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Old 10-12-03 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I'll definitely rent it, or wait for a deal. Your impressions of the final game, about mirror mine of the demo.

Couple that with the guy above who beat it on adult in under 10 hours and there's no way I'm shelling out $40 for this.

As for replay value, from the EGM review, there are different characters, supposedly with different moves, to replay the game with after beating it, so it may be worth while. You unlock harder difficulty settings as well, but I've never had a desire to replay a game just to try a harder setting.
A little under 10 hours is great for what type of game it is though. I was much more pissed and disappointed in the 5H35M it took to finish Silent Hill 3 after paying full price for it. Plus in VJ (if you enjoy the game) there is incentives to playing the game on higher diffficulties. The extra characters play differently. But to each their own, I understand some may not like the game. It is very old school(circa 85-93) in design.

Alot of games this generation are under the 10 hour mark, so I'm not sure how it's a negative for one game but not another.

Zone of the Enders:2nd Runner 6ish Hours
The Mark of Kri (great game, use to be 9.99 at Best Buy, might still YMMV) I think 7ish Hours
Silent Hill 2 (can complete this in under 2 hours now,I think it was 8 or 9 first time through)
Silent Hill 3 under 6Hours
Onimusha 1 under 6 hours
Onimusha 2 around 9ish Hours
Rygar around 11Hours
Ratchet and Clank *15H50M Added to show difference between VJ
Sly Cooper *8H40M Added to show difference between VJ
Viewtiful Joe 9H48M

*R&C took me a little longer since I went bolt hunting and just explored the enviroment more than what was needed(wanted to soak as much of the game as possible).

Theses are just some of the games that are far under 10 hours completion times or slightly over it(that I have played). All great games this generation(Rygar is questionalbe after the stupid boss battles). To be fair I did buy Onimusha 2, The Mark of Kri and Sly Cooper when their prices were 9.99,9.99 and 14.99(BB coupon),rest were purchased on release day.

But again, I understand this particular game isn't for everyone.

*not singling you out Josh, I hear about completion times complaints quite a bit from other forums.*

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Old 10-13-03 | 01:03 PM
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I know it's not bad for the type of game.

I just won't pay full price for short games. Not worth the $ IMO.

For instance, I really wanted Sly Cooper last year, but wouldn't pay full price becuase it was similarly short.

Just not enough bang for your buck. It's a critical flaw of many games this generation.
Old 10-13-03 | 01:46 PM
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I'm having a lot of fun with this game. This is the type of game that is most of today's "me too!" games lack in freshness and putting gameplay, fun, and style over everything else. I like how the slow motion/speed powers are critical to the gameplay and not an after thought, it does it 100 times better than Enter the Matrix, and the freedom in style they give you on how you can choose to blow away your enemies rocks. Not to mention that its pretty hard. I've played the demo about 20 times and when I got to the helicopter in the full game I died. I can't get past the 2nd level, the building is tough! But like Aghama said, it doesn't feel cheap at all. Capcom has redeemed itself with this game.

One of the funny things about the adult mode is that they mean it. I was laughing so hard in the second level when you go through the red light district and the all signs in the background are say stuff like "topless!" with pictures of topless girls with their nips censored out with stars . Is it like that in the kids mode too?
Old 10-14-03 | 03:04 PM
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I was laughing so hard in the second level when you go through the red light district and the all signs in the background are say stuff like "topless!" with pictures of topless girls with their nips censored out with stars . Is it like that in the kids mode too?
Same thing in kids mode. Um, I mean, or so I hear. (okay yes, I'm playing it on Kids mode. I don't have time to be restarting levels all day long!)
Old 10-14-03 | 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I know it's not bad for the type of game.

I just won't pay full price for short games. Not worth the $ IMO.

For instance, I really wanted Sly Cooper last year, but wouldn't pay full price becuase it was similarly short.

Just not enough bang for your buck. It's a critical flaw of many games this generation.
Completely understand that. It's the exact same reason I waited on Sly Cooper to go greatest hits. But at the same time some games I just have to have and there is no way I could wait on it going greatest hits or lowering below $30.
Old 10-14-03 | 10:52 PM
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This game is tough (playing Adult mode). I finally got past level 6 - probably spent about 5 hours total getting by it. Thank god you don't have to start the whole level over when you die on the 5th boss, considering it took me about 4 hours just to get that far (since you have to start over if you run out of lives during the first 4 bosses).
Old 10-15-03 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by QuAcKeR
Same thing in kids mode. Um, I mean, or so I hear. (okay yes, I'm playing it on Kids mode. I don't have time to be restarting levels all day long!)
Thats awesome!

I just got to the shooter stage. The guys over at Capcom rock, they definitely meant it as a tribute to shooter fans and developers, it even has the robotic voices that are in Ikaruga. Total sweetness!
Old 10-16-03 | 11:40 AM
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Josh you rent the game yet?!
Old 10-16-03 | 11:46 AM
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No, too busy with school and work right now, and I'm going to be out of town for a while.

I'll probably just get it for my Birthday. I hate renting games, too expensive, everywhere around me is $6 or so for 7 days. I'd rather just pay a couple bucks for a day or two.
Old 10-18-03 | 10:38 AM
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Finally finished the game on Ultra V-rated (highest difficulty level). Very intense gameplay, no skulls pop up to show you if they are hitting low or high. You can die within 3 hits against most enemies it seemed, at least the bigger ones and the bosses. More enemies per stage and later level ones showing up in earlier episodes.

Unlocked
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all three hidden characters Sylvia,Alastor and Captain Blue
so now I have to play adult 3 more times.
Still need to get Rainbow Viewtifuls for each stage as well to unlock the last thing. Not sure I can even do it though heh.

Ultra V-rated time 5H40M
V-rated time 6H36M
Adults time 9H48M

22H4M total time not bad.

First game in a long long time that I actually finished on all the difficulty levels. Usually I just finish on normal and then shelve it,not even getting 100% completion on normal. Kids difficulty doesn't count since you can't leave kids difficulty with your powers intact.
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Hey guys, i am stuck in the level after fighting Joe himself.
In that level, when you finish beating the tank and the plane, you get a key to go down the sewers, how the heck to i activate the 2 toggles. I can't seem to be able to reach them to get them both activated at the same time. Helpp!!!!!
Old 10-19-03 | 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by vhgong
Hey guys, i am stuck in the level after fighting Joe himself.
In that level, when you finish beating the tank and the plane, you get a key to go down the sewers, how the heck to i activate the 2 toggles. I can't seem to be able to reach them to get them both activated at the same time. Helpp!!!!!
I think that is the one where you stand in the middle jump and push down and zoom in to stomp the ground.

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