Where is this imperial city shack you speak of? Is it the same as that shack behind the waterfront? I was thinking about buying that one.

That is exactly the one. I adore that shack because it is in the perfect place to go to when wearing a certain mask that gets you arrested but lets you carry large amounts of loot.

Man, that is brilliant. I am going to do that every time I fight now. Thanks for the tip!

Who do you talk to for the Waterfront shack?

In the market district there is an Imperial Bureau of Living or something like that. It's the only one that isn't a store. The lady in there offers it for $2,000.

Man this game is crazy. I put it in for a bit last night and planned on getting the Bravil mage's reccomendation, and I spent 2 hours messing around doing stuff like letting a rat jump into me for the armor and blocking skills.

I was in a dungeon and the was some lady pickpocket down there, I would sneak and hit her with an arrow, and she would come at me hard and smoke me 2-3 strickes, and that was WITH blocking. Should I save her for later, or will she get stronger as I do? I wish I knoew the name, but I don't recall, other than it was.

I just found in the guide it was Umbra in Vindasel (Vin Diesel?) which is along the road to Bravil, if the waterfront were an arrow, it would be pointing at the place, just on the otherside of the water. Apparently it is part of a Daedric quest , which I guess I haven't even heard of yet...

I've been working on the Dark Brotherhood quests. I just reached eliminator rank. I cracked my first hard lock last night, manually. I think I finally got the timing right. I noticed that when the pin is in just the right position it makes a slightly different sound. I can almost unlock them now without even watching the screen.

Don't train. It won't help your endurance stat.

Ive started those too....When I joined and entered the old house...

What does everyone consider beating this game? I think this is what I am going to do...

1. Main quest - so far, ive closed about 5 or 6 gates (the first was the hardest)
2. Fighters Guild - im master
3. Mage Guild - im arch mage
4. Arena - im grand champion
5. Thieves Guild - just started
6. Dark BH - just started
7. Daedric Quests - done a few of them

Ive also done alot of misc quests, but I probably will just play until all of those things that I mentioned are completed. Am I missing anything?? Is there actually a point where the game ends??

Right now, im at about 80hrs, level 27.

Nope, the game never ends. I guess you can get to a point where you've completed every available quest but the game will still go on. I've completed pretty much everything except the fighters guild and some random quests from the towns.

Don't worry RockStrongo, just keep the DB storyline up. That Orc will get his comeuppance.

Exxxcellent!

It is actually my fav mission in the entire storyline of the game (that i have done so far).

That one was fun. But I still enjoyed "Whodunnit" better.. But I had fun with that one.

Found a nice helmet today for some deep sea diving.
Waterbreathing, detect life 20 ft and nighteye. Makes it easier to see underwater.

Too late!

I didn't notice that. I'm not too concerned though as I'm trying to bump my Strength right now as opposed to Endurance.

I think I'd still rather have the Expert skill though. Thanks for the heads up. Now that my Int. and Willpower are maxed out, I'll be concentrating more on Endurance.

3 months? Wow. Her parents must live pretty far away.

I would return the disc and get a new one if possible. I've never had a clean disc error message. I've had a few lockups here and there, but no error messages. Sounds like you have a bad disc, and the cache clear thing is meant to fix problems with the information on your hard drive, not the disc itself.

I'm right there with you. Just hit about 136 hours last night and I'm only as far as deciphering the Mythic Brotherhood books in the main quest, I've only stolen about 90gp in stolen goods and only done the mage's staff quest for the guild. I did make Arena Champion.

I've mostly been doing all the miscellaneous quests in all the towns as I tried to get the mage guild reccommendations. Those were kind of fun. Hope I don't get into too much trouble with the main quest stuff...sounds like there will be a lot of group fighting too.

I'm kind of leery about doing the Dark Brotherhood quests though. Not big on murder, even if they are imaginary people.

I did actually finally figure out how to do this stuff manually, but I'm still really hit or miss. So I finally created a spell to open very hard locks and don't worry about it anymore!

I'm acutally kind of looking forward to restarting this game again and being forced to do things the hard way again. Especially knowing everything I do now about the game and how all the stats and stuff work.

I'm happy with my Grand Ring of Illumination i found that has like 50 feet of light cast on it. Everywhere i walk there is this bright green glow. I like to pretend i'm an angel or something

Or you could pretend you work in a nuclear power plant

Ive closed about 6 Oblivion gates I think (maybe more). Honestly, the first one was the hardest for me....Maybe some of the ones later will be hard too, but they really havent been as bad since the first.

Granted, my characters is kick ass right now. Level 27. Strength is around 85 or so (100+ with enchanted armor).

So, most enemies in oblivion, I can kill with 3 sometimes 4 swings of my sword (I hate those damn daedric spiders the most!!).

Im fully equipped with enchanted glass armor (cuirass that adds to strength, gauntlets that add to blade ability, boots that add to speed, helmet that adds to endurance, shield that adds to strength, necklace that adds 125pts to feather, ring that adds 18% to shield me and a couple other rings that I swap out for various reasons).

I have all daedric enchanted weapons too. Since my armorery skill is over 75, I can increase the effects of the items. Its sooo awesome when you get to that. I think my daedric longsword does damage of 28 or so....the claymore does 31 at 125%.

I finally did the Night Eye stuff on a necklace. I like it better because the light spells always make me feel like I'm telling the bad guys exactly where I am.

That would be go for the go fihing sidequest. Hopefully I can find that so I can finish the quest.

I found boots of the shark which are supposed to have waterwalking ability, but when I jumped into the water, I still sunk!? Is there something I am missing, and yes they are equipped.

In Oblivion water walking still lets you go under water. Just move up and you'll walk on top of it unlike Morrowind which would not let you go under at all while equipped.

where can I find a good merchant who gives me more than 1000 for armor and weapons?