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Old 07-13-22 | 10:24 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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if we don't get at least one more scene with Lyle -- working his extended shifts at the restaurant -- then this show has failed us all.
Funny, I thought something similar. In the grand scheme, the storyline is somewhat trivial and may not have needed several minutes of airtime to play out on screen, but serves both as a send-off for Lyle and a reminder of how meticulous Gus is.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

I still wonder why Lalo let Kim go instead of Jimmy. If his plan is to use the Goodmans as a secondary diversion while he goes to the Superlab, then sending Jimmy makes a lot more sense. There's a good chance if Kim actually goes to Gus' place, they wouldn't know who she was and would just kill her without making the Jimmy connection. I suppose you can explain away that Lalo knows that Mike would know who she was, but it would have made a lot more sense to insist that Jimmy go.
Old 07-13-22 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

Originally Posted by JZ1276
Are you making this statement after seeing Gus planting the gun and counting the amount of footsteps to the gun during the last episode or did you miss that? This was his plan all along. To cut the power, retrieve the gun in darkness and shoot Lalo.
I actually forgot all about that. But the whole thing, even with that, makes it seem like he had some kind of magic time crystal-ball.
Old 07-13-22 | 12:06 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

Why exactly did Gus hide the gun down there? He's always been one step ahead of Lalo, bugging the nursing home, etc. Did the writers feel like he just had this weird sense that he might need it for some odd scenario?

That was what we felt like. When we were talking about it, it's like, "Okay, Mike's going to want to give Gus a gun for self-defense." But we also kind of thought, "In what world is Gus going to have a gun concealed on his ankle and be able to get to it if Lao has gotten through all his other guards?" If Lalo's done all of this — like he does, he gets through all of Gus' men, mows them down like a field of wheat — is Gus going to drop and roll and pull a gun out and shoot him? That's not Gus' style. It's not his forte. It's not where his strengths lay. But where his strengths lay are in being kind of weirdly prepared for contingencies that nobody else would be prepared for. So I think him putting it there is just — there's a chance that this all ends here. This is the thing that Lalo wants most.
Old 07-13-22 | 12:56 PM
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Old 07-13-22 | 01:09 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

I do have an issue with what I think was the gun being placed directly on the tracks of the excavator. What if someone had to dig a hole? I don't think it's SOP to check for guns before moving equipment.
Old 07-13-22 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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I do have an issue with what I think was the gun being placed directly on the tracks of the excavator. What if someone had to dig a hole? I don't think it's SOP to check for guns before moving equipment.
Perhaps Gus put all work on hold until the Lalo problem was solved.
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Old 07-13-22 | 03:18 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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Perhaps Gus put all work on hold until the Lalo problem was solved.
He actually put all work on hold at the end of Season 4.
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Old 07-13-22 | 04:16 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

To me this episode had the inherent flaw of this being a prequel series. There was no suspense in the Lalo/Gus scene for me because we already know when and how Gus dies. So at a certain point it pretty much meant Lalo had to die.

I did like how Mike already knows all of the bull shit that Jimmy and Kim have been running on Howard. And I liked his disdain about it. Mike is really the only character left who has a code.
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Old 07-13-22 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysd
I get what you are saying about Saul getting his come uppance but I do believe that they have laid many many many breadcrumbs that Jimmy and Kim will meet up again in Nebraska. And Jesse did get a happy ending as well so not unprecedented.
I'm not doubting a Jimmy & Kim reunion. But this show has always been about actions and their consequences. Jesse gets to live. But he def didn't get a happy ending. Jane died. They killed his new gf. Brock grows up without a mother. He will never see his family again. He's on the lamb in Alaska all alone atoning for the mistakes he made. And I see a similar style ending for this.

Sure they'll give the moment of Kim & Jimmy meeting up again. But there is going to be consequences. I think more likely than not Jimmy finds his way back to her but seconds after their embrace he is made. He either gets captured and spends life in prison. Or he's killed in a police shootout trying to apprehend him. You get that sweet moment of them reuniting. But you immediately get the tragic ending of Jimmy dying in her arms or something like that.

I would put A LOT of money on this not having some sweet heartwarming ending. That's just not how this universe has ever worked. You might get a glimmer of heartwarming, but the conclusion is going to be heartbreak.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

My biggest question is how did they get the machine down there and how do they get it out.
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Old 07-13-22 | 10:32 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

Amazon Prime is selling BCS Season 6 for $9.99 for Prime members. If you want to keep it in digital format, that's a great price.
Old 07-14-22 | 08:45 AM
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I am happy that the over the top Lalo 'Terminator" story line is over and we can get back to the main story at hand.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

Originally Posted by Michael T Hudson
My biggest question is how did they get the machine down there and how do they get it out.
I actually thought about that too!
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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Amazon Prime is selling BCS Season 6 for $9.99 for Prime members. If you want to keep it in digital format, that's a great price.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve been using the AMC app with provider credentials from my mom’s cable service but the quality through their app is so shitty I’m happy to pay $10 to see the final episodes in decent quality.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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Maybe "Gene" will just be reunited with Huell instead of Kim.

Maybe the real Kim was the Huells we made along the way.
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It'd be great if the location was Belize
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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My biggest question is how did they get the machine down there and how do they get it out.
Originally Posted by Timber
I actually thought about that too!
There is an elevator.
Old 07-16-22 | 09:33 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

Originally Posted by Michael T Hudson
My biggest question is how did they get the machine down there and how do they get it out.
At some point they had to have a fairly large hole. That's how they got the excavator down there. As for getting it out, they probably didn't. They just dig a hole with it, drove it into the hole, and bury it. Happens a lot with tunneling equipment.

So Howard and Lalo have an excavator to play with for all eternity!
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Old 07-18-22 | 01:12 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
And, as expected, Mike didn't let them know that Lalo was dead. So, as far as Saul is concerned, Lalo could still resurface at any time. Might have been a nice gesture if Mike said "He's dead. I buried the body myself," but he would never come out and say that to anyone who didn't need to know.
Saul doesn't know that Lalo is dead when he is first introduced in BB. When Walt and Jesse have him at gunpoint in their ski masks, the first thing Saul says is "Did Lalo send you?"
Old 07-18-22 | 08:34 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

He's been told Lalo is dead. But he's been told that before and Lalo still came back to terrorize him.. So he has every right to be dubious.
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Old 07-18-22 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E08) - "Point and Shoot" - 7/11/22

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He's been told Lalo is dead. But he's been told that before and Lalo still came back to terrorize him.. So he has every right to be dubious.
Or, Saul could could think that Lalo built in redundancy and back-up, in the event he never returned. He knows the Cartel is a large organization, so why would he assume Lalo is a lone wolf?

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