Paff

You jest, but a few weeks ago I began watching Shameless season 1. I don't know all the details (no spoilers please), but my understanding is that the characters who are young kids in the beginning start having much more adult storylines as it progresses.

Coral

Didn't care much for this episode as it was just a re-hash of the Vegas episode 6 seasons ago - and it wasn't done nearly as well.

Was Alex already moved out of the Dunphy house before moving to this new building - or is this the first time permanently moving out? I don't recall a story line regarding it, and thinking with the dearth of decent story lines, that could've been one.

Paff

I thought her company put her up in the condo temporarily as a "perk" while working on her current project, not that she was a permanent resident. I admit, I didn't pay attention as much during the episode's setup, but it improved along the way, eventually garnering my complete attention.

Coral

I was thinking that as well as she said they "put her up", but there were other things that made me think she actually lived there - can't remember what though.... and that putting her up meant payed for her rent as I believe she was working for a wealthy company and she herself was also making good money.

mphtrilogy

I thought this ep was quite fun...

Paff

I'm just glad this final season isn't a ton of schmaltzy farewells, with everything geared towards this being the end (though I'm sure we'll get a few episodes like that as the finale draws near). Hell, even Cheers' final season had Sam getting therapy for sex addiction as well as revealing he's been wearing a toupee for years.

Michael Corvin

Agreed. It reminded me of the Frasier episode at the cabin where everyone keeps coming in and out of each room. Haven't seen that one since it aired though.

Count Dooku

That episode is one of the series' best, and I thought this was a great call back with Merchant as the ultimate servant again. Didn't need that Luke and Manny crap, though.

Joe Schmoe

To each his own... I thought it was nonsense and embarrassing.

Josh-da-man

Well, that was horribly depressing.

windom

Why did Jay refer to Lily as Joe's cousin when she's his niece?

Coral

WTF?

Some boring stuff happens... blah blah blah... Phil connects with his dad again while being concerned about his behaviour... and then ... and then they close with Jay's new dog. Really?

Because the writers don't know what they're doing.

dex14

Because he has dementia and is going to die too.

Paff

Seriously? You guys are now bitching about Pritchett lineage?

They've already addressed the odd relationships due to Jay becoming a parent later in life

Joe: as your brother...
Claire: I will NEVER get used to that

Growing up, my mom had a cousin who was actually close to age to my brother and myself, so we all called him "Cousin Tommy" even though he technically wasn't OUR cousin. So it happens...

GuessWho

Actually, your mom's cousin is your cousin.

Josh-da-man

My family sort of does that, too. I have younger cousins who think of me as "uncle."

It's like, how, technically, Manny is Luke's uncle, but their relationship is more akin to cousins. Likewise, even though Joe may be Claire and Mitchell's brother, their relationship will be more like an aunt/uncle-nephew.

windom

I hope the show ends with Jay dieing and the family being torn apart from fighting over his money.

Paff

Exactly. Alex and Haley always refer to Mitch and Cam as Uncle Mitch and Uncle Cam, yet it would be very weird for them to say "Uncle Joe", even though that's exactly who he is.

Count Dooku

Growing up, I had a cousin who was so much older than me that his kids were close to my age. My family always called him my Uncle John and his wife my Aunt Helen, and their kids were my cousins.

starseed1981

The complaints in this thread are getting completely nonsensical. It’s a closed sitcom guys, not Masterpiece Theatre. And the writing is still better than 99% of network or streaming television.

Goat3001

I checked out of this show a few years ago since it kept getting worse but I figured with this being the final season, I'd get back in for the final stretch. Gotta say, I'm more impressed than I thought I would be. The episodes have been fun and the recent clip show was well done.

A few things I missed in recent seasons:

Didn't know Hailey had twins with Dylan. Did they get married?

I have no idea what Alex is doing now other than seeming to be incredibly successful. I started fading out of this show when she left college and came back home.

Other than the classic mix-up episode at the apartment complex, it seems that Luke has been written off. I guess they ran out of things to do with him. Kind of the same with Manny, it seems.

There's a lot of Joe now, he's cute and has nice one liners.

End of the day, it seems that, at least for the end run, they're focusing on the adults. I think that's a good move.

Rex Fenestrarum

Well, seeing as it debuted on January 9, 2011 and it's 2020 now... yeah, the kids who were teenagers when it started have moved on to adult roles, and kids who were babies or toddlers early in the show's run have speaking roles now.

dex14

Apparently the dog that plays Stella died a few days after filming the finale:
https://ew.com/tv/french-bulldog-ste...tainmentweekly

Count Dooku

That bitch knew to go out on top.

dex14

Series finale tonight.