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Old 09-16-06 | 06:39 PM
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Looks like component is out or was never in: Story here
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Old 09-16-06 | 07:21 PM
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Looks like component is out or was never in: Story here
Damn, there goes $40 added to the cost again. Wish Nintendo would make an official statement to clear this up. I don't know if the rep has the 100% final word on it.
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Old 09-16-06 | 07:35 PM
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Old 09-16-06 | 09:04 PM
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How about a bit of fun?

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Old 09-17-06 | 03:20 AM
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Will the 'Cube RGB cable work with the Wii?
Composite will look terrible Surely thats not the only output you can use? The 'Cube only came with composite cables but you could use an RGB cable.
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Old 09-17-06 | 03:31 AM
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The Cube component cables had better work because I went to far too much trouble to get them.
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Old 09-17-06 | 04:13 AM
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Since 'Cube games will work with it, I'm sure some other form of video output must be provided, even if you have to buy something seperate.
I haven't got component output on my set, only composite and RGB.
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Old 09-17-06 | 09:58 AM
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How is it that the "affordable" next-gen console is now going to run me approx $430-450 to get the bundle I want?

Console - 250
Controller - 60
Game - ~50
Component Cables - ~40
Tax - 32.40
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Old 09-17-06 | 10:17 AM
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It's hard to tell for sure, but the slot on the back of the Wii looks an awful lot like the one on my SNES...maybe the old cables will work afterall.
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Old 09-17-06 | 11:19 AM
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The problem is it only has one AV port. The Cube component cables don't have audio outs on them. I see no way they will work on the Wii. That picture is too small for me to tell, but it looks a lot like the component port on the Cube. However, without a second port to hook up audio we are out of luck for using the Cube cable.
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Old 09-17-06 | 11:24 AM
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Oh. Sorry about that. I didn't know that was the case. I figured every Nintendo cable would be more or less the same.
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Old 09-17-06 | 12:01 PM
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Does the Wii Sports disc have full versions of each game on them or it is a demo of each game?
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Old 09-17-06 | 12:17 PM
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Does the Wii Sports disc have full versions of each game on them or it is a demo of each game?
It's the full games. But it remains to be seen how deep they are. They may well be more tech demos for the controller than a full game you'll want to keep coming back to.
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How about a bit of fun?
This is my interpretation of what would happen if Lumines/Meteos creator Tetsuya Mizuguchi worked on the next Tetris.

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The problem is it only has one AV port. The Cube component cables don't have audio outs on them. I see no way they will work on the Wii. That picture is too small for me to tell, but it looks a lot like the component port on the Cube. However, without a second port to hook up audio we are out of luck for using the Cube cable.
Wouldn't you use optical or coax out for sound?
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Wouldn't you use optical or coax out for sound?
Possibly, but only if the cable has some kind of pack with the outputs for those cables (like the X-box advanced A/V pack) as I don't see any of those kind of outputs on the back of the Wii.
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Old 09-17-06 | 04:48 PM
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Awesome. They could make it a "Drumming Hero" with Ringo Starr.

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The problem is it only has one AV port. The Cube component cables don't have audio outs on them. I see no way they will work on the Wii. That picture is too small for me to tell, but it looks a lot like the component port on the Cube. However, without a second port to hook up audio we are out of luck for using the Cube cable.
That orange port looks awfully like an optical slot. I know the Wii doesn't do digital but maybe they are passing PLII through it. I wish Nintendo would clear this matter up. If this is the case I'm still on board, as I can use my GC component cables. If not, I may sit launch out and opt for some 360 games.

See that Nintendo...(echo) I've been with you for every launch but this silly bundle and component nonsense is pushing me away. Not to mention really only one "must own" title, which is identical to the GC one I can get two weeks later. $450 to play [essentially] Gamecube Zelda doesn't sound very appealing right now.
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Old 09-17-06 | 05:07 PM
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Neither the main Nintendo Wii site or wikipedia lists the console as having an optical or coaxial port. Shit.
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Awesome. They could make it a "Drumming Hero" with Ringo Starr.



That orange port looks awfully like an optical slot. I know the Wii doesn't do digital but maybe they are passing PLII through it. I wish Nintendo would clear this matter up. If this is the case I'm still on board, as I can use my GC component cables. If not, I may sit launch out and opt for some 360 games.

See that Nintendo...(echo) I've been with you for every launch but this silly bundle and component nonsense is pushing me away. Not to mention really only one "must own" title, which is identical to the GC one I can get two weeks later. $450 to play [essentially] Gamecube Zelda doesn't sound very appealing right now.
The orange port is for the sensor bar.
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Originally Posted by lopper
How is it that the "affordable" next-gen console is now going to run me approx $430-450 to get the bundle I want?

Console - 250
Controller - 60
Game - ~50
Component Cables - ~40
Tax - 32.40
It's still hundreds cheaper than buying the same setup for the other systems. That makes it affordable to me.
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Old 09-17-06 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by looper
How is it that the "affordable" next-gen console is now going to run me approx $430-450 to get the bundle I want?

Console - 250
Controller - 60
Game - ~50
Component Cables - ~40
Tax - 32.40
You can play that game with the 360 as well:

xbox360 premium: $400
controller: $50 (-$10 difference from Wii)
360 game: $60 (+$10 more than Wii)

You pretty much have to buy the $400 premium pack if you want to save your games . Plus without the premium you can't play online.


No matter which way you justify it, the difference between the Wii and 360 is:

the extra controller price -> $10 extra for the extra Wii controller

and the $150 price difference in the console

and the price margin between games, 360 games being +$10 higher.

This holds the ~$150 margin between the core360 and the wii, for the offline gamer that wants 2 controllers and 1 game. + $40/year xbox live subscription for online gaming.

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Old 09-17-06 | 08:27 PM
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You can play that game with the 360 as well:

xbox360 tard pack: $300
component cables: $40 (same price as Wii)
controller: $50 (-$10 difference from Wii)
360 game: $60 (+$10 more than Wii)

but no online with the tardpack, so...

Even worse you pretty much have to buy the $400 premium pack if you want component cables - it'd be an awfully dumb move to spend $340 on the tard pack + component cables. Plus without the premium you can't play online.


No matter which way you justify it, the only difference between the core 360 is:

the extra controller price -> $10 extra for the extra Wii controller

and the $50 price difference in the console

and the price margin between games, 360 games being +$10 higher.

This creates a ~$40 margin between the core360 and the wii, for the offline gamer.

You also can't play online with the 360 tard pack. Plus you have to pay for your xbox live subscription if you want online.


So realistically the difference is $90 between the 360 and the Wii, plus xbox live fees of $50 a year = $140, plus game price premiums of $10 a game. That's a lot of money.
You're missing something from the equation. A 360 core has no memory card or hard drive. The Wii has built in flash memory. So add another $40-$100 for the 360.
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Old 09-17-06 | 08:32 PM
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You're missing something from the equation. A 360 core has no memory card or hard drive. The Wii has built in flash memory. So add another $40-$100 for the 360.
Oops, just realized that...editiing. That means the core 360 is a moron move...core $300 + component cables $40 + $40 memory card (froogle) = $380.

That made it a lot more simple. The 360 core is still a gimmick. It makes absolutely no sense to buy one unless you really don't care about online gaming and play in SD.

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