The trial was fast tracked so it really hasn't been that long since the murder.

This is stupid but whatever.

I'm just throwing it out there.

Thee feet got cleared up. What more do you want? We already got our feel good ending.

I don't know how this show will end but I think a lot of people will be disappointed because I don't think we'll find out who really did it. Even if we do, there won't be any characterization of the real killer, assuming it's not Nas.

A major theme for this show is that the truth doesn't matter. Box and the prosecution don't care about the truth, they care about being convincing enough to make the jury believe their story. Stone hasn't cared about the truth since the beginning, which makes it much more ironic that he keeps insisting that Nas not hide anything.

These new suspects that we're being introduced too don't seem to exist in order for us to figure out who really did it. They exist because the defense wants to use them to create reasonable doubt. They're not trying to find the real killer, they're trying to make sure Nas doesn't get convicted for it and that's all that matters.

You find out what really happened in the original series. Whether they stick to that and the who and the how is yet to be known.

Have you seen the 2nd season? I've heard it was just as good as the first.

I think the major theme for the show is prison can turn people into criminals. And that Muslims are dealing with a lot of bigotry. Remember, this is HBO.

Apparently you know something we don't. How long has it been?

To each their own but I watch TV shows like this for the interesting characters, the atmosphere, the dialogue and the plot - sure you can skip 3 episodes and get the general idea of what the plot is - but you miss all the nuance and enjoyment of the journey to get there...doesn't mean the episodes were worthless or filler - again, that's just me - I don't watch a show like this strictly for the plot...

^I completely agree. Probably why some of my favourite movies are just movies about people/character studies.

Meaning what, exactly?

fully agree with this. im surprised by how often people see dialogue/atmosphere/etc as 'nothing happening'

That the politically correct will be front and center.

Oh brother, I didn't recognize that was the dad. NOW that scene makes sense, because I couldn't figure out what the hell that was supposed to be about.

There are extremes where this can fail, I love Broken Flowers but I couldn't stand The Limits of Control as it was too far over on the dialogue and atmosphere side.

Of course all of this is opinion and when you have a ton of procedurals on TV, the creators are forced to go against the grain when they look to make their iteration stand out; I just think that the way in which they boxed the main character into looking so obviously guilty, it gave me the sense that they would use this as a crutch to move plots forward as opposed to keeping things within the realm of practicality. If you think about it, the way they have approached the multiple suspects angle, how each was introduced in their own "you should really pay attention to this" lingering wink is another use of that crutch and it isn't really unique or nuanced.

The skin condition on the feet however, that's great!

So is this just a miniseries or will it return with a new season/new characters after this ends?

It's a miniseries. That's the way it was announced.

At least we will have closure with this story by the end of episode 8.

If they think they have a hit, they may have another season, with Turturro only coming back I guess. But based on most comments online, I don't think this can become a big hit. So I expect this to be done with episode 8.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...s-aug-14-2016/

Based on what? DVD Talk commentary?

Last week's episode was ranked #13 in Sunday's cable ratings. And that doesn't even count re-airs/On demand. It's definitely a hit for HBO.

I can definitely see them wanting to make another season, but whether or not it involves these characters is another story. I see this being a more anthology type series like True Detective.

And one episode left.

And as mentioned, they said next week is the series finale.

It has been a weird show. Some comments about the episode in spoilers just in case.

Worst episode of the series. How much animal abuse did we have to watch before--over episodes!-- apparently his miraculous conversion to a cat lover? (My complaint be not so much that it was specifically animal abuse, but that we've been beat over over the head with it.) And not the feet again. Enough with the time wasting pseudo-medicines. And much of the court room actions were ludicrous. I'd expect more objecting and more admonishments from the judge. I still don't get where he thinks his roll is partly a private dick, but yeah, the dumbbell was nice.

I guess it's not great to be in prison.

I thought it was a good episode and I'm stoked for the finale.

He's filling his roll as a private dick because he knows no one else is going to do it, and he wants to clear his client.

Told ya Nas was a true gangster from day one.

BUT don't forget that small snippet of that random victim that was found stabbed to death the same way. Coincidence or a serial killer?

Just a hunch, but Nas is going to get cleared - reasonable doubt... we fast forward and he's with the lawyer and we discover via flashback that he did it.

I'm not a fan of how this show has played out since the pilot. Watching Nas smoke crack in prison is nauseating. "Gangsta" or not, he was a bright kid with an education and at least some penchant for having work ethic.. Now he's thug and doing the hardest drugs there are? No way.

That's the thing, though. Nas was always a bad kid. He beat the shit out of two guys in school and sold drugs to his classmates. He was a repressed thug. At least in prison he can be who he always was.