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Giantrobo 08-07-23 05:51 PM

The Unpopular TV Show/Series Opinion Thread
 
I tried Search to see if we had one already and didn't find one. So barring DVDtalk's shitty Search screwing me, here it is.

-I'm only in season 1 but so far Star Trek TOS is a bit of chore to get through.
-M*A*S*H was great, and even as a youngster I watched it faithfully..... but allowing it to become the "Hawkeye/Alan Alda Show" was a misstep.
-Graham Norton is THE GREATEST Chat Show Host on Earth. Everyone else doing a chat show should watch him and learn.
-I think we need to find a happy medium between the New 10ep Series and 26ep Series format.

DJariya 08-07-23 05:56 PM

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1 hour procedural dramas don't suck.

It doesn't need to be serialized with a deep mythology to be good or compelling.

6 episode "seasons" on Disney + suck. TV seasons should be at least 13 or more. Anything below that is a mini series.

MLBFan24 08-07-23 06:17 PM

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Game of Thrones is overrated. Sure, when the writers had source material, it was fine. And then they had to write stories without source material towards the end.....

fujishig 08-07-23 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MLBFan24 (Post 14306375)
Game of Thrones is overrated. Sure, when the writers had source material, it was fine. And then they had to write stories without source material towards the end.....

This is the unpopular TV show opinion thread. If you said "man Game of Thrones really stuck the landing" or "hey it really took off after they ran out of book to adapt" then that would be something.

Gizmo 08-07-23 06:33 PM

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[QUOTE=DJariya; 6 episode "seasons" on Disney + suck. TV seasons should be at least 13 or more. Anything below that is a mini series.[/QUOTE]

In 2023 you're gonna have a hard time with anything going past 10 episodes a "season" unless it's an old Broadcast show already syndicated or sitcom. Even HBO cut down Winning Time to 7 episodes, The Idol was 5. Shows are just too expensive to keep going with those huge episode orders. With the strike dust settles, expect it even lower.

Im the opposite - very few shows need to be 22 long Some shows likes SVU just know how to do it so well at this point its still economical feasible. 8-10 is the new 13 and 15/16 is the new 22.

Deftones 08-07-23 06:44 PM

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The Idol was only five because it was a fucking complete mess and they had to reshoot many things, going significantly over budget.

Xiroteus 08-07-23 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14306368)
1 hour procedural dramas don't suck.

It doesn't need to be serialized with a deep mythology to be good or compelling.

I have to agree with that. Both can be great yet there are times I just want a complete story within the hour.


Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 14306365)
I tried Search to see if we had one already and didn't find one. So barring DVDtalk's shitty Search screwing me, here it is.

-I'm only in season 1 but so far Star Trek TOS is a bit of chore to get through.

I've seen EVERY other Star Trek show, many more than once. I still have not gotten through TOS. Two episodes in and it drags a bit.

windom 08-07-23 07:35 PM

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When all was said and done, "Twin Peaks" season 3 aka "Twin Peaks: The Return" on Showtime was a giant POS and an awful continuation of the Twin Peaks storyline.

kefrank 08-07-23 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by windom (Post 14306396)
When all was said and done, "Twin Peaks" season 3 aka "Twin Peaks: The Return" on Showtime was a giant POS and an awful continuation of the Twin Peaks storyline.

I agree it was very disappointing. However, Part 8 - Gotta Light? viewed as a standalone film set in the Twin Peaks universe is among the best things Lynch has ever done. I don't need to see any of the other episodes ever again though.

JeffTheAlpaca 08-07-23 08:21 PM

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As a adult I can't watch sitcoms or shows with a laugh track and I feel I am being insulted.

windom 08-07-23 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 14306407)
I agree it was very disappointing. However, Part 8 - Gotta Light? viewed as a standalone film set in the Twin Peaks universe is among the best things Lynch has ever done. I don't need to see any of the other episodes ever again though.

Yeah, there was stuff I liked in there like that episode, but not sure really what it had to do with Twin Peaks. I liked seeing the old characters and some of the new ones. Certain scenes were good, but overall it added up to something that makes the whole Twin Peaks experience worse, IMO. If it had been called something other than Twin Peaks, I might have liked it more as some bizarre experiment from Lynch.

tanman 08-07-23 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MLBFan24 (Post 14306375)
Game of Thrones is overrated. Sure, when the writers had source material, it was fine. And then they had to write stories without source material towards the end.....


Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14306376)
This is the unpopular TV show opinion thread. If you said "man Game of Thrones really stuck the landing" or "hey it really took off after they ran out of book to adapt" then that would be something.


I won't quite go that far but I will say that the last season isn't quite as bad as everyone says it is.

Now let me explain. I didn't watch GoT live like everyone else. I just never got around to it. I was definitely interested so I purposely went out of my way to avoid anything having to do with GoT. I finally binged watched it during the pandemic. So I didn't have all the years of built up expectations like everyone else had. I didn't have time to make my own theories on how the story was going to go only to be disappointed it didn't go that way. I just went right on through the entire series in a few months. Yes the last season was bad compared with the rest of the series. Mainly in that it was disappointing just how rushed it was. There was definitely potential there to go on for several more seasons and I was pretty mad when I found out it was really the show runners who wanted to end things. I thought it had gotten too expensive for HBO and they pulled the plug. It really doesn't flow as a series. The first few seasons goes by so slowly in terms of actual plot happening because there are so many story threads to go through. The build up was just so immense that when the resolution comes I don't know if anything they could have done would have lived up those expectations. But binge watching it for the first time it wasn't nearly as disappointing for me as it was for everyone else.

Toby Dramit 08-07-23 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 14306407)
Part 8 - Gotta Light? viewed as a standalone film set in the Twin Peaks universe is among the best things Lynch has ever done.

Agree with this. Incredible episode.

kd5 08-09-23 04:54 AM

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My wife and I binge-watched Game of Thrones just recently. We both enjoyed the series even if it was a bit bloody at times (watching while we're eating dinner, wasn't quite as bad as watching The Walking Dead while trying to eat, but still...).

My only complaint is that I think that the time investment for watching Game of Thrones ended badly, a rather unsatisfying conclusion to an otherwise great series. I don't know how GRRM would have concluded things, perhaps we'll never know, but the writers could've taken a bit more time to write a satisfying conclusion. I felt let down.

fujishig 08-09-23 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14306439)
I won't quite go that far but I will say that the last season isn't quite as bad as everyone says it is.

Now let me explain. I didn't watch GoT live like everyone else. I just never got around to it. I was definitely interested so I purposely went out of my way to avoid anything having to do with GoT. I finally binged watched it during the pandemic. So I didn't have all the years of built up expectations like everyone else had. I didn't have time to make my own theories on how the story was going to go only to be disappointed it didn't go that way. I just went right on through the entire series in a few months. Yes the last season was bad compared with the rest of the series. Mainly in that it was disappointing just how rushed it was. There was definitely potential there to go on for several more seasons and I was pretty mad when I found out it was really the show runners who wanted to end things. I thought it had gotten too expensive for HBO and they pulled the plug. It really doesn't flow as a series. The first few seasons goes by so slowly in terms of actual plot happening because there are so many story threads to go through. The build up was just so immense that when the resolution comes I don't know if anything they could have done would have lived up those expectations. But binge watching it for the first time it wasn't nearly as disappointing for me as it was for everyone else.

Ha, still sounds like it was really disappointing just not as much since you were prepared. I'm also in the camp of "I don't absolutely revile it but man there was a steady drop in quality of the storylines whenever they branched out past the books." Like it doesn't make me sad like, say, the last episode of HIMYM.

Gizmo 08-09-23 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by windom (Post 14306396)
When all was said and done, "Twin Peaks" season 3 aka "Twin Peaks: The Return" on Showtime was a giant POS and an awful continuation of the Twin Peaks storyline.

Showtime had initially ordered 9 episodes and Lynch threw a fucking hissy fit online and gave him 18. It was a complete POS and the only Twin Peaks was the last few episodes. I know people idolize this man who has done almost nothing in decades, and he sure did deliver a steaming pile of shit. Why was Agent Cooper acting like an idiot for 17 episodes? I don’t remember. Terrible, terrible continuation. It should have been 6-8 episodes

Gunde 08-09-23 08:46 AM

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Breaking Bad is not in the top 5 of all time. It's a great show, but many are.

DJariya 08-09-23 06:00 PM

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Criminal Minds or now Criminal Minds: Evolution is one of the best 1 hour crime procedural dramas of all-time.

PhantomStranger 08-09-23 10:09 PM

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Like most, I agree the Simpsons fell apart after season 9 and by season 12 had become almost unwatchable. That streak ran all the way until things started turning around when the show went fully HD in season 20. There's a nice stretch of solid seasons from about 21 through seasons 25 or 26. Maybe not at the level of the Golden Age but solid, passable Simpsons. Then it quickly fell apart again and has become nigh unwatchable in recent seasons. Nothing after season 30 is redeemable.

MR Round 08-10-23 01:37 AM

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The Sopranos is boring and horribly written

milo bloom 08-10-23 09:06 AM

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My wife recently discovered Jeeves and Wooster and kept trying to get me into it and I watch an episode and it’s full of blackface and I told her that every single person on that show deserves death by cholera.

RichC2 08-10-23 09:17 AM

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I agree with the "Breaking Bad is excellent but..." sentiment. It's a super cartoony show (which isn't bad in and of itself) and lost me for stretches of multiple episodes at a time. Of course, I was watching it week to week back then.

Also, the Tarantino episodes of CSI were awful, as was a vast majority of the series.


Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 14306365)
I tried Search to see if we had one already and didn't find one. So barring DVDtalk's shitty Search screwing me, here it is.

-I'm only in season 1 but so far Star Trek TOS is a bit of chore to get through.
-M*A*S*H was great, and even as a youngster I watched it faithfully..... but allowing it to become the "Hawkeye/Alan Alda Show" was a misstep.
-Graham Norton is THE GREATEST Chat Show Host on Earth. Everyone else doing a chat show should watch him and learn.
-I think we need to find a happy medium between the New 10ep Series and 26ep Series format.

I feel like these are fairly popular viewpoints, especially the 1st, 3rd and 4th.

spainlinx0 08-10-23 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MR Round (Post 14307463)
The Sopranos is boring and horribly written

:sad:

Giantrobo 08-10-23 05:31 PM

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The Sopranos glorified and normalized Organized Crime in much the same way Game of Thrones and related shows glorified and normalized incest. And yes, we all eat it up...

stvn1974 08-10-23 05:45 PM

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Well since there is a lot of Twin Peaks the Return hate going on I will say that you are all wrong and should be ashamed of yourselves. I think it is brilliant.

If Damon Lindelof was any less talented he would be JJ Abrams.

The Sci-Fi Channel shows such as Twelve Monkeys, Haven, Warehouse 13, Eureka and Continuum are better than most critically acclaimed shows that get nominated and win awards.

Grimm is also underrated.


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