Optical Out port, select "BD/DVD Audio Output Format (Optical
Digital)". You will be able to choose between "Bitstream" or "Linear PCM". Please contact the
manufacturer of your display or AV amplifier (receiver) to determine what your display or AV
amplified (receiver) supports.
You may wish to review our Knowledge Base for additional information:
http://playstation.custhelp.com
We would also recommend the following Knowledge Base articles that relate to this topic:
Supported Audio Output on the PLAYSTATION 3
http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...hp?p_faqid=788
Additionally, we would recommend:
- Install the Latest Firmware Update
To check what version of the System Software is currently installed on your PLAYSTATION 3, from the
XMB(TM) menu go to [Settings] > [System Settings] > [System Information]. The system will display
the System Software version number. You can visit the following link to determine whether you have
the latest version installed.
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/About/SystemUpdate
- Check your Environment
Make sure to allow adequate ventilation to flow from the PLAYSTATION 3's vents (i.e., avoid
obstructing the vents with long/shaggy carpet, inadequate airflow from cramped entertainment cabinet
setups, etc.). Make sure to also keep the PLAYSTATION 3 away from excessive dust, smoke, steam,
extreme temperatures, humidity, or direct sunlight. Full details on Safety Precautions and Use and
Handling can be found in the PLAYSTATION 3 Instruction Manual.
http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/PS3/Manuals
If you need more assistance, please call our Consumer Services Department at (800) 345-7669. Our
representatives are available to assist you, Monday through Saturday 6:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m., and
Sunday 7:00 a.m. - 6:30 p.m., Pacific Standard Time.
If you have further questions regarding this message and are replying back via email, please refer
to your email case number:6453072.
Regards,
Matt D.
Multimedia Representative
Sony Computer Entertainment America
Consumer Services Department
Additional Support Resources
---------------------------------------------
PlayStation.com Knowledge Base: Browse through hundreds of helpful FAQ articles at our Knowledge
Base at PlayStation.com. To begin, please click on http://playstation.custhelp.com
PlayStation.com Support Page: You will find helpful content divided by our PlayStation(R) product
lines. Please visit http://www.us.playstation.com/Support and select the PlayStation product of
your choice to learn more.
10-30-08 | 09:28 PM
#68
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That is a known issue. Many people on AVS have complained about it. Sorry, there's nothing you can do until they change this.
I prefer to keep stereo music as stereo (but with the subwoofer handling the low bass), so the way it is now would work for me. However, even those of us that don't want to use surround processing could be affected. Some receivers won't even apply bass management to a lossless multichannel signal, and with this issue the subwoofer would be silent on such a receiver.
I prefer to keep stereo music as stereo (but with the subwoofer handling the low bass), so the way it is now would work for me. However, even those of us that don't want to use surround processing could be affected. Some receivers won't even apply bass management to a lossless multichannel signal, and with this issue the subwoofer would be silent on such a receiver.
10-30-08 | 09:31 PM
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10/30 update is up. Looks like mostly demos. We have Mirror's Edge (downloading now), WWE Smackdown vs. RAW, Silent Hill, and Tom Clancy's EndWar (all in the queue). Didn't look beyond that to see what else was released, but I didn't see any new full games for download. Maybe I checked in the middle of the update, cause I thought there were some new games due today too.
10-31-08 | 01:13 PM
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10-31-08 | 01:53 PM
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