The One & Only "Trying To Get An Xbox Thread" (merged with BB thread)
11-17-05 | 10:10 AM
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My local Best Buy wouldn't tell me how many they are getting and they are opening at 10 am. I think I'll just wait awhile before I get one.
11-17-05 | 10:12 AM
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Rumor has it that systems will be trickeling in every day now until X-Mas so I am sure companies like Best Buy have told their employee's they will have their own system within a few days of launch at their employee discount rate.
11-17-05 | 10:20 AM
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Here's a rather silly article from the New York Post about why you SHOULDN'T buy one at launch:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175860,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175860,00.html
Don't Buy the Xbox 360
Thursday, November 17, 2005
By Maxine Shen
NEW YORK — The buzz started six months ago.
There's Bill Gates on the cover of Time magazine in May, with a glowing green-and-white machine. "Inside Bill's New Xbox" it screamed.
Since then, the Xbox 360 — a sequel to Microsoft's Xbox video-game unit — has been the subject of breathless profiles, splashy television ads and Internet gossip.
The first shipments, due Tuesday, are already sold out. Analysts are calling it this year's hot holiday gift.
Don't believe the hype — and don't buy the Xbox 360.
Oh, it's an amazing console, don't get us wrong. Plugged into a high-definition television set with a booming sound system, it's amazing, a wonderland of sights and music.
But that's the part of the problem. To get the full Xbox 360 experience, you need to spend hundreds — perhaps thousands — of dollars. All that for a machine that won't play the hot games this season, like "Star Wars: Battlefront II" and "50 Cent: Bulletproof."
Save your cash, and skip the frenzy. Here are five reasons you should say "game over" to the Xbox 360:
Price — The Xbox 360 comes in two versions: the hard drive-less "core" system for $299 and the premium package for $399. But those who buy the lower-cost version are in for a surprise — they won't be able to play any of the Xbox games they already own.
"A lot of parents who go out and buy the $300 system, because they can't afford the $400 system, will have kids who aren't going to able to play 'Halo' or 'Halo 2' because backwards compatibility is going to be on the hard drive," says Brian D. Crecente, editor of kotaku.com, a gaming news blog.
Lack of games — Microsoft has announced there will be 200 backwards-compatible games (including "Forza Motorsport" and "Halo 2"), but only 19 launch titles for the 360. Only a handful are exclusives.
And popular new games, like "50 Cent: Bulletproof" and "The Warriors," won't play on the 360 at all.
Douglass Perry, editor in chief of the Xbox channel on IGN, says, "If you can wait, the second wave of games [due next year] are going to give developers the chance to really show us next-generation gaming in the truest sense."
No competition — Sure, you could rush out and drop hundreds on the 360, but we have no idea what the next-gen PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Revolution are going to be capable of doing. Both of those systems are due next year, and will surely spark a mini-price war with the Xbox 360.
Hidden costs — Right now, the Xbox 360's stunning graphics ability is its biggest selling point, but to take advantage of it, you'll need to invest in a high-definition TV — tacking on an extra couple hundred bucks, at least.
"We've all heard Microsoft basically saying that if you want to get an HDTV, the 360 is going to be the thing that makes you go out and get one," Crecente says. "Most of us dismissed that, but I swear, it's like they designed the 360 to make your TV look bad if you don't have HDTV."
And if you add peripherals, such as the ability to play games over the Internet, the Xbox 360 costs nearly $600!
Older consoles are not dead yet — Both the original Xbox and the PS2 are selling for $149, with the GameCube coming in at a mere $99 — in all cases, a complete steal compared to the Xbox 360.
You could take the money you saved and put it towards buying all the systems, plus a whole bunch of great games like "The Warriors."
Although he's a firm believer in the Xbox 360, Perry says, "If you buy a PS2 or an Xbox now, you're buying a system at the end of its lifespan, when some of the best games are showing up."
Thursday, November 17, 2005
By Maxine Shen
NEW YORK — The buzz started six months ago.
There's Bill Gates on the cover of Time magazine in May, with a glowing green-and-white machine. "Inside Bill's New Xbox" it screamed.
Since then, the Xbox 360 — a sequel to Microsoft's Xbox video-game unit — has been the subject of breathless profiles, splashy television ads and Internet gossip.
The first shipments, due Tuesday, are already sold out. Analysts are calling it this year's hot holiday gift.
Don't believe the hype — and don't buy the Xbox 360.
Oh, it's an amazing console, don't get us wrong. Plugged into a high-definition television set with a booming sound system, it's amazing, a wonderland of sights and music.
But that's the part of the problem. To get the full Xbox 360 experience, you need to spend hundreds — perhaps thousands — of dollars. All that for a machine that won't play the hot games this season, like "Star Wars: Battlefront II" and "50 Cent: Bulletproof."
Save your cash, and skip the frenzy. Here are five reasons you should say "game over" to the Xbox 360:
Price — The Xbox 360 comes in two versions: the hard drive-less "core" system for $299 and the premium package for $399. But those who buy the lower-cost version are in for a surprise — they won't be able to play any of the Xbox games they already own.
"A lot of parents who go out and buy the $300 system, because they can't afford the $400 system, will have kids who aren't going to able to play 'Halo' or 'Halo 2' because backwards compatibility is going to be on the hard drive," says Brian D. Crecente, editor of kotaku.com, a gaming news blog.
Lack of games — Microsoft has announced there will be 200 backwards-compatible games (including "Forza Motorsport" and "Halo 2"), but only 19 launch titles for the 360. Only a handful are exclusives.
And popular new games, like "50 Cent: Bulletproof" and "The Warriors," won't play on the 360 at all.
Douglass Perry, editor in chief of the Xbox channel on IGN, says, "If you can wait, the second wave of games [due next year] are going to give developers the chance to really show us next-generation gaming in the truest sense."
No competition — Sure, you could rush out and drop hundreds on the 360, but we have no idea what the next-gen PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Revolution are going to be capable of doing. Both of those systems are due next year, and will surely spark a mini-price war with the Xbox 360.
Hidden costs — Right now, the Xbox 360's stunning graphics ability is its biggest selling point, but to take advantage of it, you'll need to invest in a high-definition TV — tacking on an extra couple hundred bucks, at least.
"We've all heard Microsoft basically saying that if you want to get an HDTV, the 360 is going to be the thing that makes you go out and get one," Crecente says. "Most of us dismissed that, but I swear, it's like they designed the 360 to make your TV look bad if you don't have HDTV."
And if you add peripherals, such as the ability to play games over the Internet, the Xbox 360 costs nearly $600!
Older consoles are not dead yet — Both the original Xbox and the PS2 are selling for $149, with the GameCube coming in at a mere $99 — in all cases, a complete steal compared to the Xbox 360.
You could take the money you saved and put it towards buying all the systems, plus a whole bunch of great games like "The Warriors."
Although he's a firm believer in the Xbox 360, Perry says, "If you buy a PS2 or an Xbox now, you're buying a system at the end of its lifespan, when some of the best games are showing up."
11-17-05 | 10:26 AM
#105
Originally Posted by Edison
Check out the list here it will tell you how many your local BB is getting. Check on the front doors as all the BB's here have their holiday hours posted in the window. The local stores show a 8AM opening on Nov. 22.
11-17-05 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowpc
I will say... hardware is not discounted at many stores.. like EB and Bestbuy for its employees. Co-workers or a regular customer get the system for the same price.
11-17-05 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
Here's a rather silly article from the New York Post about why you SHOULDN'T buy one at launch
11-17-05 | 11:21 AM
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That article is terrible. Tons of people already have HDTVs, and are 50 Cent: Bulletproof and The Warriors really going to be the hot games this season? Talk about signs of the apocolypse!
11-17-05 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DamingR
That article is terrible. Tons of people already have HDTVs, and are 50 Cent: Bulletproof and The Warriors really going to be the hot games this season? Talk about signs of the apocolypse!
oh yeah, who gives a shit!!!
I'm sure there are tons of kids that are all bent out of shape and not wanting a 360 now because they won't be able to play those games on the core system
11-17-05 | 11:39 AM
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Please don't flame me if this has been covered before, but i don't feel like wading through the 27 different XBOX 360 threads and endless pages.
Did Best Buy take pre-orders for the 360 at all or do i just need to be one of the first in line when they open the doors to be guaranteed a system? I remember reading in an article how they offered pre-orders for RZ customers only, but i know how realiable some of those articles can be.
Did Best Buy take pre-orders for the 360 at all or do i just need to be one of the first in line when they open the doors to be guaranteed a system? I remember reading in an article how they offered pre-orders for RZ customers only, but i know how realiable some of those articles can be.
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11-17-05 | 11:40 AM
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I was going to say the same thing. Battlefront 2 did not get teh greatest reviews .. but will sell. 50 cent:bulletproof will sell like crazy .. but be a bad game I believe. The warriors has the "rockstar" labeling to it, so people will buy that (yet they aren't). Ahh... good old news.
There are only 10ish% that have hdtv's .. but you can use a computer monitor. A lot of people have computers, and you need to have a monitor for that correct? Just hook it up to that and you can get around 720p or maybe 1080i if you can do the resolution. I have had a bunch of people ask if "that thing you screw into the back of the tv" will be available on the system.
If I see one person ask for a RF adaptor or modulator... I will ask them to follow me and I will get them into a new Tube-based CRT HDTV monitor. You just spent 400 bucks on a system... spend a little more and get a good tv please.
There are only 10ish% that have hdtv's .. but you can use a computer monitor. A lot of people have computers, and you need to have a monitor for that correct? Just hook it up to that and you can get around 720p or maybe 1080i if you can do the resolution. I have had a bunch of people ask if "that thing you screw into the back of the tv" will be available on the system.
If I see one person ask for a RF adaptor or modulator... I will ask them to follow me and I will get them into a new Tube-based CRT HDTV monitor. You just spent 400 bucks on a system... spend a little more and get a good tv please.
11-17-05 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
Please don't flame me if this has been covered before, but i don't feel like wading through the 27 different XBOX 360 threads and endless pages.
Did Best Buy take pre-orders for the 360 or do i just need to be one of the first in line when they open the doors to be guaranteed a system? I remember reading in an article how they offered pre-orders for RZ customers only, but i know how realiable some of those articles can be.
Did Best Buy take pre-orders for the 360 or do i just need to be one of the first in line when they open the doors to be guaranteed a system? I remember reading in an article how they offered pre-orders for RZ customers only, but i know how realiable some of those articles can be.
11-17-05 | 02:55 PM
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I'm with you on that one. I didn't want one initially, but now that I am getting one I can hardly stand the wait.
11-17-05 | 02:56 PM
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Who here preordered the Xbox 360 from Gamestop?
I decided to check out the order status of my bundle today. They got rid of the "GameStop.com Product Replacement Plan $200 or More," so that was nice. However, two of the games in my bundle have been replaced! Out is Dead or Alive 4 and Elder Scrolls IV, and in their place is GUN and Condemned: Criminal Origins! Did this happen to anyone else?
11-17-05 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Legolas
I decided to check out the order status of my bundle today. They got rid of the "GameStop.com Product Replacement Plan $200 or More," so that was nice. However, two of the games in my bundle have been replaced! Out is Dead or Alive 4 and Elder Scrolls IV, and in their place is GUN and Condemned: Criminal Origins! Did this happen to anyone else?
1) Six states don't honor the Product Replacement Plan. I'm in one of them. Looks like you are too.
2) DOA4 and Oblivion were delayed until after launch, so in order to ship the bundles on time they replaced them with games of their choosing.
11-17-05 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flashburn
Just heard some bad news from someone over at cheapassgamer. They said their local Gamerush manager got an email from corporate today saying that they won't be allowed to sell them at midnight, due to them fearing people will get robbed. Kind of sucks, but I don't mind waiting until the morning, as long as they actually get all the systems in.
I tried calling my local Gamerush to verify they were getting all 10 system (or more), and to see if they heard about this. Unfortunately they said only the Gamerush manager could answer those questions, and he won't be in until tomorrow afternoon.
I tried calling my local Gamerush to verify they were getting all 10 system (or more), and to see if they heard about this. Unfortunately they said only the Gamerush manager could answer those questions, and he won't be in until tomorrow afternoon.
I just got back from Gamerush. I spoke to the Gamerush manager, and he stated he never received any email from corporate not to sell them at midnight, and to come down at 12:00 to pick up my system.
He also said how they are only getting 6 systems, so himself and another employee are not getting one, along with 2 people who he already called.
I was able to pick up Condemned, PGR3, and Tony Hawk. He said they were expecting Kameo tomorrow, and PDZ on monday (cutting it very close).
Lots of misinformation going around at Gamerush, but I guess that is typical.
11-17-05 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flashburn
He said they were expecting Kameo tomorrow, and PDZ on monday (cutting it very close).
typical.
typical.
11-17-05 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
I wonder why it takes them so long to get Kameo in? Wal-Mart has had it for a few days now and Wal-Mart is usually the last one to get something in.
11-17-05 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
I had to ask Gamestop about all that when they did it to me, because they didn't bother to tell us anything ahead of time.
1) Six states don't honor the Product Replacement Plan. I'm in one of them. Looks like you are too.
2) DOA4 and Oblivion were delayed until after launch, so in order to ship the bundles on time they replaced them with games of their choosing.
1) Six states don't honor the Product Replacement Plan. I'm in one of them. Looks like you are too.
2) DOA4 and Oblivion were delayed until after launch, so in order to ship the bundles on time they replaced them with games of their choosing.
Well this sucks. Looking at the Gun reviews, it's a pretty crappy game. Don't know anything about Condemned though. I won't miss Elder Scrolls, but I did want DOA4.
11-17-05 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Legolas
Well this sucks. Looking at the Gun reviews, it's a pretty crappy game. Don't know anything about Condemned though. I won't miss Elder Scrolls, but I did want DOA4.
11-17-05 | 05:16 PM
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I tried a demo of Gun and while it was ok I will probably pick it up for PC if I pick it up at all. I would consider it on the 360 if you could use a mouse and keyboard.
11-17-05 | 05:17 PM
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talk about a piss off, I preordered mine at Gamerush back in early Sept. and its paid in full. I was #8 on the preorder list. I just called and they are getting 8 systems in and I'm not getting one because I'm paid in full. this is BS.