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Old 09-24-18, 04:32 PM
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IIRC Data's uh, Data was transferred to the dipshit clone... they can make that body look older as his contemporaries look older...
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IIRC Data's uh, Data was transferred to the dipshit clone... they can make that body look older as his contemporaries look older...
Not in Nemesis at least. I donít know if that was changed in a novel or something later on. B-4 is an inferior prototype who had trouble understanding and learning things unlike Data or Lore. I suppose they could use the excuse that Geordi or someone modified him. Still though it wouldnít exactly be Data even if he had his memories.
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Michael Chabon is writing Star Trek now?
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Not in Nemesis at least. I donít know if that was changed in a novel or something later on. B-4 is an inferior prototype who had trouble understanding and learning things unlike Data or Lore. I suppose they could use the excuse that Geordi or someone modified him. Still though it wouldnít exactly be Data even if he had his memories.
Data transferred his memories to B-4 before he died. The final scene of B-4 singing "Blue Skies" showed that he had begun to process and start understanding his brother's memories.
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Data transferred his memories to B-4 before he died. The final scene of B-4 singing "Blue Skies" showed that he had begun to process and start understanding his brother's memories.
Oh right I did forget about that. Honestly itís been a while since Iíve watched it.
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The novels fix the Data\B4 in a covoluted bit fun way. The new shows can reference that or just handwave it away.
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The novels fix the Data\B4 in a covoluted bit fun way. The new shows can reference that or just handwave it away.
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Michelle Yeoh’s character Captain Georgiou is getting a spin-off series.
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Anything that can justify why I pay for AllAccess is fine with me.
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Anything that can justify why I pay for AllAccess is fine with me.
Two new Star Trek series, the return of Discovery, and new TWILIGHT ZONE should be reason enough. It's only $5 a month.
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So doing a spin-off when the show itís based off of isnít exactly popular amongst fans? Seems like a weird decision rather than just focusing on making that show better but okay.
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So doing a spin-off when the show itís based off of isnít exactly popular amongst fans? Seems like a weird decision rather than just focusing on making that show better but okay.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that CBS has a better idea of whether Disco's popular than we do, and if they're throwing money at a spin-off, they have good reason to think people will watch it.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that CBS has a better idea of whether Disco's popular than we do, and if they're throwing money at a spin-off, they have good reason to think people will watch it.
I'm just basing my thoughts on most of the reactions I've seen, which overall are pretty mixed at best, and realistically Star Trek still isn't a brand popular with the mainstream audience. It probably isn't hard doing a spin-off when you already have the actress cast and can probably re-use some of the sets and stuff from Discovery. It probably is being done to get more original content on CBS All Access in hopes of keeping Trek fans subscribed.
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Two new Star Trek series, the return of Discovery, and new TWILIGHT ZONE should be reason enough. It's only $5 a month.
I donít consider offering up a plan that holds you hostage to commercials the actual plan. Now they can charge you more for the ďcommercial freeĒ tier to make it seem like youíre getting a bargain.
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I'm just basing my thoughts on most of the reactions I've seen, which overall are pretty mixed at best, and realistically Star Trek still isn't a brand popular with the mainstream audience. It probably isn't hard doing a spin-off when you already have the actress cast and can probably re-use some of the sets and stuff from Discovery. It probably is being done to get more original content on CBS All Access in hopes of keeping Trek fans subscribed.
It certainly isn't popular at the level of Star Wars, but the box office receipts for the recent movies show that there's a bigger audience for Trek than the small sliver of hardcore fans who watched Enterprise to the bitter end. The fact is, catering to the hardcores is what drove Trek off the air fifteen years ago. CBS is aiming for shows that will appeal to a much broader audience than that, and the whining from a small coterie of aging geeks isn't going to change that.
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So basically do a show thatís Star Trek in name only because they want to bank off of the name, but want to abandon most of the roots of what made it what it is. If itís popular which I think is still debatable anyways I guess it keeps the brand alive, but letís be honest those people arenít going back and revisiting the old shows more than likely. If the Abrams films werenít enough to reignite peopleís interest I donít see Discovery as being different.
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Originally Posted by Mike86 View Post
I'm just basing my thoughts on most of the reactions I've seen, which overall are pretty mixed at best, and realistically Star Trek still isn't a brand popular with the mainstream audience. It probably isn't hard doing a spin-off when you already have the actress cast and can probably re-use some of the sets and stuff from Discovery. It probably is being done to get more original content on CBS All Access in hopes of keeping Trek fans subscribed.
You're going on about something you haven't even seen?
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Considering Trek fans seem to be the ones that will spend the money, there's no reason for them not to keep pumping out ST shows. I mean, I don't see a thriving community of The Good Fight fans out there to subsidize this service.
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You're going on about something you haven't even seen?
Iíve watched a bit of Discovery (just started it actually as Trek came up in the thread for The Last Jedi) but didnít finish yet. So I canít say whether it gets better but basing off reviews it doesnít seem like Iíll like it any more by the end is what I meant. What Iíve seen hasnít been doing much for me. Iíll go back to it eventually, but Iím not a huge fan of the direction it seems to be taking and the season two trailer looks like more of the same. The spin-off I donít care about because I donít like that character from what Iíve seen of her.

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CBS is aiming for shows that will appeal to a much broader audience than that, and the whining from a small coterie of aging geeks isn't going to change that.
If that was the case, they'd be airing it on the network. Is this bigger audience outside of Trek-fans who paid to see the reboot movies paying for AA? I seriously doubt it.

If you're really going for a broader audience, you don't put it in an pay on-line service with little other original content.
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If that was the case, they'd be airing it on the network. Is this bigger audience outside of Trek-fans who paid to see the reboot movies paying for AA? I seriously doubt it.

If you're really going for a broader audience, you don't put it in an pay on-line service with little other original content.
Network television is dying. Every major content creator in Hollywood is looking to start their own streaming service to compete with Netflix and Prime, because that's where the future lies, and CBS is using Star Trek to do that.

This notion that Disco is a failure and CBS is just doubling down simply doesn't wash.
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You still didn't answer if this bigger audience is paying for AA. They're not.

There is a simple reason why CBS put this on AA. Because only the die-hards would pay for it. So when you say "CBS is using Star Trek to do that," I agree 100%, but it has nothing to do with the bigger audience that paid to see the reboot movies.
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If that was the case, they'd be airing it on the network. Is this bigger audience outside of Trek-fans who paid to see the reboot movies paying for AA? I seriously doubt it.
Space opera has, historically, struggled on network television. The original,Star Trek struggled on NBC for three seasons before finally getting the axe. Battlestar Galactica ran one season, Firefly got canned halfway through its first season.

Voyager managed seven years on UPN, but that was an upstart network and Trek was its only draw. Enterprise was cancelled after four years on UPN, and the network ultimately folded and merged with WBís upstart network.

Space opera seemed to really on work on first run syndication in the 80s and 90s with TNG, DS9, B5 (and even that was cancelled and rescued by TNT), and Andromeda.

The streaming services would seem to provide the same kind of home for these types of programs that syndication did for TNG in the 80s.

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You still didn't answer if this bigger audience is paying for AA. They're not.

There is a simple reason why CBS put this on AA. Because only the die-hards would pay for it. So when you say "CBS is using Star Trek to do that," I agree 100%, but it has nothing to do with the bigger audience that paid to see the reboot movies.
I think Discoveryís production costs were covered by selling the international streaming rights to Netflix, so thatís how CBS is funding it.

But, yes, theyíre absolutely using it as a draw to lure people to their stream8ng service. It has a built in audience that will pay to watch a new Star Trek (or Big Brother) series, that probably wouldnít take the plunge to watch new properties like Strange Angel.
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Early word is the Picard series probably won't be ready until near the end of this year.

Also, the Michelle Yeoh Section 31 spinoff is in early development. May not be ready until after Discovery wraps as a series.

Also, the animated Trek show won't be ready until 2020 at the earliest.
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