XBLA Thread Part thrizzee (3)
02-02-09 | 02:53 PM
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Wow, 1200 points for a SHUMP? No thanks.
02-02-09 | 04:50 PM
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Agreed. Way too much. I might just go ahead and pick up Meteos Wars now since I have so many points in my account and there's nothing too interesting to spend them on now. I'll probably wait until Wed just to check out the demo, but honestly unless a game is really special like Braid or SSFIIHD Turbo, I just won't go that high.
02-02-09 | 06:39 PM
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I too was interested in this until I saw 1200 it would have to really wow me, and to be honest I am little interested in the nhl game but I like arcade sports once in awhile
02-02-09 | 09:48 PM
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You're not serious, are you? So you wouldn't have a problem paying $50 for Pac-Man today? The market has been established that a release like this is priced at a certain level, and while there are some games that people have felt were worth paying the 1200 point premium for, a basic shoot em up where there are already numerous similar games on XBLA makes it tougher to swallow.
02-03-09 | 06:53 AM
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You're not serious, are you? So you wouldn't have a problem paying $50 for Pac-Man today? The market has been established that a release like this is priced at a certain level, and while there are some games that people have felt were worth paying the 1200 point premium for, a basic shoot em up where there are already numerous similar games on XBLA makes it tougher to swallow.
02-03-09 | 07:29 AM
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Count me as another who was interested, but not at 1200. I still haven't ponied up for a game on any of the three systems that was more than $10. No reason to start now.
As for Pac-Man: CE, I was one who complained about the $10 when it came out, but looking back, I think with an un-timed mode and a couple more features and it could easily have been a $20 game.
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02-03-09 | 07:43 AM
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You'll spend $15+ taking two people out to a movie that's only going to give you 2-3 hours of entertainment.
I'm not even interested in the game, as I'm not a huge fan of SHMUPs at all, but I would have no problem at all spending $15 on a game that I knew I would enjoy. I've picked up Puzzle Quest (after already having the DS version) and Castle Crashers. I don't have a single regret about either of them.
I'm not even interested in the game, as I'm not a huge fan of SHMUPs at all, but I would have no problem at all spending $15 on a game that I knew I would enjoy. I've picked up Puzzle Quest (after already having the DS version) and Castle Crashers. I don't have a single regret about either of them.
02-03-09 | 07:57 AM
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Puzzle Quest: Galactrix Release Date Confirmed
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/p/pq...boxlivearcade/
Looks like the XBLA splash page is up for Galactrix, and has it dropping on 2/24! I was fairly certain that I read it was coming in March. Late Feb. is better than early March!
[I]Edit: Just realized that 2/24 is a Tuesday. So 2/25 might be the correct date.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/p/pq...boxlivearcade/
Looks like the XBLA splash page is up for Galactrix, and has it dropping on 2/24! I was fairly certain that I read it was coming in March. Late Feb. is better than early March!
[I]Edit: Just realized that 2/24 is a Tuesday. So 2/25 might be the correct date.
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02-03-09 | 08:02 AM
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The bitching really is fucking ridiculous and over done here. It's almost EVERY arcade release, regardless of price and it's always the same people whining about it. I don't even like R-Type but this is a great package for the price, you're getting TWO full games, completely redone in HD with online co-op. If they had been released separately at $10 a piece, there would probably be less bitching. It's like that $15 barrier marks some kind of symbolic rape. It's just a bunch of Pavlov's dogs at times. Ring that bell Microsoft, ring that bell.
02-03-09 | 08:03 AM
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You'll spend $15+ taking two people out to a movie that's only going to give you 2-3 hours of entertainment.
I'm not even interested in the game, as I'm not a huge fan of SHMUPs at all, but I would have no problem at all spending $15 on a game that I knew I would enjoy. I've picked up Puzzle Quest (after already having the DS version) and Castle Crashers. I don't have a single regret about either of them.
I'm not even interested in the game, as I'm not a huge fan of SHMUPs at all, but I would have no problem at all spending $15 on a game that I knew I would enjoy. I've picked up Puzzle Quest (after already having the DS version) and Castle Crashers. I don't have a single regret about either of them.
I also won't buy the expensive games on Live unless i have discounted points that make the title effectively cheaper and it is something new. For instance i bought episode 1 of the PA game because i had half price points so it was essentially 10$ for me. I didn't have cheap points when episode 2 came out so i didn't buy it.
I may buy Galactrix but with it also coming to the DS i may just wait for the portable form.
I hate spending much money on the Marketplace when the DRM is restrictive, i can't resell the games, and i have no guarantee my licenses will transfer to whatever new console MS is working on next.
02-03-09 | 08:07 AM
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The bitching really is fucking ridiculous and over done here. It's almost EVERY arcade release, regardless of price and it's always the same people whining about it. I don't even like R-Type but this is a great package for the price, you're getting TWO full games, completely redone in HD with online co-op. If they had been released separately at $10 a piece, there would probably be less bitching. It's like that $15 barrier marks some kind of symbolic rape. It's just a bunch of Pavlov's dogs at times. Ring that bell Microsoft, ring that bell.
Perhaps there would be less complaining if they were released separately at 10$ each (and combined would have been more expensive). It is about perceived value and is a general marketing idea. Early on when i first started buying RB DLC i snagged 1$ songs that i never would have even given a listen to at 2$. Heck look at the iTouch threads and see how some folks snap up any game that is discounted. Is it a sheep-like behavior? Maybe. But it is enough human nature to be an actual marketing tool.
02-03-09 | 08:45 AM
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I was interested in R-Type but then I saw the 1200 point cost and I'm just too damn cheap. I'll just have to play Aegis Wing or hook up my dreamcast to play shooters.
02-03-09 | 09:15 AM
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The bitching really is fucking ridiculous and over done here. It's almost EVERY arcade release, regardless of price and it's always the same people whining about it. I don't even like R-Type but this is a great package for the price, you're getting TWO full games, completely redone in HD with online co-op. If they had been released separately at $10 a piece, there would probably be less bitching. It's like that $15 barrier marks some kind of symbolic rape. It's just a bunch of Pavlov's dogs at times. Ring that bell Microsoft, ring that bell.
Remake or not, it doesn't help that the games are 1. short and 2. 20 years old. If anything is "fucking ridiculous and over done here" it is your defense of these types of games. No offense intended, of course, just quoting you for emphasis. They just don't have the draw or perceived value to the gaming world that they used to.
Times change.That and the whole DRM(no trade/resale/ownership) barrier miyu mentioned is a big factor. You're essentially paying $15 for a glorified rental. Sure there is an imaginary barrier between $10 and $15, but it is what it is.
02-03-09 | 09:17 AM
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Speaking of fucking ridiculous and over done, how about eating 40,000 fish in Feeding Frenzy? 
Also, I'm getting back to Galaga Legions after a way-too-busy-last-half-of-2008 and I think I'm falling in love.
Can't wait for PQ: Galactrix later this month, but I'm torn between DS for portability and XBLA for presentation and achievements.
Also, I'm getting back to Galaga Legions after a way-too-busy-last-half-of-2008 and I think I'm falling in love.
Can't wait for PQ: Galactrix later this month, but I'm torn between DS for portability and XBLA for presentation and achievements.
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02-03-09 | 09:33 AM
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We'll see what the market will bear. I thought 1200 for Castle Crashers was very fair for the amount of content in that game and didn't complain about SSFIIHD Turbo considering the amount of work that went into that game. This game seems to be a very good SHUMP, but if 800 points was an acceptable price point for Omega Five and for Ikaruga, it really should be enough for this as well.
And just in case you think it's just us sheep that feel this way, check out what Team Xbox says in their 7.9 review of the game:
I think that says it more elegantly than I could. I'm going to vote with my wallet, just as I did with the Penny Arcade games that actually looked pretty good, just not worth that price. I look forward to seeing what sort of activity it shows on 360 Voice on Thursday. If people don't have a problem with the price, more than 1500 people will buy it on day one, making it at least a moderate hit. Less than 1000, and it'll be clear Microsoft made a mistake with the pricing.
Oh, and this game earns extra scorn because when submitted for review at OXM, it was priced at 800 points and was graded accordingly. Had they known MS would have jacked up the price and they likely would have scored lower.
And just in case you think it's just us sheep that feel this way, check out what Team Xbox says in their 7.9 review of the game:
The biggest problem I see with R-Type Dimensions—and it is a big one—is its price, which is 1200 Microsoft Points (or about $15). The $5 jump from 800 to 1200 is a fairly small difference when you consider it on a strictly financial basis, but it seems to cross a line that many players have set in the sand. At least that’s what I expect if past XBLA history is any indication—as that’s what many said kept them from buying Braid, despite how original and innovative it was. A highly in-demand game like Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix can probably get away with the bigger price tag, and maybe even a title such as Portal: Still Alive (which had a good portion of content carried over from The Orange Box version of Portal, but also offered the new Challenge Levels to increase the package value).
I think what Tozai and Southend have done to bring R-Type Dimensions into 2009 is admirable, but some gamers—especially in this volatile economy—might not see it as enough to warrant the extra $5…or perhaps they’ll be content to wait for what they expect will be an inevitable reduced price down the road. If you’re a relentless competitor that has to beat every video game you can, you’ll probably love the challenge of R-Type Dimensions, while those who just want to enjoy an old game brought to XBLA and maybe will play it a few times to see far you can get up the leaderboard…well, you might not be as interested in paying $15 for that experience.
I think what Tozai and Southend have done to bring R-Type Dimensions into 2009 is admirable, but some gamers—especially in this volatile economy—might not see it as enough to warrant the extra $5…or perhaps they’ll be content to wait for what they expect will be an inevitable reduced price down the road. If you’re a relentless competitor that has to beat every video game you can, you’ll probably love the challenge of R-Type Dimensions, while those who just want to enjoy an old game brought to XBLA and maybe will play it a few times to see far you can get up the leaderboard…well, you might not be as interested in paying $15 for that experience.
Oh, and this game earns extra scorn because when submitted for review at OXM, it was priced at 800 points and was graded accordingly. Had they known MS would have jacked up the price and they likely would have scored lower.
02-03-09 | 09:36 AM
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I need to get back to Galaga too.. and I haven't even STARTED Braid yet. August 2008 was beyond amazing for XBLA. I wonder if Microsoft is going to do Summer of XBLA again and if they do, how could they ever top last year's slate? I'd imagine the Pac-Man CE team will have another game, probably Dig Dug Extreme if they stick to "popular" classics but I'd love to see them update Tower of Druaga personally.
02-03-09 | 09:36 AM
#447
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The bitching really is fucking ridiculous and over done here. It's almost EVERY arcade release, regardless of price and it's always the same people whining about it. I don't even like R-Type but this is a great package for the price, you're getting TWO full games, completely redone in HD with online co-op. If they had been released separately at $10 a piece, there would probably be less bitching. It's like that $15 barrier marks some kind of symbolic rape. It's just a bunch of Pavlov's dogs at times. Ring that bell Microsoft, ring that bell.
Come on now. Shouldn't you be complaining about how they're a blurry mess or something instead? Again, the market has been set for these type of games. I guarantee you that sales numbers will be low for this at 1200 points too, and it's not just DVDTalk complaining about pricing. It's one thing if you have an entirely brand new game (Penny Arcade, Braid) or a hotly anticipated refresh (Street Fighter, Bionic Commando) but are people really clamoring for R-Type to pay a premium on?
02-03-09 | 09:37 AM
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02-03-09 | 10:36 AM
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The bitching really is fucking ridiculous and over done here. It's almost EVERY arcade release, regardless of price and it's always the same people whining about it. I don't even like R-Type but this is a great package for the price, you're getting TWO full games, completely redone in HD with online co-op. If they had been released separately at $10 a piece, there would probably be less bitching. It's like that $15 barrier marks some kind of symbolic rape. It's just a bunch of Pavlov's dogs at times. Ring that bell Microsoft, ring that bell.