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Jay G. 08-12-23 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Draven (Post 14308312)
If I don’t get it right, do I have to drink from the firehose?


Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14308368)
Only if you didn’t find the marble in the Oatmeal.

You guys have that backwards: you get to drink from the firehose if you find the marble in the oatmeal, it was the prize.


Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14308368)
And Futurama is far more rewatchable than the Simpsons any day of the week. My wife and I haven’t really been interested in The Simpsons for years but we’ll rewatch Futurama all the time.

I assume you're also a fan of Star Trek: Lower Decks, based on your avatar?

Goldberg74 seems to have eschewed all animated comedies, which is... a choice, I guess. However, there's a wide variety of content even within that narrow genre, and just not liking The Simpsons doesn't mean you'll dislike all the others. @Goldberg74 , do you just avoid animated comedies, or do you also avoid other types of animated shows?

Draven 08-12-23 02:52 PM

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I did consider the way I phrased my UHF response but felt it fit the spirit of the joke.

I saw UHF in theaters at a sneak peek weeks before it came out and Weird Al is my favorite artist of all time. I know my UHF :)

Michael Corvin 08-12-23 03:18 PM

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Unpopular opinion but Friends is more re-watchable than Seinfeld. Seems like despite being the #1 show the world over for a handful of years, Friends reached a point where it gets nothing but backlash anymore.

I rewatched the whole series earlier in the year with my two teens and it's still as funny as ever because it's buoyed by phenomenal casting. They sold and just embodied their roles and had killer chemistry together.

Why So Blu? 08-12-23 04:28 PM

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Vinyl was a great show. Yeah, I said it.

TheAllPurposeNothing 08-12-23 10:38 PM

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Breaking Bad's first season was kind of a chore to sit through, so much so that I have never felt any desire to see any of the other seasons. It wasn't bad per se, but the characters and story never grabbed me. While my sons have both said that it starts really getting good around the third season, it's just not worth the additional investment of time to me to even get that far.

The Big Bang Theory is one of the worst written comedies I have ever seen. While I liked the cast, I will never understand the appeal of that series.




TheMovieman 08-12-23 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 14308481)
Unpopular opinion but Friends is more re-watchable than Seinfeld. Seems like despite being the #1 show the world over for a handful of years, Friends reached a point where it gets nothing but backlash anymore.

I rewatched the whole series earlier in the year with my two teens and it's still as funny as ever because it's buoyed by phenomenal casting. They sold and just embodied their roles and had killer chemistry together.

Might agree with that.

As a side, whenever I see Seinfeld in syndication and its episodes from the first two seasons, I pass. The first season in particular is hard to watch, partially because it was of course trying to find its footing, but also it was a show trying to be something.

Goldberg74 08-12-23 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14308378)
Goldberg74 seems to have eschewed all animated comedies, which is... a choice, I guess. However, there's a wide variety of content even within that narrow genre, and just not liking The Simpsons doesn't mean you'll dislike all the others. @Goldberg74 , do you just avoid animated comedies, or do you also avoid other types of animated shows

To be honest, I’m not really sure why I skipped over them. I think that my dislike for The Simpsons and Matt Groening’s work bled over to Family Guy and by association it’s spin-offs (or rather Fox shows in general).

I do like other types of animated shows: Total Drama Island (and it’s many flavors), 6teen, Star Wars cartoons (from Clone Wars to Rebels to Resistance), and a slew of cartoons I watched with my kids… and I guess I’ll admit that I have seen every episode of Yu-Gi-Oh.

And I looooove Star Trek: Lower Decks. 😇

So yes, I do watch animated shows and have actually lectured about the history of vector-based Flash animated shows at universities and conferences as part of my early academic research (… but that’s another post).

I do appreciate what those animated comedies bring to the table as far as entertainment and milestones in the genre, but it’s just kind of meh for me.

South Park, Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Ren & Stimpy are others that I avoid while shows like Powerpuff Girls, The Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Fairly Odd Parents, and Chowder capture my attention from time to time.

Bottom line: We all like what we like and don’t like what we don’t.

And to tag on to another line of thought: I love Friends and have watched the series through several times.

Draven 08-13-23 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAllPurposeNothing (Post 14308569)
Breaking Bad's first season was kind of a chore to sit through, so much so that I have never felt any desire to see any of the other seasons. It wasn't bad per se, but the characters and story never grabbed me. While my sons have both said that it starts really getting good around the third season, it's just not worth the additional investment of time to me to even get that far.

My wife bailed on Breaking Bad after 6 episodes and I was right there with her. But I went back and powered on, eventually finishing and enjoying the series. I’ll never revisit it though - it has zero rewatchability to me.

Jay G. 08-13-23 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Draven (Post 14308600)
My wife bailed on Breaking Bad after 6 episodes and I was right there with her. But I went back and powered on, eventually finishing and enjoying the series. I’ll never revisit it though - it has zero rewatchability to me.

Did you also watch Better Call Saul? It may be more accessible, especially since I think it's good out the gate.

Draven 08-13-23 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14308629)
Did you also watch Better Call Saul? It may be more accessible, especially since I think it's good out the gate.

I did not. My son did and says it’s great. I keep forgetting to add it to my list but I’ll make it a priority!

Runaway 08-13-23 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAllPurposeNothing (Post 14308569)
The Big Bang Theory is one of the worst written comedies I have ever seen. While I liked the cast, I will never understand the appeal of that series.

Most of Chuck Lorre's sitcoms are terrible, at least everything after Dharma & Greg. Two and a Half Men, The Big Bang Theory, Mom and Mike & Molly have basically one joke, which plays in a loop and isn't even that funny. TBBT is the worst though.

spainlinx0 08-14-23 07:46 AM

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Parks and Rec is vastly superior to the Office.

fujishig 08-14-23 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 14308951)
Parks and Rec is vastly superior to the Office.

Again, probably not an unpopular opinion unless you say something like Parks and Rec season 1 was the best or something. ;)

spainlinx0 08-14-23 08:30 AM

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I figured maybe it qualified considering how popular the Office is for streaming, but I don't hear anywhere close to that regarding Parks and Rec.

milo bloom 08-14-23 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 14308962)
I figured maybe it qualified considering how popular the Office is for streaming, but I don't hear anywhere close to that regarding Parks and Rec.

I get more people recommending me Parks & Rec over The Office. Just the other day I was checking out at the store and I had a Bob's Burgers t-shirt on and the cashier noticed and said she liked it and recommended I should also watch P&R. She even said it's a slow start so I should watching some later episodes then go back and start from the beginning.

My wife and I have tried but that first season is rough.

fujishig 08-14-23 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14309157)
I get more people recommending me Parks & Rec over The Office. Just the other day I was checking out at the store and I had a Bob's Burgers t-shirt on and the cashier noticed and said she liked it and recommended I should also watch P&R. She even said it's a slow start so I should watching some later episodes then go back and start from the beginning.

My wife and I have tried but that first season is rough.

Yeah, just skip that first season, like seriously.

Michael Corvin 08-14-23 04:53 PM

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Both Parks n Rec and the Office each had about 3 great seasons. One was kinda terrible out of the gate and took 2 years to find its footing, the other started great and plateaued 3-ish seasons in and was a long slow decline to the bottom.

tanman 08-15-23 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14308080)
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion, at least online.

I have a true unpopular opinion: audience laughter (not canned laughter, although I've seen both referred to as a "laugh track") is fine, and maybe even a good thing, depending on the show. SNL has had an audience for decades, as have a lot of sketch shows over the years. Late night shows have an audience, stand up specials have an audience. Even 30 Rock had a live audience for its two live episodes.

The key seems to be a live audience for a "live" performance, even if pre-taped. So something like the standard 3-camera sitcom stage setup, not for single-camera sitcoms. For me, the gold standard is the TV show Titus, where in the commentary on the DVD set, they go into how they wanted to keep the show as much like a live 1-act play for the audience:
  • They kept the live performance limited to a single set per episode. This limited the amount of "down-time" between scenes due to set/lighting changes
  • They pre-recorded any flashbacks/cutaways.
  • They hired the director of the Emmys to direct the episodes, basically cutting the episode "live' by inserting the pre-recorded bit during the recording with the audience, to capture the audience's genuine reaction to those, in more-or less real-time.
  • Limit the amount of retakes so the audience doesn't tire from hearing the same joke repeatedly.
I think it really works for that show, and if you removed the audience laughter, it'd be a lesser show. The issue is, most laugh-track shows, even those that record in front of an audience, are lazy, and play to the easy-to-please audience instead of making the show clever or interesting. Likewise, the audience can sometimes get obnoxious, like later seasons of Married with Children where there's like a minute of cheering whenever a cast member enters, before they even do anything. But largely the problem with laugh tracks isn't that they exist, but all too often they're done poorly.

I agree. While I can see how people can really hate them and it would be difficult for a modern sitcom to go back to a laugh track. I've never minded them. Sitcoms to me are the pinnacle of turn off your brain and just sit back and enjoy type of media. So it's never bothered me. It's pretty nostalgic now.

In that same vein I don't really get the elitism that happens sometimes with sitcoms. It's not exactly high art. Every show is someone's favorite. Besides, we all know Frasier is the greatest sitcom of all time. ;)

tanman 08-15-23 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAllPurposeNothing (Post 14308569)
The Big Bang Theory is one of the worst written comedies I have ever seen. While I liked the cast, I will never understand the appeal of that series.

That's not an unpopular opinion. It's very popular to hate on TBBT.

I really like The Big Bang Theory - now THAT's an unpopular TV Show/Series Opinion.

fujishig 08-15-23 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14309395)
That's not an unpopular opinion. It's very popular to hate on TBBT.

I really like The Big Bang Theory - now THAT's an unpopular TV Show/Series Opinion.

It's probably an unpopular internet opinion, but ratings-wise, a lot of people must have liked TBBT even above and beyond the other Chuck Lorre shows which are also generally hated on online but had huge ratings.

GoldenJCJ 08-15-23 11:59 AM

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The big three Networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) are stuck in an outdated program model that they are making a conscious effort NOT to address. Sitcoms in general are antiquated, laugh track or not. They’ve resigned themselves to the same few hour-long dramas they’ve been putting on the air for 50 years - Cops, lawyers, doctors.

They know cable shows have reinvented the TV landscape but the Networks are happy to live in the past.

cultshock 08-15-23 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 14308493)
Vinyl was a great show. Yeah, I said it.

I'm with you on that one, I really enjoyed the show. :up:


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 14309564)
They’ve resigned themselves to the same few hour-long dramas they’ve been putting on the air for 50 years - Cops, lawyers, doctors.

Maybe unpopular opinion: I have zero fucking interest in any of those kinds of shows.

milo bloom 08-15-23 04:41 PM

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The doctor ones are occasionally interesting when they're trying to figure out a weird disease, but all those procedurals create this false expectation in the viewers that that's how it works, especially the cop shows not getting evidence properly, or being able to track down someone by enhancing a cruddy picture.

Giantrobo 08-15-23 06:02 PM

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Cop Procedurals like Law and Order have made people think shutting up and asking for a Lawyer always means you are guilty.... and not just simply YOUR RIGHT and the best thing to do in your situation..

tanman 08-15-23 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14309684)
The doctor ones are occasionally interesting when they're trying to figure out a weird disease, but all those procedurals create this false expectation in the viewers that that's how it works, especially the cop shows not getting evidence properly, or being able to track down someone by enhancing a cruddy picture.

John Oliver did a whole segment on L&O.


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