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Nice find. Amazon sure didn't waste any time voicing their opinion on game console pricing.
Note of news: Koei confirmed that Ni-Oh will not be playable at TGS. |
Originally Posted by joshd2012
Nice find. Amazon sure didn't waste any time voicing their opinion on game console pricing.
Note of news: Koei confirmed that Ni-Oh will not be playable at TGS. Chris |
I'll call bs on a price of 299 for the PS3 (amazon have updated their prices many times before on other products as more information comes out). Having said that, the PS3 retail release may well end up cheaper than the 360 + equivalent accessories (eg. wireless bridge..).
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its BS. marketing hype by Sony so people don't buy the 360. i hope its true though.
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Originally Posted by sureAV421
its BS. marketing hype by Sony so people don't buy the 360. i hope its true though.
Sony owns Amazon.com? Oh wait, no they don't. This is purely Amazon guessing what the price will be. But since you know its BS, that must mean you know the MSRP of the PS3. Please tell, because we are dying to know. -rolleyes- |
I don't know where Amazon got that price, but it wasn't from Sony.
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Yeah, probably just marketing. But launching the PS3 with full features at $299 would be brilliant if they want to kill MS. That price point would ensure the PS3 did at least as well as the PS2 and probably put MS right out of the industry. Here's keeping my fingers crossed. I don't care what happens to MS. But I don't want to see $400 and up consoles become the norm. If that happens I'm 100% done with gaming given my already waning interest.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Yeah, probably just marketing. But launching the PS3 with full features at $299 would be brilliant if they want to kill MS. That price point would ensure the PS3 did at least as well as the PS2 and probably put MS right out of the industry. Here's keeping my fingers crossed. I don't care what happens to MS. But I don't want to see $400 and up consoles become the norm. If that happens I'm 100% done with gaming given my already waning interest.
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Well, my thinking was if the high price point kills MS (assuming that Sony and Nintendo launch at lower prices) it will show the industry that consumers won't pay more than $300 for a console and keep prices down for a while.
I'm all for competion. I just wish MS had more balls and was willing to take a loss and just put the premium pack out at $300 and really take a stab and building up a user base before the PS3 launches. And yeah, I'm hoping for a $199 revolution as well. I'd buy it at launch if they have the classic downloads available. It would be worth my $199 just to have easy access to all those games as I'd rather play my SNES favorites than 99% of games released to day. |
Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Well, my thinking was if the high price point kills MS (assuming that Sony and Nintendo launch at lower prices) it will show the industry that consumers won't pay more than $300 for a console and keep prices down for a while.
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To be fair, MS isn't directly competing with Sony either.
The X-box isn't that far ahead of the GC in sales and both are MILES behind the PS2. It's Sony and everyone else. Though I do agree that Sony has to consider MS more of a threat than Nintendo. But fortunately, I don't expect prices to get much higher. Regardless of how much people say gamers are mainly adults today. A huge chunk of the market is still kids and teens begging their parents to buy their consoles. And $400 will be a tough sell for most families, much less anything higher. I really hope Sony comes in at $299 or $349. I could see it happening since they have some many huge selling first party games to make up the money on (and a much larger dedicated base to sell each one to) where as MS really has neither with fewer hit first party games and a much smaller base of fans. |
Konami said they will have "something from the PS3" in addition to the trailer shown at E3 for MGS3 at TGS.
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Tecmo looks into PS3 development:
Already on board with the Xbox 360, Tecmo is considering signing up as a third-party developer for Sony's PlayStation 3 as well. According to Japanese site Mainichi Interactive, Tecmo president Junji Nakamura confirmed at a midterm briefing today that his company may develop games for the PlayStation 3 platform. While the news isn't entirely surprising (Tecmo has released multiple games on the PlayStation 2), this is the first time Nakamura has addressed game development for Sony's next-generation console. When asked by investors whether development costs for next-generation games will rise, Nakakura stated that development of Xbox 360 games will cost 20 percent more than current platforms. When asked about developing for the PlayStation 3, Nakamura commented that the console feels different to game creators than the Xbox 360 and current consoles. He believes the developers will need to change their ways of thinking to adapt to the PS3's architecture. In other news from the briefing, Tecmo reported sales of 3.9 billion yen ($35.4 million) and an operation profit of 400 million yen ($3.63 million) for the six-month period from January through June. The company forecasts annual sales of 14.4 billion yen ($131 million) and an operating profit of 2.8 billion yen ($25.4 million). Tecmo's fiscal year ends December 31. |
Will games cost significantly more for the PS3 if theyre on blueray disks? Will they eat any extra cost?
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Originally Posted by Save Ferris
Will games cost significantly more for the PS3 if theyre on blueray disks? Will they eat any extra cost?
That is third party games only most likely. I doubt you will see Sony go above the $50 price point for first party games. |
if going to blue ray would add $10 to the price of a game I wonder if any games will be anything other than DVDs. Its nice to have the option but I bet blueray will just end up being for movies.
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Yeah, I don't see any blu-ray games coming out for a while after the system launches. I don't see how they could sell them at the same price. At least not right away.
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Yeah, there are still CD games coming out for the PS2 and they haven't even broken into using dual-layer DVDs yet.
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First screens of Def Jam 3 on the PS3. Don't know if they are pre-rendered or in game:
http://theconsolewars.blogspot.com/2...jam-3-for.html |
Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Yeah, there are still CD games coming out for the PS2 and they haven't even broken into using dual-layer DVDs yet.
GT4 uses two layers. In fact, the first PS2 game to use a dual layer disc (Xenosaga) shipped February 28, 2002. |
When asked by investors whether development costs for next-generation games will rise, Nakakura stated that development of Xbox 360 games will cost 20 percent more than current platforms. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08...s_6131844.html When asked about developing for the PlayStation 3, Nakamura commented that the console feels different to game creators than the Xbox 360 and current consoles. He believes the developers will need to change their ways of thinking to adapt to the PS3's architecture. |
Blu-ray games would cost more, but I doubt we'll see Blu-ray games anytime soon. There are still games coming out on CD for the PS2 and they (to my knowledge) have yet to use the 2nd layer for any DVD games.
Blu-ray is being included simply to help Sony win the format war by putting a Blu-ray player in millions of homes. |
Simply developing games for blu-ray discs won't cost any more than other formats other than the manufacturing cost of pressing the newer proprietary discs. Actually using the extra space provided by the format WILL. So it's really a yes/no answer. Developers are probably more concerned with the added cost of creating games that'll take full advantage of the new hardware (along with the actual complexity of the developing for the hardware) rather than finding enough media to fill up a new disc format. We're still several years off from the actual game graphics and worlds being complex enough to need more than a standard DVD but it'll be nice to have the format supported for companies that want to create games uses hundreds of hours of music and voice acting audio (or *shudder* pre-rendered video).
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
There are still games coming out on CD for the PS2 and they (to my knowledge) have yet to use the 2nd layer for any DVD games.
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Ok, so two games, and only one (GT4) that uses it legitimately. With the other (Xenosaga) being a pointless interactive movie. ;)
But still, with only two games that use the second layer, there's cleary no need yet for more storage. Especially since they can always just put a game on 2 DVDs if they need to. It's hardly a big deal to have to change discs once when playing through a game. |
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