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Old 01-11-05 | 11:49 AM
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I'm rather annoyed with the difficulty as well. I'm at the speed boost boss right now, and while I've only tried to kill him a couple times, I really don't feel the urge to keep trying. It'd be a shame if this is the first metroid I don't play all the way through, but for some reason, this one just isn't hooking me like the others have.

BTW, am I the only one who finds some of these worlds too cluttered? There are a ton of rooms where there is so much crap (like weeds or whatever) going all over the place that I have to constantly check the map to get the layout of the room.
Old 01-11-05 | 12:28 PM
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I'm about 5.5 hours in and up until this point I found the game to be just about the right difficulty, if even a bit easy. The save points are pretty much perfectly spread out. I got totally creamed by the Boost Guardian though last night and barely got a 1/4 of it's life down. It was only my first try and it was pretty late so I didn't try again but I think that's going to be a tough battle; fortunatley there's a save station in the next room.

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Old 01-11-05 | 01:10 PM
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Yes the boost ball Guardian is one of the toughest. The thing that is great about the boss battles is that you really do get better each time you fight them. It isn't an unfair fight, you just have to figure out what the best way is to deafeat them.

The boost ball guardian I died on several times as well as the last boss. The only other boss that killed me was the Chykka. Then again I didn't have that much trouble on Metroid Fusion either.

The one aspect that I think is "cheap" of them is the stupid scan logs. I hate that they throw in one stupid enemy that only appears at a certain time and only if you turn around and scan it. It threw me off on the first Prime when I thought I scanned everything and was off by quite a bit. But this one I was determined to scan every little thing but missed one little thing. That ticks me off.
Old 01-11-05 | 02:40 PM
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I remember a few bosses in the game seeming impossible the first time I played them, but I got better each fight and beat them. I thought the difficulty was pretty good, challenging but fair.
Old 01-11-05 | 08:40 PM
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Arrghh!!! I'm about to break my controller in this game.

Can anyone tell me how to beat the second temple boss.
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I can't do any damage at all on adult Chykka. I read the gamefaqs and it said you must stunned it and grapple across one of the platform and destroyed all four wings on it back. However the control pretty much suck. When I stunned it I can't get the grapple beam to work right and when I do get behind Chykka I can't get a locked on one of the wing I even tried using the R button control with no success and to make it worse it does'nt stay stunned for that long leaving me frustrated. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Old 01-11-05 | 09:30 PM
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Arrghh!!! I'm about to break my controller in this game.

Can anyone tell me how to beat the second temple boss.
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I can't do any damage at all on adult Chykka. I read the gamefaqs and it said you must stunned it and grapple across one of the platform and destroyed all four wings on it back. However the control pretty much suck. When I stunned it I can't get the grapple beam to work right and when I do get behind Chykka I can't get a locked on one of the wing I even tried using the R button control with no success and to make it worse it does'nt stay stunned for that long leaving me frustrated. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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I didn't have much of a problem getting behind him. First of all, just to clarify, when he's stunned, there are flashing red circles on the back of each of his 4 wings. So after I stunned him, I space jumped towards the adjacent platform, and when I was in range for the grapple beam, I used it. When you are behind him, you can either lock on and super missle one of the flashing red circles, or just use your seeker missles. I'm not sure why you're have a hard time locking on to his wings. Unless he's not really stunned when you try, the lock on should be pretty easy. Hope this helps.
Old 01-11-05 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dom56
Arrghh!!! I'm about to break my controller in this game.

Can anyone tell me how to beat the second temple boss.
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I can't do any damage at all on adult Chykka. I read the gamefaqs and it said you must stunned it and grapple across one of the platform and destroyed all four wings on it back. However the control pretty much suck. When I stunned it I can't get the grapple beam to work right and when I do get behind Chykka I can't get a locked on one of the wing I even tried using the R button control with no success and to make it worse it does'nt stay stunned for that long leaving me frustrated. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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You might not be on the right platform. When he gets stunned his back is facing a certain platform, if you aren't on that platform you won't be able to target the red circles on his wings.
Old 01-11-05 | 09:56 PM
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I'm about 5.5 hours in and up until this point I found the game to be just about the right difficulty, if even a bit easy. The save points are pretty much perfectly spread out. I got totally creamed by the Boost Guardian though last night and barely got a 1/4 of it's life down. It was only my first try and it was pretty late so I didn't try again but I think that's going to be a tough battle; fortunatley there's a save station in the next room.
I beat him tonight on my third try with about half of my health in tact no less. Wasn't as hard as it seemed at first. I kept thinking I had to wait for that cut scene where he turns back into the beast form before attacking when there were plenty of opportunities to attack him in beast form when there wasn't a cut scene. I took him out with about 3-4 super missles and a few charged light cannon blasts. There was still even one of the four columns left standing when the battle was over.

I am definitely enjoying this game a lot but I liked the first one better. I don't really care much for the Dark side of Metroid Prime 2.

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Old 01-14-05 | 12:50 PM
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Damn, very early on and I already wasted an hour and a half being stuck

I missed the pillar you had to shoot with missles to knock down and make a bridge to get to the door to the bomb guardian. Was back tracking and looking all over but needed bombs or a translator to get any further.
Old 01-16-05 | 12:59 PM
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Finally beat the second temple boss.

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I found out that I was going on the wrong platform when trying to shoot out the wing on the back. What annoying is that it take too long in fighting this boss, I think it took me about half-hour and you have to fight it in three forms, on top of that you must scan each forms if you want to get a good ending and scanning take too long without getting hurt. You should'nt have to fight a boss this long when it is'nt even a end boss. End rant.
Old 01-16-05 | 09:49 PM
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The boost guardian seems to be the toughest of the bosses in my opinion.
Old 01-17-05 | 09:32 PM
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I'm digging the game the more I play it. I got the space jump tonight, and played a while longer. Believe I'm at the save room before getting the dark beam from what I read in scans.

I'm not a huge fan of the dark world. I love the two world idea, but taking damage from the air and having to stand around in the light to heal gets old and really slows down the pace of the game.
Old 01-25-05 | 03:07 PM
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Just finished MP2 with 97% ugh.....

Regarding the ending:

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Kinda lame ending....Fighting the dark Samus got boring fast, considering that you've fought her 4 other times...the first few times was cool, but now it was like ALRIGHT DIE for REAL! The ending-ending was alright, nothing special...rather weak, compared to MP. Seeing Aran with here armor off was cool I guess, it's a nice continuum starting from the NES days.
Overall the game was pretty decent fun. Well worth me buying a GC for. Now my GC will sleep until Zelda comes out Can't wait!


Moving forward I would love to see Metroid move in a different direction. Hear me out...

It's getting old with her ship crashing on a planet and bla bla bla....What I would love to see is a SPACE ADVENTURE! Meaning, she'll track down baddies Ala Bounty Hunter style. She'll travel to different worlds to pick up items, clues and fight baddies. I think it would be very cool seeing Samus in this light. It still will be a FPA game, but with a different twist in story and adventure.

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Old 01-25-05 | 03:24 PM
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I'm right at the last boss. Still missing 1 energy tank and 1-2 missile packs. For some reason I only have 76% scans, I don't know how that could be, I've scanned everything I've seen except for a few of the bosses at the beginning.
I figured I was at least at 90%.

Anyway, when I get back to it, I'll go and hunt for those few missing items. I hope the last boss isn't too tough as I'll chicken out. The game's finished as far as I'm concerned and I've got other stuff to do with my time.
Old 01-29-05 | 01:02 PM
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Just beat the game last weekend, 93%. It was an awesome game, loved the screw attack. One of the things I loved is that the metroid prime series has really set a new standard for epic boss battles that change and evolve over the course of battle as you pound your enemy and they are forced to come up with new ways to combat you, and likewise causing you to change your own strategy and come up with new ways to beat them. Not to mention this game has some pretty touch boss fights, but overall it was just the right difficulty.
Old 02-10-05 | 10:16 AM
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Old 02-10-05 | 11:13 AM
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Anybody finding the new color-coated scan system difficult to get used to? I guess I'm not sure what was so inefficient with the last sytem or what is so much more efficient with this new system. I find it just plain difficult to tell what I'm looking at.

I've also noticed more in Echoes than Prime that after scanning an enemy, it seems to take a little longer to get out of my scan visor mode and start shooting at it before it shoots me.
Old 02-16-05 | 09:43 PM
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Yay!!! Finally beat this game tonite.

Got all 100% scan. Total time was 23:51

Thought on the game, pretty good sequeal not as tough as the first one. Emperor Ing was a annoying boss to beat cause you have to fight him in three form but he wasn't hard as the last boss in the first Metroid Prime. After beating Dark Samus the final time I was disappointed with the ending I thought it was pretty lame after all that scanning.
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All you get to see is Samus without her armour
. Despite that I still enjoyed playing this game and highly recommend this for anyone getting the Gamecube.
Old 02-17-05 | 09:18 PM
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Beat the boost guardian today, major pain in the ass. Glad to see some here said that was the worst boss!

Now trying to figure out how to get the next hint mark.


Also, the ending is determined by % items right? So scans only unlock image galleries? I ask as I didn't scan the boost guardian the time I beat him, I decided it was wasting to much time and just started off attacking him and ended up taking about 2/3's of his power before the first time he went to ball form.
Old 02-19-05 | 05:39 PM
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Beat a few more bosses, and just finished the second temple.

Loving the game, but hating the bosses. Not really that they're too hard, they just take too damn long. Even once you figure them out they take too long to kill. Seems like I'm wasting at least an hour on each between figuring out how to damage them in each form, their patterns, and actually executing it.

Might go to gamefaqs for a boss faq so I can just get straight to the execution phase of the remaining boss battles to speed things up a little as I'm really not enjoying that aspect of the game at all. Never was much of a fan of bosses period.

The zelda series got bosses right IMO in that 95% of them are easy to execute once you figure out and the battles don't take too long most of the time.

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