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MBoyd 08-02-16 12:12 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 12864915)
So the show is good, and anyone, any age, can like it.

Can someone that didn't live, remembers, the 80's love the show? I mean they won't get all the references, they won't the nostalgia, etc.

My wife was out of town when I watched it. She came back to me pestering to watch it. We got two episodes in and I fell asleep. When I woke up, she had binged the whole thing. And she loved it.

She grew up in China and was born in 1983. Most of the references I know she didn't get, but she probably enjoyed watching on her own without me trying to pause and explain things and show off my vast trivial pop culture knowledge that she doesn't give a shit about anyway! :lol:

Jay G. 08-02-16 01:12 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by SterlingBen (Post 12864928)
Yep, the show is good, and anyone, any age, can like it.

Yeah, while it's set in the 80s, it doesn't rely on nostalgia for that era.

It's a bit like asking if people from now can like a period piece, or a film/show actually made in a different era. People still like the movies that inspired this show, like E.T., Close Encounters of the Third Kind, The Thing, Evil Dead, The Goonies, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc.

DJLinus 08-02-16 10:59 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
I finished the show up tonight and really enjoyed it. I tend to generally not like child actors, but this group wasn't all that cloying or hammy. They seemed liked real kids, so good job there. The finale had a nice use of a Moby song I hadn't heard in ages.

Part of me wishes the second season would follow a different group of characters a la True Detective and just let this first season be its own thing. But I'm down for wherever they go next.


Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 12863851)
And that's the only example of a song that plays "in universe" that's anachronistic.

While it wasn't played, the Smiths were mentioned and that stuck out to me. From the AV Club: "Jonathan’s really ahead of the curve name-checking The Smiths for that mixtape he gave Will. That scene occurs while their father still lives with them, at least a year before the series opens in November of 1983. So Jonathan is into The Smiths six months or more before their first single is even released. That is one Manchester-savvy rural Midwestern high-schooler."


Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 12863899)
Sometimes this stuff will jump out at you if you're into the bands, or cars, or whatever.

Exactly. Music anachronisms in period movies get to me (See: a ranting blog post I wrote 10 years ago after I watched 13 Going on 30. :lol: ), but that's because I'm a music geek. I didn't notice the cars that didn't exist in 1983 at all, but my car guy buddy would totally spot that stuff. All that said, the show was good enough that it didn't really take me out of it.

GoVegan 08-03-16 09:52 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by The Infidel (Post 12863758)
Yes, I understand it's not a "historical reenactment". But you can't keep a certain time period in mind while watching a movie or show if something shows or plays that doesn't fit with the time period.

I've written a 14,000 word blog post about how the non "upside-down" universe is also a minor variation on our own - the only differences being several songs and car models, as well as the expression "are you serious right now?".

lysander 08-03-16 10:35 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 12864915)
So the show is good, and anyone, any age, can like it.

Can someone that didn't live, remembers, the 80's love the show? I mean they won't get all the references, they won't the nostalgia, etc.

My 16,14 and 12 year old loved it. I'm sure they didn't get half of the references but it is a good story. My kids are also really into Steven Spielberg so this was right up their alley.

Trevor 08-04-16 04:46 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/a...snd2eoeqm.jpeg

Thrush 08-05-16 10:17 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
This is second only to Fargo as the best TV show Ive seen in the past year. It was fantastic. The only negative for me was Wynonna Rider's "performance".

I took the scene at the end with the sheriff as him giving Eleven something to eat. As now she lives in the upside down. Maybe by choice as she realized she would never find peace in the normal world. Or maybe shes making sure that no more monsters can pass through to the normal world.

Abob Teff 08-05-16 11:52 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 12863911)
It's a bit like being in a certain field like medicine, law, or tech when a film/show utilizes them; the more familiar and knowledgeable about a given field, the more likely you are to notice the inaccuracies.

Sometimes it's honest mistakes, but sometimes its poetic license.

Damn, I'm a nerd. I can't swear to it, but I thought the Millenium Falcon was a newer (than 1983) version. I'm probably wrong. I hope I'm wrong. :)

Lt Ripley 08-06-16 02:37 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
You know as well as I do that is a newer falcon. Nerd up.

Shannon Nutt 08-06-16 03:14 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Abob Teff (Post 12867695)
Damn, I'm a nerd. I can't swear to it, but I thought the Millenium Falcon was a newer (than 1983) version. I'm probably wrong. I hope I'm wrong. :)

Yep...it wasn't the one released back in the late 70s/early 80s. I have one...it's got red stickers in the back (not blue ones)

Original toy version:

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/44/182...b90eea63_z.jpg

Geddlo 08-06-16 03:42 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 12867905)
Yep...it wasn't the one released back in the late 70s/early 80s. I have one...it's got red stickers in the back (not blue ones)

Original toy version:

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/44/182...b90eea63_z.jpg

Decals, man. Decals.

hdtv00 08-06-16 05:45 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
Netflix's newest hit show was rejected at least 15 times by other networks — here's why that's important

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/netfli...135743882.html

Shannon Nutt 08-06-16 10:35 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Geddlo (Post 12867918)
Decals, man. Decals.

In the 70s, they were still called "stickers." ;)

Eddie W 08-07-16 10:31 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by hdtv00 (Post 12867955)
Netflix's newest hit show was rejected at least 15 times by other networks — here's why that's important

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/netfli...135743882.html

That's interesting but glad it ended up on Netflix. NF seems to be one of the few outlets for new shows that give complete creative control to the ones who should have it. And don't let the suits decide what they think people will 'get'.

RichC2 08-07-16 08:17 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by Eddie W (Post 12868163)
That's interesting but glad it ended up on Netflix. NF seems to be one of the few outlets for new shows that give complete creative control to the ones who should have it. And don't let the suits decide what they think people will 'get'.

I occasionally wish Netflix would set some stricter guidelines (ie - Sitcom runtimes) but otherwise yeah, they give almost completely creative control to the team producing it.

bluetoast 08-07-16 09:58 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
This was pretty good. Nowhere near Fargo for me, but still up there for Netflix.

Interesting fact - M. Night Shyamalan hired/mentored them on Wayward Pines.

The Questyen 08-08-16 12:34 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by richc2 (Post 12868428)
i occasionally wish netflix would set some stricter guidelines (ie - sitcom runtimes) but otherwise yeah, they give almost completely creative control to the team producing it.

no.

OldBoy 08-08-16 09:55 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
I really hope this comes back...

slop101 08-08-16 11:39 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by hdtv00 (Post 12867955)
Netflix's newest hit show was rejected at least 15 times by other networks — here's why that's important

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/netfli...135743882.html

Please, don't just regurgitate click-bait headlines. It's not a rule or anything, it's just really fucking annoying.

fumanstan 08-09-16 12:47 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
Binged it on a flight to France and finished up the last episode at night in my hotel. Enjoyed it immensely, and like others said it was great having kids that weren't annoying and the weak link as far as acting goes. All the kids in this were great.

Spoiler:

I feel bad for Barbara too :(

Lastblade 08-09-16 07:11 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
Dustin (food loving kid) was my favorite, he was hilarious and talked some sense to Lucas/Mike when they needed it. Glad this wrap up nicely with a few open things for next season. It is funny that Nancy turned into
Spoiler:
such a badass in the end

RichC2 08-09-16 10:50 AM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by The Questyen (Post 12868523)
no.

Arrested S4 would have been stronger with slightly shorter episodes. Some constraints can be good. Mostly I think they would have benefitted from being roughly the same length.

But to each their own.

Jay G. 08-09-16 01:18 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12869558)
Arrested S4 and Schmidt S2 would have been stronger with slightly shorter episodes. Some constraints can be good.

It's hard to say. I think most of people's issues with Arrested Development S4 had more to do with the fracturing of the storylines and the focusing of each episode on certain characters. Part of the fun of the first 3 seasons was seeing the various characters storylines in parallel and watching how they collide with each other by the end of the episode. S4 was like that, but over the course of the entire season instead of each episode.

Also, I always loved the deleted scenes from S1-3 on the DVD, and remember feeling that some would've made the episodes better. So strict constraints can also be a bad thing.

To me, the time limit on TV episodes on Network TV have far more to do with fitting in commercials and conforming to strict 30 or 60 minute time slots than anything to do with creativity. That certain shows are able to do so well within those constraints is remarkable, but it feels like it's more likely in spite of those constraints rather than because of.

If certain Netflix show episodes seem bloated, it's because they're not properly edited, not because they don't fit an arbitrary time limit.

RichC2 08-09-16 04:56 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 
Eh, I don't fully agree or disagree, my issue with AD wasn't the fragmented approach so much as the episodes just dragged on, whereas the original 3 season were rapid fire -- the rhythm seemed altered.

But that said, I'm glad that Netflix basically lets the creative teams do as they please.

Jay G. 08-09-16 05:20 PM

Re: Stranger Things (Netflix) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: Winona Ryder
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12869958)
Eh, I don't fully agree or disagree, my issue with AD wasn't the fragmented approach so much as the episodes just dragged on, whereas the original 3 season were rapid fire -- the rhythm seemed altered.

And again, I'm arguing the altered rhythm was a result more of the altered structure than just the extended runtimes. I noticed while watching AD S4 that the first episodes were setting up things that were only getting paid off in later episodes, which altered the rhythm of the jokes.

And even if the editing on individual episodes was too loose, that's not to say that 22 minutes is the ideal length of an AD episode. It could be that the earlier FOX seasons had episodes that were hampered by being so short, and it's a bit presumptuous to think that the ideal length for every episode of every sitcom is an arbitrary length networks came up with to fill time slots and load in commercials.


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