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JasonF 11-16-08 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Cosmic Bus (Post 9075904)
I'm only a few hours into the game and am already stumped with one of the quests. Lucy West asks me to deliver a message to her parents, then after a couple of other conversations, I'm sent to track down the gang that keeps coming to Arefu at one of three possible places. They're not at any of them, and now someone else tells me to look for the Family at a trainyard; they aren't there either. I've looked all over these areas at all times of day and night (Evan King says these people only move in the dark?) with no luck. What am I doing wrong?

You were on the right track.
Spoiler:
Go to Meresti Trainyard. There should be a door (two doors, actually) to get into the tunnels under the trainyard. If you're having trouble finding it, look on your local map on your PipBoy and it will show up as an icon if you've wandered close enough to it. Once you're inside the tunnels, you should find the Family with no problem.

Cosmic Bus 11-16-08 05:50 PM

I've been in those tunnels a number of times... They were loaded with booby traps, which made me think the Family was there, but there's no one to be found.

Matthew Ackerly 11-16-08 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9075973)
You were on the right track.
Spoiler:
Go to Meresti Trainyard. There should be a door (two doors, actually) to get into the tunnels under the trainyard. If you're having trouble finding it, look on your local map on your PipBoy and it will show up as an icon if you've wandered close enough to it. Once you're inside the tunnels, you should find the Family with no problem.



Spoiler:
Underneath the station, you have to go into the room with the two ghouls (who ask you to bring them sugar bombs) and there are two radioactive barrels and a manhole. Open the manhole and go inside the tunnel. Follow that and the family is at the end.

jonw9 11-16-08 06:59 PM

Man, this game is too huge! :lol:

I was doing a (side) mission the other day, which led to another side mission. I am just trying to walk to the locator on my map, and end up wandering around the capitol for over an hour.

I can't pass up exploring every corner on the chance of finding a bobble head or book.

So, my wife got tired of watching me play, and I really did not accomplish anything! :D

bdshort 11-16-08 07:27 PM

You said it. I'm on the Riley's Rangers mission, just got done saving their asses on the roof. Apparently, once you get back to ground level, they warp back to their base, but you're stuck having to walk. Now I'm stuck between wanting to just head there to complete the quest, or spend hours exploring the new area I'm in! :lol:

jonw9 11-16-08 08:39 PM

That is the mission I am on as well, but I was on my way to the Ranger HQ to gear up, but blew away so many Mutis, that I have more .32 ammo and hunting rifles to start my own army! :lol:

Tuan Jim 11-16-08 08:43 PM

Getting around DC the first time is a major pain in the ass between all the metro stops and entrances and things - once you start clearing them up on your map though, speed travel makes things 100x easier. The problem is partly that there's no real measure of distance once you get off the capital wasteland into the metro tunnels - I keep finding myself overshooting my surface "stop" by a couple blocks every time I walk down a single corridor in the tunnels.

And about Meresti - follow the trail of booby traps and you should find them. A good way to check progress is also to check your local map - it'll show doors to new areas that you've passed - even if you couldn't see them in the dark.

bdshort 11-16-08 09:32 PM

jonw9: After getting the scrounger perk, I'm not hurting for ammo... I have more grenades and mines than I know what to do with... I use them just to get rid of the weight. Only weapon I'm hurting for ammo on is the sniper rifle. Still havent gone to the location that supposedly has a .44 hunting rifle! Not hurting for caps either, I must have near 7000 right now and I'm sure that'll go up.

Cosmic Bus 11-16-08 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Matthew Ackerly (Post 9076241)
Spoiler:
Underneath the station, you have to go into the room with the two ghouls (who ask you to bring them sugar bombs) and there are two radioactive barrels and a manhole. Open the manhole and go inside the tunnel. Follow that and the family is at the end.

Been through there already and no Family. :shrug: At this point, I'm starting to consider just killing Evan and Lucy, and letting this mythical gang do whatever they want with the West's kid.

Tarantino 11-17-08 01:22 AM

A raider that was following me killed Evan at the gate to his town...and I got bad karma from the town! So I just decided to be evil and I murdered the entire town.

Since then, I've been as evil as possible...stealing from and killing those who I was done with.

= J

jonw9 11-17-08 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by bdshort (Post 9076535)
jonw9: After getting the scrounger perk, I'm not hurting for ammo... I have more grenades and mines than I know what to do with... I use them just to get rid of the weight. Only weapon I'm hurting for ammo on is the sniper rifle. Still havent gone to the location that supposedly has a .44 hunting rifle! Not hurting for caps either, I must have near 7000 right now and I'm sure that'll go up.

The .44 rifle is the bomb! I am tearing stuff up with that. Hidden, with command and finesse, I took the head off a 3 story tall Super Human Behemoth.
Just crouched in a hall (hidden) and went into VATS.

I have scrounger too. I take all the ammo I can, since it weight nothing. I have a problem by grabbing a mini-gun and carrying it around until I get overencumbered, then dropping it. Oh, and the 50 packs of Mentats! :lol:

chuckd21 11-17-08 09:13 AM

I started playing this over the weekend. I'm hoping it's like Mass Effect in that after all this talky-talky BS, the game gets going proper.

Wandering around Megaton I've been incredibly tempted just to set off that bomb and be done with these people...

timewaster 11-17-08 09:21 AM

anyone do the "Head of State" quest?
It seems bugged.

Spoiler:


Spoiler:


I am supposed to help Hannibal and his group kill the slavers.
But they don't seem to want to leave the compound.
I tried waiting hours and they still won't leave.


JasonF 11-17-08 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by timewaster (Post 9077088)
anyone do the "Head of State" quest?
It seems bugged.

Spoiler:


Spoiler:


I am supposed to help Hannibal and his group kill the slavers.
But they don't seem to want to leave the compound.
I tried waiting hours and they still won't leave.


I think by "help us do this," they mean "you do this and we'll hang out here and wait for you to tell us that it's done."

Raul3 11-17-08 02:35 PM

Yeah, this game is long. I've spent 26 hours, Level 8 and just i've just completed 7 missions!
I'm just starting to explore DC and just killed my first behemoth, that was a pain in the ass.
Well, at least I already completed the Wasteland Survival Guide mission.

Ghym 11-17-08 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Cosmic Bus (Post 9076136)
I've been in those tunnels a number of times... They were loaded with booby traps, which made me think the Family was there, but there's no one to be found.

Spoiler:
They're in there. I missed them at first too. If you are in the tunnel, going toward the railyard, there is a tunnel toward the end. I think it was just before it starts going up toward the trainyard exit. I believe it was on the left, and curved around a little. I think I missed it at first because there was a train car there and I thought I couldn't go that way. They were down at the end of that tunnel.

Noonan 11-17-08 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ghym (Post 9077851)
Spoiler:
They're in there. I missed them at first too. If you are in the tunnel, going toward the railyard, there is a tunnel toward the end. I think it was just before it starts going up toward the trainyard exit. I believe it was on the left, and curved around a little. I think I missed it at first because there was a train car there and I thought I couldn't go that way. They were down at the end of that tunnel.

This is correct. I had the same issue. If you enter from the train yard there will be a left turn that will take you down another tunnel not far from the entrance. Just look at your map when you get into the subway.

Tuan Jim 11-17-08 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 9077805)
Yeah, this game is long. I've spent 26 hours, Level 8 and just i've just completed 7 missions!
I'm just starting to explore DC and just killed my first behemoth, that was a pain in the ass.
Well, at least I already completed the Wasteland Survival Guide mission.

That Behemoth (main story mission?) is what makes me think that some of the enemies do level with you. I took him out at lvl 16 and he was pretty tough at the time given my vastly increased weapons damage ratings. - btw - at lvl 7 were the guys with him (or in the yard before he showed up) Super Mutant Masters or different enemies?

MichaelMeyers 11-17-08 05:24 PM

i just started this game over the past day or two and its almost overwhelming...I'm still hanging around Megaton and doing random quests before I blow up the town (trying to resist the urge to do it earlier)....

flashburn 11-18-08 07:40 AM

Can you get the 'Collect all Bobblehead" achievements by collecting them all through multiple saves/playthroughs? Apparently I missed a couple that I can no longer get.

Raul3 11-18-08 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Tuan Jim (Post 9078089)
That Behemoth (main story mission?) is what makes me think that some of the enemies do level with you. I took him out at lvl 16 and he was pretty tough at the time given my vastly increased weapons damage ratings. - btw - at lvl 7 were the guys with him (or in the yard before he showed up) Super Mutant Masters or different enemies?

yes, there were like 3 or 4 super mutants there in the yard before he showed up. I had to clean another building full of super mutants first too.

So, I'm at The Mall now, and it's a pain in the ass with all the super mutants. I almost died I had to use a sneak boy pack until I was far away from everyone and then just fast traveled back to my home in Megaton. I'll need to cure myself, get a good arsenal and then clean the place from mutants.

timewaster 11-18-08 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9077136)
I think by "help us do this," they mean "you do this and we'll hang out here and wait for you to tell us that it's done."

so you are supposed to kill all of them by yourself without any help?
According to this walkthru, they are supposed to help you.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Head_of_State

TimeandTide 11-18-08 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by MichaelMeyers (Post 9078135)
i just started this game over the past day or two and its almost overwhelming...I'm still hanging around Megaton and doing random quests before I blow up the town (trying to resist the urge to do it earlier)....

Same here. I picked it up yesterday and I'm already overwhelmed by the many side quests that keep popping up. I'm actually a little hesitant to leave the safe confines of Megaton and start exploring what I'm reading is a HUGE world.

foxdvd 11-18-08 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by TimeandTide (Post 9080430)
Same here. I picked it up yesterday and I'm already overwhelmed by the many side quests that keep popping up. I'm actually a little hesitant to leave the safe confines of Megaton and start exploring what I'm reading is a HUGE world.


The trick I find with this is to cont to pick up side quests, but focus on one quest at a time and set out to finish it. Explore while doing it but stick to each quest at a time. After a while you will build up your fast travel points, and the game becomes second nature.

Tuan Jim 11-19-08 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by timewaster (Post 9079223)
so you are supposed to kill all of them by yourself without any help?
According to this walkthru, they are supposed to help you.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Head_of_State

I dunno. When you take the quest, they clearly don't follow you out the door.

Hold on a second:

Spoiler:
When you explored the ruins and found that there weren't any supermutants left, did you also go ahead and kill all the slavers who were present, get rid of their traps, etc? Or did you just verify no mutants and leave? I explored, verified, and killed everyone in the building, then went back, told them. They said they'd meet me there, so I fast traveled back (again) to the monument, and started walking towards the metro station when they showed up coming from that direction.


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