Yea, I know. But at least I will have piece of mind that mine will be comming soon. I'm sure all of those people who got their pre-orders pushed back will still get their system before I find one sitting on store shelves.

Any stores taking PS3 pre-orders yet?? This is one system i want at launch!!

I don't think anyone will take preorders until the date and price are set. I'm hoping for info during the CES show in January.

I found this gif about the boomerang on Joystiq.com.

http://www.forz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk...ngdebunked.gif

I don't think we'll see a price or release date at CES. Sony isn't going to reveal a Japanese release date and price at an American show. What we (hopefully) find out is an online network plan, and some playable demos of games.

There has to be an upcoming games show in Japan where they can make an announcement. Otherwise, they'll just have a press conference.

Cell Benchmark:

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerwork...y/pa-cellperf/

I will be pre-ordering this from a more legitimate place this time. I may even pre-order from two places just so I dont get tossed under the carpet again.

We would also like to thank some of the idiotic people in the trading forum for providing us a really good laugh. Sell a PS3 with sharp rug tooler weapons and they even believe this. Oh lord.

From the article (bolding is mine) -

"Assuming that matrix multiplication can achieve its peak single-precision floating point capability, a Pentium4 with SSE3 at 3.2GHz can achieve 25.6GFLOPS, while the Cell BE could achieve 201GFLOPS, better by almost a factor of eight."

"The Cell BE is a best-of-breed design that delivers significant computational power, high bandwidth, excellent power and performance, and leading area efficiency within the constraints of a process technology.

"With eight decoupled SPU SIMD engines, each with dedicated resources including DMA channels, the Cell BE has eight times more SIMD capability (for up to 16-way data parallelism) than traditional processors with vector architecture extensions, such as the PPC970 in the G5. The PPE is also free to process other applications even while all SPUs are in use. The Cell BE can perform especially well in cases where a general-purpose processor would normally get tied up by a single SIMD application. With its performance density and efficiency, the Cell BE can outperform leading-edge processors on a variety of workloads by approximately an order of magnitude, in some cases more, when software is tuned and optimized for this architecture."

:drool: I love it when tech articles talk dirty :drool:

Didn't most stores take preorders before either the launch date or price of the Xbox 360 was revealed (I think at E3?). Ironically, the ones that waited to preorder after the announcements were probably left out in the cold on launch day.

I distinctly remember seeing preorder signs up and thinking that it was crazy because we had no idea how much the system would really be...

http://www.control-freaks.tv/

Scroll down and watch the "Motorstorm" video. The developer confirms that it was running real-time on a PS3, though with the AI and physics turned off. So it was running in game engine, but somewhat disabled. I hope they can stuff all those turned off processes inside the Cells so it doesn't affect how the game looks, but that will have to wait to be seen.

I'm #1 on FYE's waiting list. :D

Was this in-store? I can't find anything on their site.

Based on what happened with the 360 I'll probably preorder PS3 from BB or Amazon.com

It's instore.

The BB Online preorder was horrific with a site crashing, and it was only for selected members, I'm a member and I wasn't selected.

Amazon has only really really expensive bundles.

Amazon sounds like they got their orders sent out quickly, so I'll probably use them then. I don't mind paying for a more expensive bundle as I'd probably spend the money on gas looking all over the place for one if I don't preorder anyway.

Yea, Amazon is the way to go if you can afford it. I used them for Gamecube and X-Box and got both on launch. I also just ordered a 360 through them two days ago and it shipped the next day. I will be using them again for PS3 and Revolution.

There was this photoshopped pic of Batman holding the PS3 controller somewhere in another thread, but I can't find it.

Does anyone remember the picture? Or perhaps a link?

AMD and IBM are going to start producing 65nm Cell chips which use silicon straining in the later half of next year in order to cut power consumption by 40%. No word if these would be used in a Version 2 of the PS3 come 2007.

http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5982887.html

I put "batman ps3" in google and the first link provided this:
http://www.techimo.com/photo/data/500/batmanps3.jpg

I assume that is what you are talking about.

That pic is awesome! :lol:

Warhawk and Lair are now rumored launch titles. I have updated the master game list.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/674/674740p1.html

Interview with Kaz and Jack: http://playstation3.wordpress.com/20...tion-magazine/

Epic has made a couple statements about Unreal Tournament 2007:

1) It will be a PS3 title.
2) It will support a mouse and keyboard on the PS3.
3) It is currently running at 50 fps on an early dev kit.

"PC gamers are used to having the absolute cutting edge graphics - console players are just going to say 'Wow!'" He bellowed. "When you see the game running on PS3, it's going to be smoother. You're not going to have the operating system in the way and all the other things that can make a PC game look 'poppy'."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...(que)id=131249

I don't like having a mouse and keyboard option for FPS console games.

Some may say that giving the option is nice, but I think it unlevels the playing field.

*Edited to add FPS as that was my intention.

Why do we want to make consoles just like PCs again?

But if it means that we get more strategy games like Age of Empires, etc. that require a mouse, then I'm all for it.

That is the one thing that is lacking on consoles, Empire Building / God Games that are for the PC.

Chris

Please see above :D

Chris

:down: to mouse and keyboard

:down: to :down:

Chris :lol:

... or they could just separate controller users and KB&M users during online play, and change the difficulty based on what input is used.

*screaming from the rooftops*
We want options! But not that one!

I guess you can't please people who just want to talk negatively about a Sony console.

Mouse & Keyboard was a flop for DC. I'm fairly sure it will be the same here.

I'm not saying no to mouse and keyboard support. I'm saying that in FPS games it unevens the playng field. Sorry, forgot to put FPS in my original post.

While there are people who are amazing with a controller, it still doesn't compare to the accuracy of a keyboard and mouse.

They can't seperate KB&M from controller users because it would limit the amount of games joinable by any one person. Something they wouldn't want to do because it would be detrimental to an online games userbase.


In what way did I or have I spoken badly about the PS3? I always buy all the consoles and I read this thread because I'm excited about getting a PS3. Please don't make accusations as it was not warranted in this case. KB&M support in a console FPS has nothing to do with Sony.

Sure they can. The same way they were able to separate Dial-up vs. Broadband or if someone was using a microphone. When you make a game room, you specify who you will allow to play. If you feel there is too heavy an advantage towards using KB&M, then you create a room (or join one) that is controller only. Very simple.

It what way did I make it seem I was directing that comment at you? I didn't quote you, nor did I post directly after you. :shrug:

I'm not saying that they can't do it from a technical standpoint. I'm saying that alienating any part of your userbase is something I think a company would want to do.

Sorry, I thought it was directed towards me as I was the first one who posted something negative about the KB&M setup for console FPS. I'm also active in the Xbox scene, so I thought you might have pegged me for being anti-Sony.

Interesting interview with Phil Harrison:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62158

EA states the Fight Night Round 3 for the 360 is a completely different game than Fight Night Round 3 for the PS3:

http://xbox360.1up.com/do/previewPag...3146303&did=13

I believe that the new PS2 chipset that is running in the new 75001 series PS2s is the same one that Sony will be using in PS3. Because of this, I have added the Incompatible Games list to the games section (first page) based on this assumption.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/677/677330p1.html

This trailer was shown after the remake for PSP and new game for PS2. One can only assume that a new game in the series is headed for PS3.

That is pure speculation on your part. If you're going to add it into the Incompatible games list, please add that's it's speculative as some people might hold it as being official.

AQ Interactive will be developing a game called Vampire's Rain for the PS3:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3146484

And I also added that stipulation to the incompatible games list, per your request.

UT 2007 will be a PS3 launch title and be PS3/PC exclusive.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/s...hp?sid=6141640