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orangecrush 11-18-05 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Terrell
Cool beans! Nothing wrong with buying a PS2 now, as there are many great games. I just don't think there will be that many people.

If they droped the price to $99, I would be much more inclinded to buy one.

joshd2012 11-22-05 06:56 AM

I actually expected this announcement a little sooner, but they waited until the 360 launch day to drop the bomb. Stringer (again) confirmed that the PS3 will ship between $300 and $400 (obviously waiting to see how the 360 does at the higher price). The PS3 will also ship with a "media bundle" which will include demos for movies, games, and TV shows. This is most likely a Blu-Ray disc cram-packed with demos.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=13145

Decker 11-22-05 09:31 AM

Wow. Very interesting. That should not only give Sony a huge advantage in the next console generation, it'll effectively kill HD-DVD. I wonder how much of a loss they'll be selling them at.

After seeing the madness of today, I wonder if I can reserve one at EB or Gamestop yet...

Mr. Cinema 11-22-05 09:51 AM

At least we can put the $500+ price rumors to rest.

raven56706 11-22-05 09:54 AM

i will definitelty reserve one asap

vhgong 11-22-05 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by raven56706
i will definitelty reserve one asap

What you mean reserve 1, reserve 10.

Josh H 11-22-05 01:44 PM

I expect we'll see it at $399 now. Unless the 360 is totally kicking ass by then, which I don't really see happening with the game line up. They'll sell like hot cakes through January, then everyone that wants one for the launch games will have one and others will be content be waiting until the next killer game which will probably be Halo 3 or just waiting for a PS3.

The Franchise 11-22-05 04:28 PM

Interesting (and intentionally inflamatory) article comparing the 360 and the PS3
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/668/668446p1.html

On a side note the main story link on ps3.ign.com has an interesting side view of the console that I hadn't seen before. It has all the HDMI/DTS/DVD logos etc and some air vents.

joshd2012 11-23-05 08:32 AM

I spend some time the last two days updating the game list on the first page. It is now pretty complete (according to IGN) and I'll try to keep up with it. I added a few games which now have media, and added a bunch of new titles. Enjoy.

Michael Corvin 11-23-05 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by The Franchise
Interesting (and intentionally inflamatory) article comparing the 360 and the PS3
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/668/668446p1.html

On a side note the main story link on ps3.ign.com has an interesting side view of the console that I hadn't seen before. It has all the HDMI/DTS/DVD logos etc and some air vents.

there is a similar one for the Revolution vs. 360, which has some stronger points than the PS3 article. "You can still pre-order a PS3" a reason to skip the 360? :lol: I think they were stretching to make a 10 item list.

Both have solid points and both have their faults(Girls & Grandpas will play Rev, a reason to skip 360? Also, :lol: ) But both are good reads.

fumanstan 11-23-05 09:37 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/21/tech...2805/index.htm


Correction: An earlier version of this story appeared with statements erroneously attributed to Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony Corporation, regarding pricing and availability of the PS3. Stringer has not commented publicly on how much the PS3 is expected to cost, or how soon it will appear in the US after the Japanese launch in spring 2006.
Oops.

PixyJunket 11-23-05 09:57 AM

Though this might not do much of anything, Sony's two biggest exclusives (in Japan) are probably going to land on Xbox 360 alongside their Playstation 3 counterparts. Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Quest IX.

joshd2012 11-23-05 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Though this might not do much of anything, Sony's two biggest exclusives (in Japan) are probably going to land on Xbox 360 alongside their Playstation 3 counterparts. Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Quest IX.

Square pretty much squashed that rumor:

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/nid/1873/

As for the price retration - yeah - completely planned. Its more likely than not true, and they are just going to wait til a later date to confirm it. I doubt this happened on the 360 launch day as a coincidence.

As for the overheating, well, that is an issue when you use watercooling and don't have an external heat sink.

fumanstan 11-23-05 12:48 PM

That doesn't really sound like a squash, just the typical "we have no comment on that" stance that a lot of companies take. Personally, I think at least one of those two franchises will make their way to the XBox 360, however I can see Sony still having a good period of time where they'll be PS3 exclusives, like the way GTA has been on the PS2.

outer-edge 11-23-05 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by fumanstan
http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/21/tech...2805/index.htm

Correction: An earlier version of this story appeared with statements erroneously attributed to Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony Corporation, regarding pricing and availability of the PS3. Stringer has not commented publicly on how much the PS3 is expected to cost, or how soon it will appear in the US after the Japanese launch in spring 2006.

Oops.

When I saw the correction, my thought was that someone made a huge boo-boo. That price can not hurt them at all, but if that price becomes lodged in consumers minds and is not accurate, then it will be a blow. I am guessing someone said something they shouldn't have, someone else saw the news on the Web and asked for an immediate retraction. The damage may be done now though, and Sony may be locked into a price they were unsure about.

Decker 11-24-05 01:18 AM

Aw, crap. I knew that sub-$400 was too good to be true. Still, if they want to be competitive with the 360 (which has taken more knocks in the press for price than anything else), they can't come in much higher than $400, can they? Must be a difficult position to be in. We'll see, I guess...

Josh H 11-24-05 10:06 AM

If they come in at more than $400, they're in major trouble IMO.

I've said many times that Sony will stay on top until they do something stupid on part with Nintendo sticking with Carts for the N64.

Launching at more than $400 could do that, especially if the 360 has a price drop by then, and the Revolution launches at the same time for $200. Especially if the PS3 has a crappy launch lineup like the PS1 and PS2 did where there were no real must play games for months.

joshd2012 11-25-05 09:00 AM

They aren't going to come out for more than $400. Stringer told everyone the price, and then retracted that statement. Doesn't mean its not true - just that he spoke too soon.

Anyway, looks like Sony will be the highlight of the CES, as they have purchased the central stand at the show. They will controll 12,000 sqft of prime floorspace to show off their new products, including PS3.

http://www.playfuls.com/news_0251_So..._CES_2006.html

Decker 11-26-05 10:34 AM

Oh man, I have to use some connections and get into that show. One of my friends is a big shot with trade shows, so I'll give him a call. That should be pretty cool.

tenaciousdave 11-26-05 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
They aren't going to come out for more than $400. Stringer told everyone the price, and then retracted that statement. Doesn't mean its not true - just that he spoke too soon.

While that could be true, there's about a 50/50 shot at it being a journalist mistake.

Josh H 11-26-05 06:12 PM

I agree it's unlikely they'll launch at more than $400. To much is riding on it, and I don't think Sony is that stupid.

AllHallowsEve 11-26-05 07:21 PM

I am starting to think that Kingdom Hearts 2 will be released as a Playstation 3 title on launch. Actually, that would be wise of Sony to do as far as from a business perspective. That would be an excellent game to release at launch. Systems need stronger launches.

Kingdom Hearts 2
Resident Evil 5
Grand Theft Auto: San Francisco

and a handful of other power titles.

all at launch.

I would have to find the money.

Gallant Pig 11-26-05 08:30 PM

That'd be a killer launch, but I don't see it happening. Why didn't the PS2 launch with anything good? That's why I skipped it at first. Why didn't PSOne launch with anything good?

I don't think Sony cares much about having a spectacular launch lineup. They know they'll sell assloads of these things even if they launch with half-asses graphics fireworks demos.

tenaciousdave 11-26-05 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
I am starting to think that Kingdom Hearts 2 will be released as a Playstation 3 title on launch. Actually, that would be wise of Sony to do as far as from a business perspective. That would be an excellent game to release at launch. Systems need stronger launches.

There's no way SquareEnix would do that. They would lose a rediculous amount in sales by not releasing it for PS2 since it has the 90 million some odd user base. They would also have to redo the engine and that would cost a ton of cash.

The Bus 11-27-05 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
I am starting to think that Kingdom Hearts 2 will be released as a Playstation 3 title on launch. Actually, that would be wise of Sony to do as far as from a business perspective. That would be an excellent game to release at launch. Systems need stronger launches.

Kingdom Hearts 2
Resident Evil 5
Grand Theft Auto: San Francisco

and a handful of other power titles.

all at launch.

I would have to find the money.

Between GTA, MGS, RE, and Kingdom Hearts... That'd be one hell of a launch.

AllHallowsEve 11-27-05 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by tenaciousdave
There's no way SquareEnix would do that. They would lose a rediculous amount in sales by not releasing it for PS2 since it has the 90 million some odd user base. They would also have to redo the engine and that would cost a ton of cash.

Thats a good point. But, by the time the game is actually released it will probably be the same week as the Playstation 4 launch.

Not that I am complaining. The game looks like a lot of work has gone into it. It's looking to be shaping up very nicely.

I do kind of hope that this game releases around the same time as PS3. Why? I no longer own a Playstation 2 and dont really want to buy one again. I sold off this generations systems to help pay for this upcoming generations systems. I have been living off only the DS for months which actually hasnt been half bad this fall. Some nice titles. But, if the PS3 is postponed to next fall for next falls holiday season, I will have to. I dont want to wait months and months to play it if its released in the spring.

I barely get that way about games (very few which tend to be highly popular titles), but I wont be waiting with this one. Im getting it on release day.

jaeufraser 11-27-05 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by The Bus
Between GTA, MGS, RE, and Kingdom Hearts... That'd be one hell of a launch.

It would be. Though RE5 is going to 360 also, so that one wouldn't really mean as much as the others.

Gallant Pig 11-27-05 10:39 AM


I do kind of hope that this game releases around the same time as PS3. Why? I no longer own a Playstation 2 and dont really want to buy one again.
Earth to AllHallow'sEve, Backwards Compatability ;)

Decker 11-27-05 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
That'd be a killer launch, but I don't see it happening. Why didn't the PS2 launch with anything good? That's why I skipped it at first. Why didn't PSOne launch with anything good?

I don't think Sony cares much about having a spectacular launch lineup. They know they'll sell assloads of these things even if they launch with half-asses graphics fireworks demos.

:lol: What are you talkin' about? Fantavison ruled!
Of course, I bought Suggler's Run, which wasn't much better.

And though there wasn't anything spectacular at the PS2's launch (besides maybe SSX), the PS1 had Twisted Metal and Ridge Racer at launch, so that wasn't shabby at all.

AllHallowsEve 11-27-05 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
Earth to AllHallow'sEve, Backwards Compatability ;)

Thats why I hope PS3 is released around the same time as Kingdom Hearts 2. If the Playstation 3 is pushed off until next fall (because of blue ray issues), but Kingdom of Hearts is released in the spring, I will have to purchase a PS2 again (which I dont want to do) to play Kingdom Hearts 2. Because I wouldnt want to wait from Spring all the way until Fall to play it. There will be no Playstation 3 to purchase yet at that time if its pushed off. Hope that makes sense.

Decker 11-27-05 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
Thats why I hope PS3 is released around the same time as Kingdom Hearts 2. If the Playstation 3 is pushed off until next fall (because of blue ray issues), but Kingdom of Hearts is released in the spring, I will have to purchase a PS2 again (which I dont want to do) to play Kingdom Hearts 2. Because I wouldnt want to wait from Spring all the way until Fall to play it. There will be no Playstation 3 to purchase yet at that time if its pushed off. Hope that makes sense.

If it's THAT important to you and those dates are right, spend the extra $20 on the PS2 replacement warranty at Best Buy. Then you can bring it back just prior to the PS3 launch and pick up a $150 gift voucher for your PS2 to use on the purchase of your PS3 (or anything else).

AllHallowsEve 11-27-05 09:08 PM

Our Best Buy store requires that items be sent in for service before paying out on the replacement plan. So, that kind of kills that idea.

Funny thing is when I purchased a graphing calculator a few years ago, the salesperson actually told me to buy the replacement plan, use the item, and then return it after the semester and buy cd's. I couldn't believe it. I am dead serious. I didnt do that though.

Maybe I will just see if someone will let me borrow theirs for a week or two who doesnt use it. But, hopefully everything stays on schedule and that way there will be no problems.

I also plan on pre-ordering as soon as they start taking pre-orders. Hopefully from somewhere legitimate this time that wont knock my pre-order out after six months because I paid in full. Huh? Yep, I thought the same thing.

DJ_Longfellow 11-29-05 11:52 AM

So, do we forsee the same fiasco for trying to get one of these as we did with the XBOX 360?

Gallant Pig 11-29-05 12:06 PM

You should probably start camping out now.

joshd2012 11-29-05 08:49 PM

http://www.mc.com/cell/media/large.cfm

Cell tech demo for the medical field.

Josh H 11-29-05 09:09 PM

Yep, given the huge popularity of the playstation series (look how many more PS2's were sold compared to X-boxes), I'm sure the PS3 will be even tougher to find around launch.

Eric D. 11-29-05 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Yep, given the huge popularity of the playstation series (look how many more PS2's were sold compared to X-boxes), I'm sure the PS3 will be even tougher to find around launch.

And that's why I'm not going to mess around like I did with the 360 and just pre-order a PS3. I'm done with waiting in lines.

jeffdsmith 11-29-05 09:46 PM

What Walmart (and others) should do is tell everyone in advance to show up at 11pm the night of the launch. Everyone present at 11:30pm receives a number. Following, a random drawing is held as to who gets to buy the system at midnight.

I recognize this potentially screws those willing to wait in line, but I really do think this would be a superior system by providing increased safety and sanity.

Josh H 11-29-05 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Eric D.
And that's why I'm not going to mess around like I did with the 360 and just pre-order a PS3. I'm done with waiting in lines.

That's definitely best if you have to have one at launch.

Of course a lot of stores haven't filled all their 360 pre-orders yet, but at least those people know they'll eventually get one without having to check stores repeatedly.

Gallant Pig 11-29-05 10:59 PM

Jeff that would make way too much sense and be way too easy.

Here's my much better solution: Sony will ship out an unknown number of PS3s. Tons of people will camp out at stores days early. The manager knows how many PS3s they have, and knows it's way too few for the people waiting, but doesn't inform anyone in the crowd of this. The crowd devises their own numbering system based on who got there first. At midnight, the manager refuses to recognize the numbering system and says whoever can run to a bin in the back and grab one then bring it up to the front will be able to buy it.


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