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Old 06-29-07 | 01:00 PM
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Being on my third 360, I don't disagree, I also think it's bullshit.

I'm just trying to see it from their perspective. Maybe if they addressed it a few months back, but I just revealing it all right now would be detrimental in their campaign to "defeat" Sony.
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:04 PM
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I won't argue about your assessment of their perspective. Obviously THEY know its a problem and you're right about it not being good for them...


but essentially, their idea of it being swept under the carpet is absurd, considering how many customers were fucked over by this
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
I won't argue about your assessment of their perspective. Obviously THEY know its a problem and you're right about it not being good for them...


but essentially, their idea of it being swept under the carpet is absurd, considering how many customers were fucked over by this

Just so I understand--how were YOU fucked more than me? Did you lose money or were just 'grounded' from playing your little xbox360?
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:34 PM
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who said I WAS fucked more than you?


you say 'grounded', as if you assume I'm some kind of teenager, which would inadvertently place you on a higher moral ground or something....
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
who said I WAS fucked more than you?


you say 'grounded', as if you assume I'm some kind of teenager, which would inadvertently place you on a higher moral ground or something....
Im flattered, please I want you to think of me as a normal guy. You just sound really emotional about the subject. I was wondering if you were one of the people that MS had really hurt financially or something over the broken xbox fiasco. I too, have had to send in my xbox but at no great emotional/financial cost, thank God.
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:41 PM
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me personally, not really. I've always found 'other' methods to cut the wait time down when needing a replacement.

I think the worst I've had from the problems that really affected me was when the damn thing ate 2 of my games.

I'm more put off about the fact that they neglect the problem as opposed to them having a problem in the first place
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:41 PM
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Just so I understand--how were YOU fucked more than me? Did you lose money or were just 'grounded' from playing your little xbox360?
Yea, where did he said he was F'd more than you?
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:43 PM
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i think it was just the tone that he extrapolated from the post, not really the one I was going for, though
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:45 PM
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The fact is there's an obvious manufacturing defect that they fail to publicly address. Some of you may trivialize it because it is a "toy", but the fact remains that it is inexcusable to most consumers.

It sure would go a long way for people like me that don't think buying an extended warranty should be par for the course if Microsoft would just come out and say there's a problem and that they're working on fixing the current production line.
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Old 06-29-07 | 01:47 PM
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that's the basic gist of it
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Old 06-29-07 | 02:10 PM
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Yea, where did he said he was F'd more than you?
I was kind of hoping he had a reason for more of a grudge against MS--financially or something. I think our mission to get MS to acknowledge their flawed processes and business model, not to mention shoddy workmanship, QC, etc. would be to have one gamer who stands out as an 'average good hearted guy' who was wronged the most. His story would hit the blogs better than others and spread like wildfire. A lot more meaningful to the christmas shoppers than the RLOD.
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Old 06-29-07 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Save Ferris
I think our mission to get MS to acknowledge their flawed processes and business model, not to mention shoddy workmanship, QC, etc. would be to have one gamer who stands out as an 'average good hearted guy' who was wronged the most. His story would hit the blogs better than others and spread like wildfire. A lot more meaningful to the christmas shoppers than the RLOD.
You mean this guy? (11 broken 360's)
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Old 06-29-07 | 02:13 PM
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well, I'm sure I could provide a story from my brother in law that would be more along those lines

but I'll spare you the littany
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Old 06-29-07 | 02:15 PM
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I cant believe they think they can shake this off. This has to be hitting their bottom line over there.
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Old 06-29-07 | 02:24 PM
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instead of returning my 360 for a new one


i had my friend swap it out for a brand new one. I'm sure they saved me at least a few coffin-calls to M$
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Old 06-29-07 | 02:44 PM
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Does Xbox Live "go down" from time to time?
I can't connect right now.
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Old 06-29-07 | 03:55 PM
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My stepdad scored Gears for $10 today at a pawn shop, but I am afraid to try it because of the rumors of the red rings appearing after Gears was played.

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Old 06-29-07 | 04:11 PM
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Does Xbox Live "go down" from time to time?
If you're referring to occasional system inturruptions for updates, then yes. If you're referring to something else, then no, but what do you expect for only $50 a year?
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Old 06-29-07 | 04:14 PM
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Boring mechanics, stale gameplay. The vehicles handled poorly, and the robots didn't have nearly enough moves to be interesting.
So it's crappy like the previous Transformers game that I have? great
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Old 06-30-07 | 10:30 AM
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Hour of Victory gets a 2.0 (out of 10) on Gamespot

Hour of Victory is practically broken and has no business being on shelves in its current state.

The Good
* Thankfully, no one is forcing you to play this game.

The Bad
* Entire game is full of bugs, ranging from clipping issues to full-on crashes
* Ugly graphics make character faces look like hideous zombies
* Easy, short levels do not give the game lasting value.

With a generic name that sounds like it was pulled out of a hat full of "World War II" words, it's easy to feel like Midway's Hour of Victory is nothing more than a shameless attempt to trick people who already purchased Call of Duty or Medal of Honor games. But Hour of Victory utterly fails at this attempt. On the disc lies a world where tanks clip through the ground, where the game randomly decides to stop working, and where clubbing someone with the back-end of a rifle is far more effective than actually firing it. Hour of Victory is broken in several spectacular ways; and no one, under any circumstances, should play this game.
Damn that's harsh.


Hour of Victory gets a slightly better review on IGN (5.7 out of 10)

Hour of Victory would have been a great Xbox game if released a few years back. But we’re on the next generation of consoles now. That means we expect AI that is at least competent and textures that aren’t just brown smudges. Hour of Victory is nothing more than a poor knock-off of Call of Duty. It’s hardly worth your time. Though, if you don’t mind the weak AI and boring level design, you can probably get a few moments of joy from Hour of Victory. Like when you return it to EB for store credit. That sure put a smile on my face.

6.0 Presentation
The story has some promise, but nFusion didn’t do much with it in the end. The menus and features are barebones.
5.0 Graphics
War is hell and hell doesn't look so good.
6.0 Sound
The music seems like it could have come from any other WWII game, but it works well enough. The sound effects and voice acting are sub-par.
6.0 Gameplay
There’s nothing special about Hour of Victory. It works, but that’s about all it has going for it.
4.0 Lasting Appeal
The campaign is only 5-6 hours long and the multiplayer isn’t worthy of even a free Xbox Live subscription.
5.7 OVERALL

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Old 06-30-07 | 10:56 AM
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You see, this is what I don't understand. How are games with issues like this released?
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Old 06-30-07 | 11:15 AM
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You see, this is what I don't understand. How are games with issues like this released?
Most of the developers that make games like this are scammers looking to make a quick buck on casual gamers and gamers who don't read reviews. It's not like the developers spent tons of time and money actually making a quality game, so selling even a few copies can make a profit.

But how do these games ever get through Sony's, Nintendo's, and Microsoft's approval process? They claim that they are strict on approving games, so how do turds like this slip through?
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Old 06-30-07 | 11:40 AM
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Most of the developers that make games like this are scammers looking to make a quick buck on casual gamers and gamers who don't read reviews. It's not like the developers spent tons of time and money actually making a quality game, so selling even a few copies can make a profit.

But how do these games ever get through Sony's, Nintendo's, and Microsoft's approval process? They claim that they are strict on approving games, so how do turds like this slip through?
Does Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo actually have that much of a say in what games are released for their systems? Other then unreleased AO games like the Manhunt issue, I don't think they'll block games just for being crappy, do they?

Another thing to think about is that a lot of games start out being made by fledgling developers trying to make something bigger then they're capable of. By the time their budget is used up, the game is only halfway done and publishers will release unfinished games just to recoup any costs rather then pump more money into a project.
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Old 06-30-07 | 12:46 PM
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Does Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo actually have that much of a say in what games are released for their systems? Other then unreleased AO games like the Manhunt issue, I don't think they'll block games just for being crappy, do they?
I know Nintendo was famous for releasing a smaller amount of higher quality games than its competitors in the late 80's and 90's. Considering what kind of great fun is on the DS and Wii now, that's obviously no longer the case.
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Old 06-30-07 | 03:31 PM
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and I just downloaded the demo, thanks for saving me the torture *deletes*
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