Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I think the big revelation is the well kept secret that Cersei will have a defense against the Dragons as that somewhat changes everything. Everyone is telling Khalessi to use the Dragons to take over the world, and she is hesitant possibly knowing something like this could happen and then she leaves herself open?
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I don't think she wants to tell me (because I'm a non-book reader), but I think she is disappointed with the first 2 episodes.
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So far I hate what they're doing with Jim Broadbent. They add their first (I think) Oscar-winner to the cast and then turn him into a personified Do Not Touch sign. I get that they have to present Sam with some obstacles and adversity after his season-long trek to the Citadel, but geez this guy is a big wet blanket. I hope they give him some more stuff to do in future episodes and make him a little more interesting.
I watched Talk the Thrones after the episode last night. They mention that this will be our first visit to Casterly Rock, ancestral home of the Lannisters. That made me wonder : where was Tywin Lannister when we met him and "Arry" served as his wine steward?
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Pretty sure everything we saw with Tywin was at King's Landing when he became his son's Hand.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Honestly, it could just be placebo effect since we know it's not book material but the stories written in the books were more nuanced and weaving. Since being TV written, it feels more direct with less mystery behind it.
Using the fight at the end of this episode as an example; there was nothing shocking about it. We saw it coming based on the conversations and no major characters were lost. That scene in a book would have been more detailed as well as having more consequences. Martin wouldn't have written in such a large battle just for the sake of having it without more happening. I feel it was more TV service than proper GoT story-telling.
Even Arya's scene in episode 1. It was great to watch on screen but at the end of the day, she just killed off a bunch of no-one characters. We already knew the guy was dead, which made it very easy to guess it was her using her "powers". Again, nothing shocking from a story standpoint but very good for the sake of TV and cheering on a character people like.
Using the fight at the end of this episode as an example; there was nothing shocking about it. We saw it coming based on the conversations and no major characters were lost. That scene in a book would have been more detailed as well as having more consequences. Martin wouldn't have written in such a large battle just for the sake of having it without more happening. I feel it was more TV service than proper GoT story-telling.
Even Arya's scene in episode 1. It was great to watch on screen but at the end of the day, she just killed off a bunch of no-one characters. We already knew the guy was dead, which made it very easy to guess it was her using her "powers". Again, nothing shocking from a story standpoint but very good for the sake of TV and cheering on a character people like.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
That's an interesting perspective. I asked the same question to a girl I work with this morning as she has read all of the books. She said that the show is moving too fast now, and the books took their time. She said that characters are getting from point A to point B in the same episode, where in the previous seasons (by the books) it may take them 3 episodes to get there and you would get a real sense of their situation. She has always said it was a mistake to shorten the season as Season 7 and 8 should have been 10 episodes each to avoid these quick time gaps.
I don't think she wants to tell me (because I'm a non-book reader), but I think she is disappointed with the first 2 episodes.
I don't think she wants to tell me (because I'm a non-book reader), but I think she is disappointed with the first 2 episodes.
So far, it feels like Rome S2.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Sam got another great scene this week while inspecting Jorah of his greyscale and collecting samples. Loved the cutaway as he's delving into the infected flesh with a scalpal only to see someone digging into, what looks to be, a chicken pot pie. Nicely done.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Euron did say he would not come back to Cerci without bringing "gifts." He's got two now, so there's that.
Someone posted that their friend said that the show is moving really fast in terms of time and length than the books -- keep in mind, this is season is only 7 episodes long, so they're about a third of the way over.
Someone posted that their friend said that the show is moving really fast in terms of time and length than the books -- keep in mind, this is season is only 7 episodes long, so they're about a third of the way over.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
The most telling example was Arya's decision to return to Winterfell. If the end of the series wasn't in sight, she would have gone to King's Landing and would have tried to kill Cersei for the rest of the season. Instead, she went to reunite with her family which will help close her character arc.
The point is that they have to start finding ways to bring the characters together for whatever the "final" confrontation will be. They can't leave them all wandering the countryside following completely unrelated plots.
The point is that they have to start finding ways to bring the characters together for whatever the "final" confrontation will be. They can't leave them all wandering the countryside following completely unrelated plots.
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Between the bed-pan shit last week, and peeling greyscales, I think I have way too weak a constitution to sit through Sam's scenes.
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He was part of Tywin's war council in seasons 1 and 2. I think he was the one who suggested Cersei and her children leave King's Landing for Casterly Rock when Stannis was building his forces and nearing attack. We didn't see him IRC during seasons 3 & 4 when Tywin was in King's Landing.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
So far I hate what they're doing with Jim Broadbent. They add their first (I think) Oscar-winner to the cast and then turn him into a personified Do Not Touch sign. I get that they have to present Sam with some obstacles and adversity after his season-long trek to the Citadel, but geez this guy is a big wet blanket. I hope they give him some more stuff to do in future episodes and make him a little more interesting.
That's an interesting perspective. I asked the same question to a girl I work with this morning as she has read all of the books. She said that the show is moving too fast now, and the books took their time. She said that characters are getting from point A to point B in the same episode, where in the previous seasons (by the books) it may take them 3 episodes to get there and you would get a real sense of their situation. She has always said it was a mistake to shorten the season as Season 7 and 8 should have been 10 episodes each to avoid these quick time gaps.
I don't think she wants to tell me (because I'm a non-book reader), but I think she is disappointed with the first 2 episodes.
I don't think she wants to tell me (because I'm a non-book reader), but I think she is disappointed with the first 2 episodes.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
I read that some folks thought that the snakes' weapons should have been laced with poison like they usually are, but I figure everyone was caught of guard. Hell, the mother of the sand snakes was about to eat some bush, so you really can't say everyone had their wits about them. Euron also has some mad fighting skills, so....
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I think I misread that post. Yes, Cerseit won't have much interest in Yara. I'm a little surprised she wasn't killed immediately by Euron. Perhaps he wants to play up the killing of a sibling thing with her to gain Cersei's trust/appreciation.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Yep, although in the books it was Roose Bolton instead of Tywin.
We haven't seen Casterly Rock in either the show or the books yet.
I don't think he was just collecting samples, if I understood Sam correctly, he intends to peel off all of the greyscale!
We haven't seen Casterly Rock in either the show or the books yet.
I don't think he was just collecting samples, if I understood Sam correctly, he intends to peel off all of the greyscale!
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E02) -- "Stormborn" -- 7/23/17
Is it too obvious to predict a hero arc for Theon in which he vindicates himself by killing Eulon and saving Yara? Is that not what GOT does?
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