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Matthew Chmiel 06-27-13 01:48 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11745707)
It doesn't seem like it's for a lack of trying. iD has struggled the last decade... they make cool looking tech, but wrapping it together in a game has been less then great.

Bethesda has been in control of the properties for a few years now. Bethesda has done nothing in terms of reigning in iD, thus why nothing has happened with the game in years. With the head of iD now gone, this might be the best time to revolutionize both franchises once and for all.

fumanstan 06-27-13 02:50 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11746022)
Bethesda has been in control of the properties for a few years now. Bethesda has done nothing in terms of reigning in iD, thus why nothing has happened with the game in years. With the head of iD now gone, this might be the best time to revolutionize both franchises once and for all.

Yeah, but I imagine they wanted to let iD as a studio do their own thing because of past successes and not step on their toes. Although after Rage and the trouble getting Doom 4 off the ground, now seems like the right time to do it.

K&AJones 07-18-14 10:44 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Thought a drag this topic up from the dead since apparently Doom 4 has made a huge impression at the recent QuakeCon. those of us who preordered Wolfenstein: The New Order got a Doom Beta shot which the date is still up in the air. But Gamepur has a article up about the game and comments from those who saw the 10 minute demo that sounds like the game is on the right track...

DOOM will run at 1080p/60 FPS on PS4/Xbox One, QuakeCon Demo Footage Details Leaked, "Gruesome and Violent"

Bethesda showcased around 10 minutes of DOOM footage and audience were amazed with the stunning graphics/visuals details. As per the details shared by our friend at VentureBeat, DOOM on Playstation 4, Xbox One will run at 1080p/60 FPS in order to emulate the same fast-paced thrills of the original DOOM title released way back in 1993.

Here is what Bethesda's Marty Stratton says about this new DOOM at the event:

"Everyone at Id is excited to finally show you what in the hell do *you* need to be told about the heritage and legacy of DOOM?"

"Doom is an origin game, about fast, FAST paced combat. It's about amazing guns and blood and gore and gibs. It's the Doom game that we want to make and what you want to play"

This new DOOM is powered by id Tech 6 and is build from scratch for Playstation 4, Xbox One and PC. Here are the impressions of DOOM footage that was showcased at Quakecon 2014:


"I don't recall seeing a more gruesome and violent game demo in my entire life"

"There's huge variety of enemies on display. Small demons swarming with Giant Bullet Sponges"

'A demon just ripped a player's arms off and beat him to death with them. The room is breaking out into a standing ovation"

'Doesn't look like Health regenerates. Enemies drop health when you squish them"

'A new twist in finding the Yellow Keycard; tear off a corpse's arm and use it to open a handprint scanner"

"A key feature will be stunning your enemies with a shot and then smashing their face with your boots"

http://www.gamepur.com/news/15482-do...ls-leaked.html

fumanstan 07-18-14 11:54 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Apparently they were super secret and made sure no one was taking pictures or video of the footage. Also, the game is just called Doom and not Doom 4 or anything.

wlj 07-18-14 12:18 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
damn, i want to see this video :(

Matthew Chmiel 07-18-14 02:46 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 12172772)
DOOM will run at 1080p/60 FPS on PS4/Xbox One, QuakeCon Demo Footage Details Leaked, "Gruesome and Violent"

No shit? The game is using the same engine (iD Tech 5) that Wolfenstein: The New Order used and that game hit 1080p/60 with zero problems on PS4 and Xbox One.

Show me some gameplay, dammit.

fumanstan 07-18-14 04:00 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 12173055)
No shit? The game is using the same engine (iD Tech 5) that Wolfenstein: The New Order used and that game hit 1080p/60 with zero problems on PS4 and Xbox One.

No it's not, it's using iD Tech 6. Reading the rest of the article would have been a good idea.

Music 07-18-14 04:34 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
:lol:

K&AJones 07-18-14 04:57 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
I was reading a bit on the coverage of it on Gamespot ...

You'll be using melee combat a lot, and combat is brutal. Id is designing crazy enemies and weapons, and you'll be able to carry around a large arsenal "all at the same time," executive producer Marty Stratton said.

fumanstan 05-18-15 10:08 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Teaser, guess we'll see a big reveal during E3.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/f3UpX1CMEMQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Solid Snake 05-18-15 10:40 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Is this the 2nd remake of Doom or where are we?

ultravio1et 05-19-15 10:30 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12484788)
Is this the 2nd remake of Doom or where are we?

2nd? are you counting the N64 version

starseed1981 05-19-15 10:36 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by ultravio1et (Post 12485915)
2nd? are you counting the N64 version

Doom 3 was a remake of Doom 1.

kgrogers1979 05-19-15 10:41 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by starseed1981 (Post 12485919)
Doom 3 was a remake of Doom 1.

Then why does it have a "3" in the title? That makes no sense.

There were homages to the original Doom in Doom 3, but I don't think it was a full on remake.

starseed1981 05-19-15 10:45 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 12485929)
Then why does it have a "3" in the title? That makes no sense.

There were homages to the original Doom in Doom 3, but I don't think it was a full on remake.

It was a "re-telling" of the same story if I remember correctly. There were alot of issues around it. Cormac said that story doesn't matter in games, etc etc

ultravio1et 05-19-15 10:49 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
this is why i mentioned the N64 version as it was completely re-done, like Doom 3

Solid Snake 05-19-15 11:59 AM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
I've only played Doom 3 all the way. And like a bit of Doom 1. But... I don't think story was all that important to them.

As far as I remember from it's release... it was a remake of Doom 1. Changed it up essentially but the same story.

fumanstan 05-19-15 12:05 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Doom 3 wasn't really a "remake" of the original Doom, as that to me implies the same game as the original but with updated graphics. And yes, i'm being picky about the terminology! But yeah, i'd call Doom 3 a reboot of the story.

Although it sounds like this will be another reboot.

kgrogers1979 05-19-15 12:10 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12486037)
I've only played Doom 3 all the way. And like a bit of Doom 1. But... I don't think story was all that important to them.

As far as I remember from it's release... it was a remake of Doom 1. Changed it up essentially but the same story.

Doom has about as much story as Pong or Pac-Man.

All the early FPS games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem, etc had very little-to-no story.

Half-Life, released in 1998, blew everyone's mind for being the first FPS game to have an actual story. Although Half-Life is rather basic by today's standards, it was incredibly revolutionary back in the late 90s.

ultravio1et 05-19-15 12:17 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 12486055)
Doom has about as much story as Pong or Pac-Man.

All the early FPS games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem, etc had very little-to-no story.

Half-Life, released in 1998, blew everyone's mind for being the first FPS game to have an actual story. Although Half-Life is rather basic by today's standards, it was incredibly revolutionary back in the late 90s.

your forgetting Goldeneye released the year before

RichC2 05-19-15 12:28 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Doom 64 was my favorite of the Dooms, but yeah it's considered a direct sequel to the first Doom. I know Doom 3 was supposed to be but it felt dramatically different than the original as well. But since none of that worked they're just saying screw it and starting fresh.

I'm good with that.


Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 12486055)
Doom has about as much story as Pong or Pac-Man.

All the early FPS games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem, etc had very little-to-no story.

Half-Life, released in 1998, blew everyone's mind for being the first FPS game to have an actual story. Although Half-Life is rather basic by today's standards, it was incredibly revolutionary back in the late 90s.

Doom had more story than Pong or Pac-man, but it wasn't about the story telling like many games are today.

And I think by Half-Life you meant System Shock, released in 1994.

fumanstan 05-19-15 12:30 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
Kotaku posted what appears to be a cinematic from the scrapped version of Doom 4 they were working on before restarting that project.

http://kotaku.com/doom-4s-earlier-sc...ent-1705364162

KingSmoth 05-19-15 05:53 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 
I can't wait to see the E3 reveal!
That cinematic on kotaku is pretty interesting, and does correlate with the leaked images from a few years ago. It is a departure from the world of DOOM that we do know, but does make me think of the human resistance of the 90's DOOM novels.

dugan 05-19-15 06:01 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by starseed1981 (Post 12485938)
It was a "re-telling" of the same story if I remember correctly. There were alot of issues around it. Cormac said that story doesn't matter in games, etc etc

"Story in games is like story in porn", I think is the way he put it.

kgrogers1979 05-19-15 06:13 PM

re: DOOM (5/13/2016: XB1, PS4, PC)
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12486090)
Doom had more story than Pong or Pac-man, but it wasn't about the story telling like many games are today.

I didn't mean it literally. It was hyperbole. Doom had a story, but it was very flimsy. A more literal comparison would be to compare it to Super Mario Bros. Mario has a story, but it's very very flimsy.



Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12486090)
And I think by Half-Life you meant System Shock, released in 1994.

System Shock wasn't an FPS. FPS stands for first person shooter. System Shock is first person, but not so much shooting. Calling System Shock an FPS is like calling Thief an FPS. Thief was a first person game, but it revolved around stealth and avoiding fighting.


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