Are you completely nuts? I agree that $50 is a big chunk for a game but to imply that gaming is not mainstream is just... out there. The VG industry is more lucrative than the film and music undustries which you compare them to.

BTW, DS games usually top out at $35 and can usually be had for much less, and other titles for the other systems usually get price drops if you can be patient.

Media price is NOT holding gaming back. Why do you fear new technology so?

Sure HD & 5.1 don't mean squat on these old games, I'm just pointing out that you aren't comparing apples(wii) to apples(360) in regards to the pricing scheme.

The only way to justify 5 bucks per game is if they have a online network that enables someone online to play as player 2. Otherwise, i doubt anything other then top tier titles will sell much.

I really hope they have something like this. There are several games that i would only be interested in if i could play them online with other people. For instance Super Mario Kart and the like. While i love the game single player doesn't interest me much. If it was online playable though i would be all over it as soon as possible.

Yeah, but with a DVD you're usually getting around 2 hours worth of original content, maybe more if there are really good bonus features. With a CD, you're typically getting between 30 minutes and an hour. Depending on the length of a book and how fast of a reader you are, you might be getting anywhere from 2 hours to 20 hours.

With a video game, it's not unusual to get at least 15 hours, with some of the best games providing 2 to 3 times that. If you look at it as a ratio of cost to hours of entertainment provided, even brand new $50 games are typically way cheaper than DVDs or CDs.

I agree but you are off on CDs. CDs probably provide as much entertainment as games. They have a lot higher replay factor than any other format you list. So you get far more than a mere 30-60 minutes out of a cd.

Midway was slow to the table but is now onboard the Wii train with 6 titles in the works, two of which are Rampage: Total Destruction & Mortal Kombat: Armageddon.

Ubisoft with Red Steel & Rayman: Raving Rabids has an additional 5 titles in the works for the little system. IGN says the titles of the remaining five will be revealed very soon.

Camelot (Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Golden Sun) are only focusing on PC games for the moment. Nothing on deck for Nintendo.

Jeff, I noticed that Rampage & Mortal Kombat aren't on your release list. Might want to add those when you get a chance. :)

Rampage with a the Wii controller makes me tingle in special places.

The possibilities of punching with the controller t osmash up buildings makes me very happy. Especially if Lizzy is playable.

This turned out to not be true, according to Joystiq: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/01/go...-with-nintendo

Sure, there's nothing officially announced that I'm aware of, but I wouldn't say nothing's on deck. Wii Sports Golf should be fun, but Mario Golf on the Wii should be a freakin' dream.

I see what you're saying, but I was just going off original content. I agree that CDs have the highest replay value. I probably listen to a good cd up to 40 or 50 times, whereas a good DVD might get watched 5 times. I usually only go through a really good book or video game twice, at most.

Well that is certainly good. A Wii RPG in the works? Good for Nintendo.

Yeha, but an RPG from Camelot? Pass!

There was more text in Golden Sun than War & Peace. :grumble:

:lol: I feel that way about Trauma Center.

Here are UbiSoft's Wii Launch titles:

Ubisoft’s Wii Launch Titles:

Blazing Angels®: Squadrons of WW II: As a squadron leader and ace fighter pilot, leverage the Wii controller to experience intense dog fighting in the famous air battles of WW II. Air combat simulation, rating pending.

Far Cry®: As Jack Carver, use the Wii Remote to drive, shoot, slash, jump and climb your way through a rebel-infested tropical hell. First-person action shooter, rating pending.

GT Pro Series: Immerse yourself in the fast-paced action of this exclusive Wii car-racing game and take full advantage of the Wii Remote. Racing game, rating pending.

Open Season™: Allows gamers to relive the humor and adventure of Sony Pictures Animation’s highly anticipated, first feature-length CG animated film. Kids adventure, rating pending.

Monster 4X4 World Circuit: Use the Wii Remote to perform spectacular stunts, jump and race the most powerful Monster Trucks, and go head-to-head in pulse-pounding off-road competitions all over the world. Truck racing, rating pending.

Rayman Raving Rabbids™: Experience the return of Rayman when his world is threatened by a devastating invasion of crazed, out-of-control bunnies. Whether it be crazy Kung-Fu action or competing in the cow toss, players will use the Wii Remote in the most imaginative and innovative ways possible to defeat these whacky rabbids. Action-adventure, rating pending.

Red Steel™: This Wii exclusive title takes place in modern-day Japan and challenges players to master both the ancient art of the katana and the sophisticated technology of modern firearms. First-person action, rating pending.

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I hate when I save after 5 minutes of game time, and none of it was gameplay! Then another 5 minutes pass, and it was all text too! Why ask me to save???

I especially love the chapters that don't allow a save right before operation. You go through 5 minutes of text before you botch the operation and have to sit through it again. What a pain in the ass.

Hit select. I discovered that because of the the Sin Outbreak mission. I agree it is a pain in the ass.

Red Steel is rumored to be delayed... And, I'm sorry. Blazing Angels? Far Cry?

You might as well release King Kong for the Wii. Hey Ubi, got any other 3-year old IP that can be dusted off?

I guess it's better than nothing.

Assuming you can only purchase...

The problem is, with a bad CD, you're tired of it after an hour or two, and you're out $7-$15.

With a bad book, you're tired of it after an hour or two, and you're out $10-$20.

With a bad DVD, you're tired of it after an hour or two, and you're out $5-$20.

With a bad game, you're tired of it after an hour or two, and you're out $40-60.

If my return on investment with all games was what I got out of, say, Halo 2, or Oblivion, or Super Mario World, I would buy every game. Sadly, that's not the case.

That's a good point. The other thing that makes the comparison's faulty is that it assumes that the entertainment is equal. i.e. that an hour of a movie is equal to an hour of gaming in a persons level of enjoyment.

But that isn't the case, and is something that will vary from person to person. I enjoy movies and music much more than gaming, so I'm willing to pay more per hour for DVDs than for games.

Just posting the press as I get it :) This one came in this morning...so who knows.

That's true, but it only really means that a little more effort should be put into the purchase decision with games. If you only buy ones you have a very high probability of enjoying, I don't think the $40 - $60 price tag results in getting any less for your dollar.

I don't really think it affects the comparison that much. Let's say a restaurant sells a 1 lb chicken sandwich for $10, or 4 oz. mini-burgers for $2.50 each. You might enjoy one more than the other, but it doesn't change the fact that you're getting about the same amount of food for your money. Even if I vastly preferred the mini-burgers, I wouldn't claim the chicken sandwich was an overpriced ripoff.

I guess I just feel like I spent my money better at $2 per hour for a 2 hour $20 dvd than at $0.40 per hour for a 20 hour $50 game as I'll enjoy those 2 hours of the movie more than any 2 hours of the game assuming both are high quality.

Thus the price per hour thing just doesn't apply to my logic as I have very limited free time and want to make the most of it. Thus I don't balk at paying a higher per hour rate for something I find more entertaining.

But at anyrate, enough of this off topic price ratio crap. Back to discussing the Wii. :D

One more thing about the pricing. What matters isn't what you are willing to pay; it's what the market is willing to bear. Like it or not, the market has decided that $50 is not unreasonable. Personally, I think $50 is too much to pay for a portable game and that's why I don't have a PSP, but I understand that they do cost more to develop and people are willing to buy PSP games for $50.

Another thing to remember is that comparing games to movies is not a vaild comparison. Movies have several different sources of revenue: theatrical release, home video sales and rentals, pay per view, and cable and network television. Games, on the other hand, rely solely on sales of new copies.

NOW back to the Wii discussion...