The Flash (S3E17) -- "Duet" -- Supergirl crossover -- 3/21/17
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Re: The Flash (S3E17) -- "Duet" -- Supergirl crossover -- 3/21/17
Singing and dancing was well done by every one. KUDOS Lady and Gentlemen.
Also neat seeing Martian Manhunter, Vibe, and Kid Flash for some team up action.
Overall a FUN time, 'A'
Also neat seeing Martian Manhunter, Vibe, and Kid Flash for some team up action.
Overall a FUN time, 'A'
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I thought it was silly fun and a good time. People take their superheroes so SERIOUSLY
Why does this self-righteous rant remind me of Patton Oswalt's "Cirque du Soleil" routine?
Kind of rolled my eyes at Joe and Stein being a gay couple and being dual Dad's to Iris. If Berlanti wasn't so concerned about shoving politics down our throats this season I would of thought it was cute. As it stands now though it just felt like more political garbage.
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I liked it, if for no other reason it was at least something different. Not entirely different since they had the alternate Earth/Earth-2 episode, but different enough that the episode stood out to me. Unfortunate presentation of the final song even if I did like the results.
I think the actors do a great job in connecting themselves with their roles. I can't see Melissa Benoist as anything but Supergirl, which is why her as a 30s chanteuse in full makeup had me looking more than once to see if it was her.
I think the actors do a great job in connecting themselves with their roles. I can't see Melissa Benoist as anything but Supergirl, which is why her as a 30s chanteuse in full makeup had me looking more than once to see if it was her.
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I enjoyed this. The music was pretty darn good and the message was pretty cool.
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Re: The Flash (S3E17) -- "Duet" -- Supergirl crossover -- 3/21/17
Kind of rolled my eyes at Joe and Stein being a gay couple and being dual Dad's to Iris. If Berlanti wasn't so concerned about shoving politics down our throats this season I would of thought it was cute. As it stands now though it just felt like more political garbage.
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Why does this self-righteous rant remind me of Patton Oswalt's "Cirque du Soleil" routin
Seriously. All due respect...You might have to ditch the Berlanti DC shows. EACH one has Gays in it. It's nothing new for these shows. It's... Uhm..kinda like real life where Gay people live, work, love, fuck, and exist all around us Straight folks? He isn't shoving anything down your throat..btw, interesting choice of words for a rant on Gays..but I digress.
My problem is I'm getting tired of his shows trying to shove his political beliefs down our throats. Supergirl this season has basically been one long screw you to Trump and conservatives, talking about climate control, immigration, calling him a facist, talking about how great a women president is after "Beating a completely evil man" while also being one giant after school special promoting the LBTQ community while doing it so heavy handedly it's bordering on ridiculous. Arrow had that completely asinine gun control episode. On Legends, every character Sara meets is secretly a closet lesbian who wants her while apparently no one else on that ship has any desire to bang any historical figures or historical figures to bang them. I get that it's probably a spoof of the ship's captain always having people want them but it's still cornball. Now in this episode there is a bi-racial gay couple who are dual fathers. If this had happened in any other season I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but with how Berlanti wants to put his politics on display in all of his shows it's hard not to role my eyes.
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Calling Trump a facist? He most definitely is one. Once again it's clear many need to quickly realize these CW DC shows are not going to be a conservative safe space. And including political commentary on these shows makes sense given comics have always involved politics from the perspective of when they were produced.
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DC Comics have virtually never been political in their entire history. The company has avoided real-life politics for the most part in comics, unlike Marvel's heavy left-wing slant over the decades.
What hasn't been mentioned is that all of Berlanti's DC shows have seen their ratings dip this year.
What hasn't been mentioned is that all of Berlanti's DC shows have seen their ratings dip this year.
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I've only seen a few episodes of Supergirl and none of Flash, but I watched this for the musical angle and because I used to watch Glee. I thought it was a great collection of singing actors and a fun episode, even if the songs didn't knock me out.
Agree she's charming as hell.
Green Lantern/Green Arrow was very political.
Agree she's charming as hell.
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The more I think about it the more it bothers me they weren't in costume during the superfriends song. It never felt like The Flash and Supergirl singing to survive Music Meisters trap. It was just Melissa and Grant being cute together. Might as well have been a Glee episode.
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Most were to some extent. But they were the right kind of political, so that doesn't count. I have no doubt the same is true with these "political" CW DC shows. If they got it right, nobody would be triggered.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
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Most were to some extent. But they were the right kind of political, so that doesn't count. I have no doubt the same is true with these "political" CW DC shows. If they got it right, nobody would be triggered.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
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It was cute. Nothing amazing. Didn't hold a candle to the Buffy musical, which is still the model of what an episode like this can be.
Benoist is truly the cutest thing ever though.
Benoist is truly the cutest thing ever though.
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Calling Trump a facist? He most definitely is one. Once again it's clear many need to quickly realize these CW DC shows are not going to be a conservative safe space.
And including political commentary on these shows makes sense given comics have always involved politics from the perspective of when they were produced.
Most were to some extent. But they were the right kind of political, so that doesn't count. I have no doubt the same is true with these "political" CW DC shows. If they got it right, nobody would be triggered.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
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The stupid thing is while I lean conservative, I'm fairly liberal in some ways also. The fact that I'm annoyed by it is pretty telling.
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Most were to some extent. But they were the right kind of political, so that doesn't count. I have no doubt the same is true with these "political" CW DC shows. If they got it right, nobody would be triggered.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
What is really telling is something as simple as showing diversity as it exists (gay/multi-racial couples) is considered political.
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the only show I feel completely tried to awkwardly shove "gay agenda" down my throat was Supergirl. the lesbian coming out arc was just fucking painful.
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My problem is I'm getting tired of his shows trying to shove his political beliefs down our throats. Supergirl this season has basically been one long screw you to Trump and conservatives, talking about climate control, immigration, calling him a facist, talking about how great a women president is after "Beating a completely evil man" while also being one giant after school special promoting the LBTQ community while doing it so heavy handedly it's bordering on ridiculous. Arrow had that completely asinine gun control episode. On Legends, every character Sara meets is secretly a closet lesbian who wants her while apparently no one else on that ship has any desire to bang any historical figures or historical figures to bang them. I get that it's probably a spoof of the ship's captain always having people want them but it's still cornball. Now in this episode there is a bi-racial gay couple who are dual fathers. If this had happened in any other season I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but with how Berlanti wants to put his politics on display in all of his shows it's hard not to role my eyes.
Then again this is the same forum where people complain that an interracial relationship is "forced political correctness"...
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Not at all what I posted.
What is telling is who keeps bringing up the political angle at all and calling out something as simple as showing a gay couple as evidence that the show has become political.
Nonsense. Most people who watch these shows don't have a problem with that. It's the way they make their point. At least be a little creative about it. Supergirl this season just isn't all that well written.
So is it shit writing or the "forced Gay/liberal agenda"?
Quod erat demonstrandum
I think your outrage says a lot less about Berlanti and a metric ton about you. You might want to reflect upon why this bothers you so much.
Then again this is the same forum where people complain that an interracial relationship is "forced political correctness"...
Then again this is the same forum where people complain that an interracial relationship is "forced political correctness"...
As for why it bothers me? Because it seems like they are more concerned with pushing a liberal agenda then actually making an entertaining show that everyone can watch. If you look at message boards a lot of people are getting annoyed by it and complaining each week But feel free to just ignore the evidence and examples in front of you.
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I'm sure there are plenty of conservatives (or at least right leaning people like me that are not triggered by just simply having a homosexual or inter-racial relationship portrayed on screen) that enjoy all of these CW DC shows just fine, left leaning politics and all.
I certainly know the flip side is true. I don't avoid otherwise enjoyable shows just because they lean right from a social perspective. And I don't complaint about it in threads like these because I know going in that the political angle is going to be there.
Quod erat demonstrandum
I think your outrage says a lot less about Berlanti and a metric ton about you. You might want to reflect upon why this bothers you so much.
Then again this is the same forum where people complain that an interracial relationship is "forced political correctness"...
I think your outrage says a lot less about Berlanti and a metric ton about you. You might want to reflect upon why this bothers you so much.
Then again this is the same forum where people complain that an interracial relationship is "forced political correctness"...
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Berlanti's shows have repeatedly forced gay and lesbian themes into the plotting and characters, no one can dispute that.
They took Mr. Terrific from the comics, a straight character, and then introduced him as gay on Arrow. They've spent nearly a season now on Supergirl showing a formerly straight character suddenly becoming a lesbian in her late 20s. It's been one of the clumsiest handled romances in recent television history.
Whether one wants to chalk that up to some social agenda is up to the individual to decide.
They took Mr. Terrific from the comics, a straight character, and then introduced him as gay on Arrow. They've spent nearly a season now on Supergirl showing a formerly straight character suddenly becoming a lesbian in her late 20s. It's been one of the clumsiest handled romances in recent television history.
Whether one wants to chalk that up to some social agenda is up to the individual to decide.
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Re: The Flash (S3E17) -- "Duet" -- Supergirl crossover -- 3/21/17
I thought the episode was awkward at best. I was sort of looking forward to it but was disappointed overall.