Price Drops and Upgrades; Speculation and Confirmation - All Platforms
03-23-07 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
It would have be a fatal blow to the PS3 in my opinion (or "massive damage" as the internet nerds say).
I am not too sure of this as I don't pay much attention to the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, but isn't Blu-ray supposed to have some pretty big price drops around Christmas time this year? I thought I read that Blu-ray players could drop as low as $300. If that is true, then wouldn't it also be possible for the PS3 to have a big price drop at the end of the year too?
03-23-07 | 11:50 PM
#54
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Originally Posted by taffer
Actually it was Sony themselves that started the "massive damage" craze with their speech about their new innovations like enemies with weak spots you could hit for massive damage. The internet nerds are just making fun of that whole speech.
I am not too sure of this as I don't pay much attention to the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, but isn't Blu-ray supposed to have some pretty big price drops around Christmas time this year? I thought I read that Blu-ray players could drop as low as $300. If that is true, then wouldn't it also be possible for the PS3 to have a big price drop at the end of the year too?
I am not too sure of this as I don't pay much attention to the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, but isn't Blu-ray supposed to have some pretty big price drops around Christmas time this year? I thought I read that Blu-ray players could drop as low as $300. If that is true, then wouldn't it also be possible for the PS3 to have a big price drop at the end of the year too?
I wonder though. IF (and it's a big if) PS3 fails... what chance does Blu Ray have at staying dominant? It's seems to me that the only reason for Blu Ray's dominance is that PS3 owners are buying Blu Ray movies. What happens IF PS3 flops? Is it just a bunch of people with Beta movies they can't watch at their friend's house?
03-24-07 | 05:49 AM
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A better move for MS would be to enable saving to an external HDD for the 360, and add a HD drive with HDMI for a minimal price increase, say, about the price of the HD DVD add on drive.
That would be a kick in the nuts to Sony. Not that I'm a fanboy of one system over the other, but the ability to copy to and from an external drive is IMO the only thing going for the PS3 that MS need to catch up with.
That would be a kick in the nuts to Sony. Not that I'm a fanboy of one system over the other, but the ability to copy to and from an external drive is IMO the only thing going for the PS3 that MS need to catch up with.
03-24-07 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgingCars
Just remember, that better technology doesn't mean anything if it lacks support.
03-24-07 | 10:20 AM
#58
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Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
PSP dropped in price by $50 yesterday, Nintendo is expected to respond by selling more DS's.
03-24-07 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by taffer
Actually it was Sony themselves that started the "massive damage" craze with their speech about their new innovations like enemies with weak spots you could hit for massive damage. The internet nerds are just making fun of that whole speech.
I am not too sure of this as I don't pay much attention to the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, but isn't Blu-ray supposed to have some pretty big price drops around Christmas time this year? I thought I read that Blu-ray players could drop as low as $300. If that is true, then wouldn't it also be possible for the PS3 to have a big price drop at the end of the year too?
I am not too sure of this as I don't pay much attention to the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, but isn't Blu-ray supposed to have some pretty big price drops around Christmas time this year? I thought I read that Blu-ray players could drop as low as $300. If that is true, then wouldn't it also be possible for the PS3 to have a big price drop at the end of the year too?
03-24-07 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Goldblum
Seems like an odd argument to make against Bluray to me.
03-25-07 | 01:29 AM
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I still don't know how much impact PS3 has on blu ray media sales. Anyone remember the UMD format? It was questionable at first but then started selling like hotcakes....for a few months then took an abysmal turn for the worse and studios have already pulled out of this format. Now there is much more at stake here for blu ray and hddvd but still...early sales are just that, early sales. Definately not an indicator for a clear winner.
03-25-07 | 08:33 AM
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Exactly. Once gamers have other things to buy for their system, ahem games, I suspect a dip in sales.
A friend of mine stated as much. He bought it for gaming and is only buying movies because there are no games and said that will stop once games start arriving. I doubt he is the only one buying "comfort food"(BR movies) to justify the purchase.
A friend of mine stated as much. He bought it for gaming and is only buying movies because there are no games and said that will stop once games start arriving. I doubt he is the only one buying "comfort food"(BR movies) to justify the purchase.
03-25-07 | 09:38 AM
#64
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Originally Posted by tanman
I still don't know how much impact PS3 has on blu ray media sales. Anyone remember the UMD format? It was questionable at first but then started selling like hotcakes....for a few months then took an abysmal turn for the worse and studios have already pulled out of this format. Now there is much more at stake here for blu ray and hddvd but still...early sales are just that, early sales. Definately not an indicator for a clear winner.
UMDs sold well during the first part of the PSP's life because there were few games out for it and people wanted SOMETHING to play on it, the response was an overwhelmeing amount of releases, resulting in a glut in the market, stagnant UMD sales (for them to have been priced more than dvds is crazy) and loss of support for the format, releases for the format are few and far between now. I think Blu Ray will fare better than that though
04-03-07 | 05:24 PM
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PSP is now $169.99
IMO It's about time they had a price cut.
IMO It's about time they had a price cut.
04-05-07 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
As would I. 
Er, once I get (another) HDTV, that is.
Er, once I get (another) HDTV, that is.Pixy, you'll have to excuse but I'm a little dense. Do you mean you need another HDTV because you can't have your Wii and 360 hooked up at the same time or that another HDTV is your next big purchase?
I really wish the Premium would have dropped to $300 as I would have snatched one up right away. It's not even that I can't afford the $400, and I think the 360 is worth that, but something deep inside is making it hard for me to shell out the money. $300 seems to be the sweet spot...which is comical because I remember thinking the PS2 was insane to ask that much when it first came out. What a difference a few years makes, eh?
No bid deal though because the longer I wait, the more games come down in price, which is fine by me.
04-05-07 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Pixy, you'll have to excuse but I'm a little dense. Do you mean you need another HDTV because you can't have your Wii and 360 hooked up at the same time or that another HDTV is your next big purchase?
04-19-07 | 11:06 AM
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Another little hint of a price drop. Looks like it is happening sooner then I thought. Maybe when MS drops the price of the Elite to $400?
"A price cut for the PlayStation 3 games console may be in the cards as Sony Corp (NYSE:SNE - news). looks to strengthen the platform and expand its penetration.
Sony said Thursday that both pricing and production volumes are under review as it looks to take its next steps now that the third-generation PlayStation has been launched in Japan, North America, Europe and Australasia. The company stressed a price cut is not imminent, however, meaning it may still be weeks or months away.
Sales of the console have been lackluster in some markets due to the popularity of Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s Wii. The rival console, which features wireless motion-sensitive controllers, surprised many by outselling the PlayStation.
Sony has stuck to its launch estimate of shipping 6 million PlayStation 3s before the end of March, which marks the end of its financial year. The company is due to announce its results for the period along with console shipments in mid-May.
On Thursday Sony also said its European PlayStation operations could see layoffs as part of a restructuring.
Up to 160 jobs could be lost at Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Inc., the Nihon Keizai Shimbun newspaper reported, quoting an e-mail message sent to staff on Monday from company President David Reeves.
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. in Tokyo said its European unit is considering the reinforcement and streamlining of its operations to remain competitive, but that no restructuring has taken place yet.
Sony had already been eyeing cost savings from using a more advanced technology to make the Cell processor, which sits at the heart of the machine. First generation consoles used chips made on a 90-nanometer production process, but Sony will switch soon to chips made on a 65-nanometer line. Those chips are 40 percent smaller and thus cheaper to make.
Sony hasn't said when the 65-nanometer Cell will begin appearing in the PlayStation 3, but in mid-March IBM Corp., another of the companies that makes the processor, said it had begun making the more advanced chip.
In January, when Sony announced its third-quarter earnings, Chief Financial Officer Nobuyuki Oneda ruled out the possibility of price cuts for the PS3 in the near future, but hinted it could happen in two or three years' time. That thinking has apparently been revised."
"A price cut for the PlayStation 3 games console may be in the cards as Sony Corp (NYSE:SNE - news). looks to strengthen the platform and expand its penetration.
Sony said Thursday that both pricing and production volumes are under review as it looks to take its next steps now that the third-generation PlayStation has been launched in Japan, North America, Europe and Australasia. The company stressed a price cut is not imminent, however, meaning it may still be weeks or months away.
Sales of the console have been lackluster in some markets due to the popularity of Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s Wii. The rival console, which features wireless motion-sensitive controllers, surprised many by outselling the PlayStation.
Sony has stuck to its launch estimate of shipping 6 million PlayStation 3s before the end of March, which marks the end of its financial year. The company is due to announce its results for the period along with console shipments in mid-May.
On Thursday Sony also said its European PlayStation operations could see layoffs as part of a restructuring.
Up to 160 jobs could be lost at Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Inc., the Nihon Keizai Shimbun newspaper reported, quoting an e-mail message sent to staff on Monday from company President David Reeves.
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. in Tokyo said its European unit is considering the reinforcement and streamlining of its operations to remain competitive, but that no restructuring has taken place yet.
Sony had already been eyeing cost savings from using a more advanced technology to make the Cell processor, which sits at the heart of the machine. First generation consoles used chips made on a 90-nanometer production process, but Sony will switch soon to chips made on a 65-nanometer line. Those chips are 40 percent smaller and thus cheaper to make.
Sony hasn't said when the 65-nanometer Cell will begin appearing in the PlayStation 3, but in mid-March IBM Corp., another of the companies that makes the processor, said it had begun making the more advanced chip.
In January, when Sony announced its third-quarter earnings, Chief Financial Officer Nobuyuki Oneda ruled out the possibility of price cuts for the PS3 in the near future, but hinted it could happen in two or three years' time. That thinking has apparently been revised."
04-19-07 | 11:52 AM
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Maybe not!
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=13596
Chris
April 19, 2007
Sony: Confusion Over PlayStation 3 Price Cut Comments
Sony has moved to deny reports that the company is considering an early price cut for the PlayStation 3 in North America and Japan, despite comments by Sony president Ryoji Chubachi which appeared to suggest just such a move may be forthcoming.
Chubachi was originally interviewed by British newspaper The Financial Times, in which he stated, "We are re-examining our [PS3] budgeting process in terms of pricing and volume. Sales assumptions change and the market is competitive. We are in the midst of revisiting our strategy for the PS3."
Despite the relatively unambiguous nature of his comments, Sony has moved quickly to refute the story, with spokeswoman Mami Imada saying in a statement that, “PS3 prices and shipment plans for the future should be determined by market trends and competition. Sony currently doesn't have any specific plan to cut the PlayStation 3's price”.
The high price of the PlayStation 3 console has been widely blamed as the primary reason for a perceived lax demand for the hardware. However, the current high cost of manufacturing the console has previously been seen as a serious obstacle to an early price cut by Sony.
Elsewhere, Sony has recently been indicating that its global game group operations may see more 'streamlining measures' such as those recently proposed by SCEE which threatened to cut nearly 10 percent of its workforce.
SCE spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka spoke to Reuters, indicating that "....other regional operations, such as those in the United States and Japan, could also take some streamlining measures," though he adds that "nothing has been decided."
POSTED: 05.41AM PST, 04/19/07 - David Jenkins
Sony: Confusion Over PlayStation 3 Price Cut Comments
Sony has moved to deny reports that the company is considering an early price cut for the PlayStation 3 in North America and Japan, despite comments by Sony president Ryoji Chubachi which appeared to suggest just such a move may be forthcoming.
Chubachi was originally interviewed by British newspaper The Financial Times, in which he stated, "We are re-examining our [PS3] budgeting process in terms of pricing and volume. Sales assumptions change and the market is competitive. We are in the midst of revisiting our strategy for the PS3."
Despite the relatively unambiguous nature of his comments, Sony has moved quickly to refute the story, with spokeswoman Mami Imada saying in a statement that, “PS3 prices and shipment plans for the future should be determined by market trends and competition. Sony currently doesn't have any specific plan to cut the PlayStation 3's price”.
The high price of the PlayStation 3 console has been widely blamed as the primary reason for a perceived lax demand for the hardware. However, the current high cost of manufacturing the console has previously been seen as a serious obstacle to an early price cut by Sony.
Elsewhere, Sony has recently been indicating that its global game group operations may see more 'streamlining measures' such as those recently proposed by SCEE which threatened to cut nearly 10 percent of its workforce.
SCE spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka spoke to Reuters, indicating that "....other regional operations, such as those in the United States and Japan, could also take some streamlining measures," though he adds that "nothing has been decided."
POSTED: 05.41AM PST, 04/19/07 - David Jenkins
Chris
04-19-07 | 11:56 AM
#71
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The denial is smart. You don't want people to know that there may be a price cut in a couple months. Then you certainly will see sales drop.
My guess is that they are planning it though.
My guess is that they are planning it though.
04-19-07 | 12:13 PM
#72
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Well, if Blu-Ray is the big crippling factor in its high cost it seems possible. Aren't $300 stand alone players already planned before the year is out? That seems like a steep difference from the $1000 initial players.
04-19-07 | 12:38 PM
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Sales of the console have been lackluster in some markets due to the popularity of Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s Wii.
Scapegoat. Can't place blame where blame is due... {cough} $600 machine and no games {cough}
