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YujiNaka 08-12-02 01:01 PM

More evidence of Rare going 3rd party?
 
From Magic Box:

"Rareware has removed the preview pages for Donkey Kong Racing for GameCube and Donkey Kong: Coconut Crackers for GameBoy Advance in their website. This seems to be an indication of the company moving forward to become a third party developer for all major platforms."

Post any other tidbits/rumors/info if you find it.. Rare going 3rd party could be one of the biggest stories of the year...

Of course, Rare going 3rd party and primarily working for Gamecube, or Rare going 3rd party and equally going at all 3 systems would also be a big story too.

-Jim

Groucho 08-12-02 01:04 PM

That sucks. I was looking forward to Donkey Kong Racing. Maybe it'll come out in a more generic form, using Rare characters instead of Nintendo ones. The game looked pretty sweet, and I was a big fan of Diddy Kong Racing on the N64.

Liver&Onions 08-12-02 01:06 PM

Or it could mean they are updating the pages with more info, and simply took down the old ones.

Until we see more real proof, this is a rumor.

Shawn 08-12-02 02:12 PM

I really want Perfect Dark 0 to come out on the Xbox!

Kellehair 08-12-02 02:56 PM

I'm sure Nintendo covered some of the development costs for those 2 games. I doubt Rare could just cancel them.

boobietheclown 08-12-02 03:19 PM


Originally posted by Shawn
I really want Perfect Dark 0 to come out on the Xbox!
indeed!

YujiNaka 08-12-02 03:30 PM

Maybe Nintendo cancelled them because they were taking too long? Who knows.

Maybe they arent even cancelled..

-Jim

Groucho 08-12-02 03:34 PM

I don't care what platform Perfect Dark 0 comes out on...I just want it in my lifetime.

IIG 08-12-02 03:59 PM

Rare is going third party! I don't know why it this is still being discussed like it's still just a rumor. Sure it has not been officially announced, but only a fool with wool over there eyes can't see it. As a huge Nintendo follower, I've moved on, and so should the world.

Star Fox Adventures is a first day pick-up by the way...

Shawn 08-12-02 05:42 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
I don't care what platform Perfect Dark 0 comes out on...I just want it in my lifetime.
:lol:

ScandalUMD 08-12-02 07:31 PM

If this thing was signed, sealed and delivered, Microsoft would have announced it at their big press event last week. There are problems between Rare and Nintendo, but it would be difficult for Rare to go multiplatform.

If they were working on Xbox, somebody would have announced it. Microsoft has nothing to gain by holding anything back. If they were working with Sony, that might be kept a secret.

More likely, they're still wrangling with Nintendo, while making threats and yanking gamers' chains to improve their positions. There's a lot of history between these two companies, and, of course, Nintendo owns 25% of Rare, as well as the Twycross facility.

Shawn 08-12-02 07:37 PM


Originally posted by ScandalUMD
If they were working with Sony, that might be kept a secret.

Why not?

huh? 08-12-02 08:04 PM

i heard once that chronic masturbation made you go blind and your palms go hairy....


no ...

wait...

that was just more unsubstantiated fact....



seriously, do we need a "more evidence of rare going third party" thread? i mean, when was the last time they put out a game for any system? seriously? does it even matter? say they do go third party.... then xbox and ps2 owners can sit around a pretend that their games will be released on time just like nintendo owners do now....

lets just let it go.... when the news is OFFICIALLY ANNOUCNED it will be worth discussing.... until then, it does about as much good as a used condom...

ScandalUMD 08-12-02 08:11 PM


Originally posted by Shawn

Why not?

Sony has an installed base of 20 million more than Xbox and GC combined. They can hold a card back.

Microsoft needs a boost badly in Europe. If they had Rare, they'd be yelling from the rooftops.

Shawn 08-12-02 08:15 PM


Originally posted by ScandalUMD


Sony has an installed base of 20 million more than Xbox and GC combined. They can hold a card back.

Microsoft needs a boost badly in Europe. If they had Rare, they'd be yelling from the rooftops.

What good would it do them to "hold a card back"?

YujiNaka 08-12-02 08:57 PM

If you dont want to participate in the Rare going 3rd party rumors threads, dont read them!

I just dont get why someone would do it, if they arent interested..
It just makes me say Huh?

-Jim

zig 08-12-02 09:24 PM

Why would Rare need to improve their position with Nintendo? They already get a ton of funding for their huge game developments from Nintendo don't they? How is saying "we're going to stop taking your funding by going multiplatform! but since you still own part of us, we'll still make games for your system!" going to help them anyway. Woo.. what a big threat. I mean, I realize that it would be a very good idea to hold on to Rare, but it's not like it will determine their fates if Rare makes games for other systems.

darkside 08-12-02 09:36 PM

I'm glad they are going multiplatform I can't wait to play Perfect Dark 0 on the PS3 and Conker's Bad Fur Day 2 on the Xbox 2.

joltaddict 08-12-02 10:21 PM


Originally posted by huh?
lets just let it go.... when the news is OFFICIALLY ANNOUCNED it will be worth discussing....
Half of what we do here is gossip and speculation. If you really want to avoid it just click on the game specific threads and avoid the obvious rumor-mongering ones.

And Darkside I heard Conker was delayed to the XBox3 at the soonest. ;)

Shawn 08-12-02 11:44 PM


Originally posted by joltaddict


Half of what we do here is gossip and speculation. If you really want to avoid it just click on the game specific threads and avoid the obvious rumor-mongering ones.

Exactly.

Chopper 08-13-02 07:59 AM


Originally posted by ScandalUMD


Sony has an installed base of 20 million more than Xbox and GC combined. They can hold a card back.

Microsoft needs a boost badly in Europe. If they had Rare, they'd be yelling from the rooftops.

I disagree. I bought a GameCube partially b/c of the Rare games. If I knew that Rare would be putting out games on the PS2, I would have probably bought one of those instead. By holding back that card, they could lose system sales (which, in turn, leads to the loss of software sales).

Shawn 08-13-02 12:12 PM


Originally posted by Chopper


I disagree. I bought a GameCube partially b/c of the Rare games. If I knew that Rare would be putting out games on the PS2, I would have probably bought one of those instead. By holding back that card, they could lose system sales (which, in turn, leads to the loss of software sales).

I agree with you, I don't understand what Sony would have to gain by "holding a card back". Scandal, when you get a chance, please explain.

lesterlong 08-13-02 12:33 PM

Why does it matter so much if Rare goes 3rd Party?
 
They had like maybe 2 good games and that was it. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Anyone want to share some light on why Rare is so great?

Shawn 08-13-02 12:43 PM

They are one of the best(if not the best) Nintendo-exclusive developing companies. Losing them might be a huge blow to Nintendo.

Groucho 08-13-02 12:44 PM

While I think this is an important discussion for this forum, I don't understand why we need multiple threads for it.


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