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The more I read about the case and the evidence that was not presented in court and the stuff that wasn't mentioned in the documentary - the more I've come to the conclusion that just about everyone involved is horrible. I've never seen a trial where there this many low-lifes... and from both sides - including the lawyers.
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I just watched the series this weekend and started reading this thread today and...
Originally Posted by MrX
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One other thing, Angenette Levy in 2005 :hump:
She was the short, brunette reporter wearing glasses. |
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For me, the two most attractive women in the doc. were:
The female bus driver that dropped the kids off in front of the Averys' - she was interviewed at one point in court. Man, she was hot! I don't remember female bus drivers looking like that when I was a kid ;) The somewhat short, busty female reporter with shoulder-length straight dark hair - didn't catch her name. |
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Originally Posted by TheDude
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This reminds me yet again why I never want to serve on a jury - there are too many stupid people out there.
Originally Posted by TheDude
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I'm not saying I think SA is innocent because I don't think he's capable of the crime; I'm saying I think he's innocent because I don't think there is enough evidence to support that he did the crime & I believe there is definitely proof that the police planted evidence.
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The reporter with glasses is in Twitter. She still looks good. :)
What Was Left Out of Making a Murderer Episodes 5–7 http://www.vulture.com/2016/01/makin...des-5-6-7.html Good read. There are articles for the previous episodes too. They started really impartial, in the first article, but in this one they just can't help it. |
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Originally Posted by Tom Banjo
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I was kinda digging Laura Nirider, the lawyer that was in the last episode or two.
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Wife said on GMA this morning a juror said they voted guilty because they feared for their safety.
Found this online: The unnamed juror who spoke with the filmmakers revealed that they only voted to find Avery guilty to protect themselves. "Obviously we asked this person, 'So, explain what happened, why did you cast your vote for guilty?' And what they told us was they feared for their personal safety," Demos said on "Today." |
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Originally Posted by badlieut
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Found this online:
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So, anyone that knows the law, if that juror, and even more, say the same thing, that they were afraid. Will that change anything for Avery?
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Originally Posted by Raul3
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So, anyone that knows the law, if that juror, and even more, say the same thing, that they were afraid. Will that change anything for Avery?
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Originally Posted by badlieut
(Post 12688055)
Wife said on GMA this morning a juror said they voted guilty because they feared for their safety.
Found this online: The unnamed juror who spoke with the filmmakers revealed that they only voted to find Avery guilty to protect themselves. "Obviously we asked this person, 'So, explain what happened, why did you cast your vote for guilty?' And what they told us was they feared for their personal safety," Demos said on "Today." |
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Originally Posted by Coral
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Feared for their safety from who?
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I just finished episode 4. This is fascinating. I do recall parts of this story form other formats and believe that even a movie/TV show used part of the story but I am going to stay out of here until I finish this. I started reading the first page and I believe it will be in my best interest. Hopefully I can get through this in the next few days...everyone is talking about it and it is EXTREMELY hard not to Google it and find out what happens.
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Originally Posted by TheDude
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I'm not saying I think SA is innocent because I don't think he's capable of the crime; I'm saying I think he's innocent because I don't think there is enough evidence to support that he did the crime & I believe there is definitely proof that the police planted evidence.
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Steven Avery -- My Brothers May Have Killed Teresa Halbach
http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/06/steven...eresa-halbach/ The plot thickens! Just in time for them to start filming season 2. Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by Coral
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Feared for their safety from who?
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Avery juror volunteered for Manitowoc Sheriff's Dept. during trial - http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articl...volunteer.html
Dismissed Steven Avery Juror Tells PEOPLE Jury Members Were Related to a Local Cop and a County Employee - http://www.people.com/article/steven...unty-employees |
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Originally Posted by inri222
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Avery juror volunteered for Manitowoc Sheriff's Dept. during trial - http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articl...volunteer.html
Dismissed Steven Avery Juror Tells PEOPLE Jury Members Were Related to a Local Cop and a County Employee - http://www.people.com/article/steven...unty-employees |
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Sadly that's normal in small towns. And if you want to go globally that's even worse.
But yeah, judges, DAs, etc. all are in the same side. In some cases even defense lawyers are in the same side as them. So if some people are being look as the bad people of the town, they will never get proper justice. In some cases that will be fine, even if justice isn't perfect, but there are some cases like this one... |
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Riveting documentary, but I have no interest in seeing it again.
Spoiler:
This documentary is scary. Kudos to the lawyers Strang and Buting. I thought they did an excellent job. |
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Just finished watching all 10 episodes. That was without a doubt one of the saddest, scariest and most anger inducing documentaries I've ever watched.
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Just finished... will comment more later. I am spent now. This was riveting.
I can't state enough that no one should be in this thread if they have not finished it. There is just enough that is not spoiled that can spoil it. |
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Regarding the consistency between the juries, there doesn't need to be any. They're hearing different cases, and may not be aware of anything presented in the other trial. From the POV of the legal system, the two trials may as well be occurring on two different planets in two different solar systems. There certainly might be shared witnesses, shared evidence, etc., but as pointed out in the documentary, the prosecution is under no obligation to even present a coherent storyline of what happened. As Avery's defense lawyers assert, it's pretty much morally repugnant, but not illegal or against legal ethics.
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Alas, given that this case has been fully adjudicated in court including appeals, there is sadly no chance they'll get clemency. Certainly not from President Obama, who has no jurisdiction since this is NOT a Federal case, and even less so from Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker.
Also, there are many complaints that the producers of the series "picked and chose" the facts like the people choosing food in a buffet line. Many legal experts said that they missed a lot of evidence and facts presented during the trials. |
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Even with the picking and choosing of evidence or whatever light they may have presented him in - The fact still remains that there's plenty of reasons to say that there's a lot of REASONABLE DOUBT as to him doing the crime he was convicted of.
And even more evidence to show that some shady shit happened behind the scenes in the wheels of justice. |
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