I don't own an XBox, just a GameCube and PS2. Splinter Cell was the first XBox game I was anxious to play, and what made me look into getting an XBox, but the demo didn't work for me at all. I know there are a lot of people waiting for me to shove my foot in my mouth, which I will do if the final version doesn't have the problems of the demo. It will still be a while before I can get one anyway, along with any more games for any systems - I have hardly any money, and a loan to pay off. By the time I can afford to get one(unless there's someone who wants a big stack of DVDs in trade), PDO should be out, and hopefully Ninja Gaiden(don't know its release date, so maybe not). Those are the only games I'm looking forward to at this point.
We'll find out next week, or as soon as I can get a rental copy.

All you have to do is wait for the PS2/GCN version to come out though.

If he doesn't like the Xbox version then what makes you think he will like a yet inferior version on the PS2 or GC?

How big a stack of DVDs are we talking about, out of curiosity?

Didn't we establish that it wasn't the demo that had the problems?

No.

Yes.

More Splinter Cell suckage!

Extended Play gives Splinter Cell a pitiful 5 out of 5.

http://www.techtv.com/extendedplay/r...407489,00.html

I just read that review, I think it's very obvious that the reviewer from EP is on the ball. I mean, just look at this quoe from the review:

Maybe John Clancy is better than Tom?

I always thought Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell sounded kind of off. Now, John Clancy's Spinter Cell, that's catchy!

John and Tom both suck. Tim Clancy is the best.

This is great news! I'll be dusting my X-Box off and enjoying this game soon. Now, the only problem is trying to find time to play all these games.

This is a little late but... Just played the demo from the Xbox exhibition disc.

I didn't have a problem with clipping, one head shot and the guys died, they didn't find the bodies, could know people out nicely with my forearm, Split thingy does look a bit awkward but I guess it would in real life anyway, cans sounded like, well, cans.

The problem I had was there is NO V-SYNC, it's friggin' insane to see that much of an uhm, refresh problem in an Xbox game.

The demo was short and easy and I agree a few things are a little to chromized, but it's a minor complaint. Seems a cool game, I just hope they enable the sync and that the missions are "inspiried", the demo one was a little bit lacking - but the game seems interesting no less (Definitly the best on the disc, Panzer Dragoon Orta was a little bit disappointing and most of the others were just downright bad. That being said - can't judge from demos really.)

Weird - I didn't have any V-Sync problems. It looked smooth as silk to me.

curious - you in HD?

Well, that's one complaint I don't have - no refresh problems.

Am I in HD? I don't know what that means.

Oh - do I have a HD set? Kinda - it's a Sony Hi-Def 61"

Ah well, I'll test it out on my HD set tommorrow morning and see if that fixes it, it only seemed bad near the beginning, was kind of strange - have never seen it in an xbox game before.

Folks, It looks like Kingsmooth was right on the money. Splinter Cell continues the Suckage Parade:

IGN gives Splinter Cell a 9.6. For those keeping track, that's an average score of 9.8 out of 10 from the 4 reviews.

Here's some more tidbits of the IGN review:

Graphics

If you didn't know already Splinter Cell has some of the most impressive lighting effects, character models and animation ever seen in a videogame. If this title wasn't so fun, the visuals would easily be its strong point.

The lighting in Splinter Cell, as we said, isn't just some effect where you have lamp in a room but that room itself is actually lit by some mysterious off camera source. Ubi Soft Montreal has simulated the behavior of light to the point where everything is self shadowing, and the only way you're able to see what's going on in the game is because of the lighting device in the scene you're playing. Whether it's overhead halogens, a bank of monitors or the glow of a brilliant full moon, you'll always know where light is shining from and so you'll be able to anticipate where and how shadows will fall and which ones need to be shot out. The developers even simulated the different shines you get from banks of several halogens versus the harsh lighting from a single exposed light bulb in a dingy hallway. Light shines through trees, latticework and even chain link fences and falls on whatever may be on the other side. So when Sam is facing a giant glowing billboard whilst hanging from a chain link fence the fence will cast a network of shadows on him with the glow of the billboard lighting the negative spaces.

Closing Comments

This is the kind of game I imagined when I used to dream about the experiences next generation consoles were going to give us. Splinter Cell is one of the smartest games I've ever played in that it challenged me to lose myself in this world of espionage and to use everything I think I know about secret operatives to get through it. While there were plenty of times I would get caught in a trial-error-death cycle trying to clear a certain part of the game, I never once felt helpless or confused to the point where I was ready to blame the developers for poor level design or something. When you run into a difficult part in Splinter Cell that's just kicking your hide, it only means you're not thinking outside the box and exploring all of your options. It's not quite as open as a Grand Theft Auto game, but there are unorthodox ways of solving some problems. But in this world of super spies, there's no such thing as unorthodox, just do or die.
This game literally shines on the Xbox and has enough gameplay hours to satisfy dedicated Halo junkies who've been waiting for the next landmark single player game on the system. Since you can play with varying degrees of stealth and aggression, you'll have every reason to play through Splinter Cell multiple times.

I often found myself saying "Whoa, I don't know if gamers are going to be ready for that." But once Splinter Cell is in your system, and this game has a perfectly balanced learning curve, you will be ready for all it has to offer.

I think this game sucks, I need to get an xbox and buy this game asap to enjoy the suckiness of it all.

All I've seen so far are 100 % Reviews and the IGN 9.6 Review. Hmm.. All this suckiness yet I can't find ONE sucky Review. Maybe some of you guys need to make your own web site real quick and write a Spliter Cell sucks Review and turn it in to Game Rankings to help your case.


Point to be noted here is that you can't please 100% of the people. Some people think the next Zelda looks great and I think it looks like FLAT Poop on a platter. See, they probably will not make me happy with paper Zelda regardless of the review scores and remarks.

Flay, now you're bordering KingSmoth bashing. If you disagree with KingSmoth's opinion, then just point out why you like Splinter Cell. Comments like "More Splinter Cell suckage! Extended Play gives Splinter Cell a pitiful 5 out of 5." and the quote above are unnecessary and destructive to the discussion.

Thank you for your cooperation.

namja
Moderator, DVD Talk Forums

Okay guys, we get it. Some people didn't like the game/demo, and some people disagree with that assessment. There's no need to make a disagreement over the quality of some lines of code into something personal.

(Edit: Oops... didn't see namja's comments before posting.)