Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Looked like Littlefinger is already plotting to take over Winterfell by manipulating Sansa in Jon's absence.
Wonder what happens when Davos encounters Melisandre at Dragonstone.
Will he kill her at first sight throwing a wrench into negotiations?
Will Daenerys protect her if she's not killed outright?
Wonder what happens when Davos encounters Melisandre at Dragonstone.
Will he kill her at first sight throwing a wrench into negotiations?
Will Daenerys protect her if she's not killed outright?
#103
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I saw it mentioned somewhere that Theon actually saved Yara's life by jumping off the boat because had he charged at Euron, he most certainly would have slit her throat. Now whether he meant to do that is another matter.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I've never read the books so I can't speak to that, but in the context of the show, bringing those two to Cersei alive is a much greater gift than just bringing her their heads. Euron is giving Cersei the opportunity to kill Ellaria's daughter in front of her and then kill Ellaria. If Euron just brought her their heads, he would be robbing Cersei of her vengeance.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
And it will happen just as he seems to be realizing his ultimate goals. Remember, this guy was a big player from day 1 of the series. He was the one who orchestrated the murder of Jon Arryn to kick off everything that has happened in the show. His rap sheet is probably longer than anyone else's in the show.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
that's exactly how I viewed the scene and I don't know how anyone else could have had any other interpretation
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I have already addressed this. See post #26
Where the hell did you get that from my post? I didn't say anything implying it was sudden and unexpected.
It's completely unnecessary and irrelevant to the story. It's filler. Needless to say, they have absolutely no relationship in the books. It's part of the TV show because the producers want alittle more romance for the female viewers, that's it.
It's completely unnecessary and irrelevant to the story. It's filler. Needless to say, they have absolutely no relationship in the books. It's part of the TV show because the producers want alittle more romance for the female viewers, that's it.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I took it this way as well. Also Theon was quite active during the battle and they showed him killing at least one.. it's not like he went and hid in a corner.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Spoiler:
Euron's actor on Theon's jump:
Pilou Asbæk: He knew it. You can hear it in his laughter. He wants to break Theon down and see the humiliation. Or, even better, he wanted Theon to stand up for himself. Because why doesn’t Euron kill Yara? He should kill her! Or he should kill Theon. I think he wants them to become what’s in their blood: a king or queen – a Greyjoy. That’s more interesting than just wanting to slaughter them.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Wouldn't it be super radical if Missandei got with Theon after she breaks up with Greyworm? Varys can watch.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
^ Something just occurred to me. Tyrion was the only man in the war room meeting with a dick. He may be a small person, but he was larger than the other three.
Kind of wondering if Cersei will let the Mountain have Ellaria's daughter before killing her. Of course she could wind up just burning them both alive. Possibilities are endless on this show when it comes to disturbing ways to off characters.
Kind of wondering if Cersei will let the Mountain have Ellaria's daughter before killing her. Of course she could wind up just burning them both alive. Possibilities are endless on this show when it comes to disturbing ways to off characters.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
i thought he truly changed. i think it's some plan of his. i just don't see that same coward anymore. certainly not the same person he was, but little different. guess not...
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Speaking of, was Theon present when it was revealed that Ramsay is dead? I can't remember, at least I think it was revealed to Daenerys when they were talking about Jon.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Aside from her Revenge Quest, Arya's story is spinning its wheels since she is now the huntress rather than the wandering waif trying desperately to survive. As long as Jon, Sansa, and even Bran are still alive, hard to see what effect on the major game plays Arya would have short of taking out Cersei (and she'll have to get in line for that). As much as I like the character, her charmed existence may have outgrown its usefulness to the overall narrative. Her scenes in the show and the books used to be among the most-anticipated; now they're, frankly, kind of boring.
I was hoping they'd come up with some interesting things for the Sand Snakes but had pretty much given up on them as being good thoughts but superfluous characters, so not disappointed at seeing their demise.
We need to see more dynamic scenes written for Brienne & Jaime.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
That sums up the last 2 shows for me.
So Daenerys sails, picks-up (presumebly) the Dornish army with Varys at Sunspear at the end of last season, but waits until she's on Dragonstone to finally have this nice chat with Varys to decide if she'll kill him or not?
Theon jumps in the water. Why the hell didn't Euron or his crew go after him and capture him defenseless in 3 seconds? Or shoot him with a bow.
So Daenerys sails, picks-up (presumebly) the Dornish army with Varys at Sunspear at the end of last season, but waits until she's on Dragonstone to finally have this nice chat with Varys to decide if she'll kill him or not?
Theon jumps in the water. Why the hell didn't Euron or his crew go after him and capture him defenseless in 3 seconds? Or shoot him with a bow.
#122
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Because they explicitly showed Theon reacting to soldiers being mutilated before he makes his decision to jump off the ship. Euron and Yara's reaction also point to this being a clear act of cowardice:
Euron's actor on Theon's jump:
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/p...-euron-greyjoy
Spoiler:
Euron's actor on Theon's jump:
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/p...-euron-greyjoy
#123
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
It wasn't so much about what his reasonable options are, but another reminder that he is no Ironborn as their culture very much admires bravado and courage against unspeakable odds. This is consistent with Theon's major identity crisis theme running throughout his arc.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I'm not sure about the "saving Yara's life" part of Theon running away. If Euron wanted to kill her, I feel like he would have done it regardless.