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Old 03-29-22, 09:10 PM
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
A new name doesnít mean itís not the same character.
Right, but my question still stands. I fully expected the actor to continue playing the already tomboyish female role - but changing it sends a message that trans actors can only play trans characters.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

I would guess it is Pageís choice, but my guess is many trans actors would prefer to play trans rather than a gender they no longer identify with.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I would guess it is Pageís choice, but my guess is many trans actors would prefer to play trans rather than a gender they no longer identify with.
Is that actor a producer? Who cares what an actor thinks...read your lines or we'll get someone else to do it should be the order of business.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by Artman
Is that actor a producer? Who cares what an actor thinks...read your lines or we'll get someone else to do it should be the order of business.
i donít know, but I would guess the producers probably donít want to go out of their way to make Page unhappy. If Page starts giving a lot of interviews saying ďIím a man, but Netflix is telling me I have to play this part as a womanĒ it wouldnít exactly be great press.

Gerard Way, who created the comic and is a producer, uses the pronoun they, so my guess is they are going to be supportive of Page.
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"Sidney Applebaum?"

WTH?

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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by Artman
Is that actor a producer? Who cares what an actor thinks...read your lines or we'll get someone else to do it should be the order of business.
Speaking as someone who produces shows with talent involved, sometimes you do things because it's good to keep them happy. And if they can make it work creatively (and this show is weird enough that they can), then it should be no problem to accommodate.

Not everything is cutthroat - some shops don't want to operate that way.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by Draven
Speaking as someone who produces shows with talent involved, sometimes you do things because it's good to keep them happy. And if they can make it work creatively (and this show is weird enough that they can), then it should be no problem to accommodate.

Not everything is cutthroat - some shops don't want to operate that way.
Right, itís possible that the showrunners wanted to work with the actor in the interest of making an artistic AND cultural statement.
Old 03-30-22, 07:38 PM
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by Draven
Speaking as someone who produces shows with talent involved, sometimes you do things because it's good to keep them happy. And if they can make it work creatively (and this show is weird enough that they can), then it should be no problem to accommodate.

Not everything is cutthroat - some shops don't want to operate that way.
And really that should be true for any good employer. Humans are not disposable or interchangeable.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by ben12
And really that should be true for any good employer. Humans are not disposable or interchangeable.



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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Looks fun!
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Yeah, looks great! I need to find time for a season 2 rewatch. There are several shows I watch that are coming out with new seasons in the next few weeks (this, Stranger Things, The Boys, Peaky Blinders, Westworld, Evil, the new Obi Wan Kenobi series)--I'm gonna be busy.
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Originally Posted by Cellar Door
Yeah, looks great! I need to find time for a season 2 rewatch. There are several shows I watch that are coming out with new seasons in the next few weeks (this, Stranger Things, The Boys, Peaky Blinders, Westworld, Evil, the new Obi Wan Kenobi series)--I'm gonna be busy.
These next few months are nuts with the different series getting going/coming back. Also Ms. Marvel if you're into the whole MCU machine. And I still need to finish Boba Fett and Moon Knight (and get started on latest season of Barry and Atlanta)! Not enough hours in the day!
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Bump as this is out today. First episode has my interest, happy to have this back.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

That hallucination dance sequence had me rolling. I love that one of the replacement kids is a floating cube.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by Deftones
That hallucination dance sequence had me rolling. I love that one of the replacement kids is a floating cube.
The only thing that would have made that better is if it wasn't a hallucination. Watched the first two episodes today, so far so good!
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

I just finished episode 1.

Originally Posted by Deftones
That hallucination dance sequence had me rolling. I love that one of the replacement kids is a floating cube.
Yeah, that whole opening scene was great--especially the dance-off.

Keeping Five in that school boy outfit is getting ridiculous. The actor looks like he's grown a foot since last season. But I guess it's only been a few weeks since season 1 from Five's perspective.

Speaking of Five, Number Five aka 'Sloane' in the Sparrow Academy is played by Genesis Rodriguez! I like how Luther--true to his character--was infatuated with her almost immediately.

I also really liked Vanya's scene near the end with the Sparrow leader, and how she told him to back off or else.

I have no clue yet what that thing in the basement is. Something to do with the Umbrella team causing problems with space-time?

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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

Originally Posted by Deftones
That hallucination dance sequence had me rolling. I love that one of the replacement kids is a floating cube.
I was surprised at how good of dancers they all were. The entire cast had their moves dialed in!

Iím only one episode into the new season but Iím enjoying the Umbrella Academy vs. the Sparrow Academy so far. Iím guessing at some point theyíre going to join forces to take on the fiery orb in the basement.
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Up to episode 7 and Allison has become so unlikeable, but I'm assuming that's the intention. Will be interesting to see if she bounces back (don't know if there is a 4th season planned) by the end.
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I canít figure out why I donít love this show. It looks great.

The closest thing to an emotion it got from me is that the samurais were intense and a bit frightening.

Itís a really well made show with a lot to like. It just doesnít leave me feeling anything.
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I liked this season a lot, but it was a little harder to like some of the characters.

Allison, for one, was used as an antagonist against the rest of the team. Her torment over losing her daughter was made clear, but in the past she was one of the characters that was easiest to like.

Five is still prominent, but not quite as front-and-center this season as he has been in the past. He's always had an abrasive personality, but his leadership and cleverness offset that, and some of that is missing here. And the Commission was mostly absent from the story (save for a part of one episode).

I thought Viktor's transition was handled well, and the scenes with him and Harlan were touching in those episodes, but later if felt like he was kind of useless to the story except when they needed his powers for something.

Ben, of course, is not the same and is very unlikeable now, but that is also on purpose.

I liked Luther and Sloane--glad the big lug finally found love. I kept worrying that she was just playing him and I was waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under him.

Klaus was still pretty fun, and I liked that he was the one doing some detective work about their mothers.

Diego and Lila make a good pair. I kind of liked the Diego-as-a-dad dynamic, but then that ended rather abruptly.

The Sparrows were actually a lot of fun as antagonists. I wonder if we will see any of them (besides Ben) again if there is a season 4.

I wish the ending was a little more clear. What exactly was Reginald trying to do? What did Allison do and how did she know how to do it? Who was the woman with Reginald at the end--was she the one in that thing on the moon in the Luther flashback? What was the point of the credits scene with Ben on the train?
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i thought this season was kind of a mess. it's my least favorite of all the "anti-hero" or dark superhero shows.
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Originally Posted by Cellar Door
I liked this season a lot, but it was a little harder to like some of the characters.

Allison, for one, was used as an antagonist against the rest of the team. Her torment over losing her daughter was made clear, but in the past she was one of the characters that was easiest to like.

Five is still prominent, but not quite as front-and-center this season as he has been in the past. He's always had an abrasive personality, but his leadership and cleverness offset that, and some of that is missing here. And the Commission was mostly absent from the story (save for a part of one episode).

I thought Viktor's transition was handled well, and the scenes with him and Harlan were touching in those episodes, but later if felt like he was kind of useless to the story except when they needed his powers for something.

Ben, of course, is not the same and is very unlikeable now, but that is also on purpose.

I liked Luther and Sloane--glad the big lug finally found love. I kept worrying that she was just playing him and I was waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under him.

Klaus was still pretty fun, and I liked that he was the one doing some detective work about their mothers.

Diego and Lila make a good pair. I kind of liked the Diego-as-a-dad dynamic, but then that ended rather abruptly.

The Sparrows were actually a lot of fun as antagonists. I wonder if we will see any of them (besides Ben) again if there is a season 4.

I wish the ending was a little more clear. What exactly was Reginald trying to do? What did Allison do and how did she know how to do it? Who was the woman with Reginald at the end--was she the one in that thing on the moon in the Luther flashback? What was the point of the credits scene with Ben on the train?
That was his wife. I haven't read the comics, but I'm guessing a Mr. Freeze scenario where he just wanted to be with his wife again. I also don't think Allison knew exactly what would happen by pressing the red button, but she was just desperate to get her life back.

I'm on board for another season if it happens. But it seems there are no more comics for the next season to be based on so it would be a Game of Thrones scenario.
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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

I wish that naked fight was more like the one in Altered Carbon.


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Re: The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) -- based on the comic -- premieres 2/15/19

The ending was a bit lackluster, but I can appreciate that it was less of a cliffhanger in case it doesn't come back.

Allison was awful this season. Ooof. Made her completely unlikable.

I liked the Luther and Sloane stuff. Five was awesome as always. I would watch a spinoff of just him.




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