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Old 12-22-15, 01:59 PM
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"Making a Murderer" -- Netflix documentary series

I was going to post it in Other, or another forum, but decided to keep it here.

It took me 3 days to watch the 10 episodes but I could probably watch it in one day. It was compared to The Jinx and Serial, so my expectations were really high.

After watching the first episode I was a little let down, based on the previous buzz. But by the third episode my blood was boiling.

I didn't cry but felt really sad during the entire series. Some things that happen, when you watch it in a fictional show, they may sound funny, dark humor, and stuff. Sadly this was real life.

I will stop here, and wait for some replies to talk more details about the show and the case.
Old 12-22-15, 04:23 PM
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re: "Making a Murderer" -- Netflix documentary series

Sounds like an uplifting holiday watch...
Old 12-22-15, 08:14 PM
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Haven't started it yet. I was less than 50 miles from this psycho.
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I loved The Jinx so, so much. If this is in the same ballpark, I'm in.
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Haven't started it yet. I was less than 50 miles from this psycho.
Which psycho?

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Kratz? Kachinsky? O'Kelly? Lenk? Colborn? Willis? I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
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I'm 3 episodes in. Glad you made a thread; I almost did one a couple of days ago. Avery definitely is not a model citizen, but my blood boils too. At this point in the story it really does feel like the police might have framed him, as unbelievable as it sounds.
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I finished ep one. I assume it's just the tip of the iceberg?
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Originally Posted by andicus View Post
Sounds like an uplifting holiday watch...

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Thanks for the heads-up, Raul3. Sounds right up my alley.
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I finished ep one. I assume it's just the tip of the iceberg?
Yep. Even though it tells a complete story by itself, it's more like a prologue.
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I will wait until more people watch the entire series to make more comments.

By episode 4-5 you'll feel an urgent need to google the story. Don't do it. Believe me. Don't do it.
Old 12-24-15, 07:21 AM
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re: "Making a Murderer" -- Netflix documentary series

Blew through this in a couple of days. Wasn't expecting to get sucked into it as much as I was.

Definitely don't google what happens if you don't know.

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Just absolutely incredible and completely heart breaking. I don't think I've ever yelled at my TV so much before. Absolutely shocking that they convicted Brendon with just those shit confessions and not even any circumstantial evidence. Those last couple of episodes were just brutal. I stayed up until 2 AM watching and of course when I was done had trouble falling asleep.
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I watched this with my wife. I'm sure she got annoyed at me on how much I was yelling at the screen.

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Let's talk about the elephant in the room, just for starters. Yes, the creators of the documentary were totally against the police and 100% in favor of the defendants.

You can edit anything to make your point and all that kind of stuff.

Still, there's some stuff that can't be edited. No special effects can do wonders with some stuff.

In the last episode when they get all the lawyers, the comment from one of them resonate on me. Something like: "I want to think that Avery is guilty. I really want to think that. Because otherwise we have failed as humans in this society... " Something like that. I want to think that too.
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I watched the first two episodes today and am fighting the urge not to Google.
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My daughter and I watched the first three episodes tonight. What a crazy case. Avoiding Google, but doubt this ends well.
Very interested in it, but feel it could move a little quicker. Wondering how they can milk this story for ten full hours.
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I'm on episode 5. If I'm ever in trouble I want Avery's lawyers lol
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The documentary makes Avery's lawyers to look like movie lawyers indeed.

But.
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I live fairly close to where all this shit went down. It's pretty much the talk of the town around here. I look forward to starting the series tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how much I remember.
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My daughter and I watched the first three episodes tonight. What a crazy case. Avoiding Google, but doubt this ends well.
Very interested in it, but feel it could move a little quicker. Wondering how they can milk this story for ten full hours.
I feel like after the first episode or two it kind of slowed down, but by episode 6 it started rolling, and I couldn't stop watching it.
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don't know anything about this specific aspect of law, can someone with more info tell me how....

(relating to the outcomes of Steve and Brendan's trials)

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How can the prosecutor have two separate theories of what happened in the two trials - Steven is convicted of killing her in the garage, while Brendan is convicted of cutting her throat/raping her in Steven's trailer. I'm assuming its some legal mumbo jumbo. seems insane to me
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I think I watched six episodes yesterday (two the day before). At 10:30 I was debating watching one more, but then I knew I would probably want to watch the last one.
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Went through all the episodes this weekend.

I agree that the show has an obvious bias towards the defendants and is set up to make the cops and prosecutors look bad...

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however, putting all that aside - it's pretty incredible how flimsy the prosecutions case looks and that there's definitely some corruption involved. A few things that really stick in my mind are:

a) the lack of Terea's DNA in the trailer, bed/matress, garage, etc. except for a tiny little amount on a bullet found in the garage - which seems VERY out of place and conveniently found.
b) the lack of Brendan's DNA anywhere at the crime scene.
c) the car key that just appeared out of nowhere suddenly
d) how coerced Brendan's confession was
e) the lack of sense where Terea's blood was found in the back of her RAV4 - which indicates she was transported

And two things about Colborn that really makes me feel he's the centre of the framing:

a) his calling in a license plate number and asking for confirmation of it being a 99 Toyota. It's obvious he looking at he car days before it was officially found
b) when asked if he touched the shelf next to where the key was found, he immediately states that he "handled it roughly - twisting it, shaking it, pulling it" - offering up more information than needed (being defensive). He was already trying to set up a scenario to explain why the key could've just showed up. However, it doesn't make sense why he needed to handle that shelf so roughly and it doesn't explain how the key could still wind up underneath slippers.

In any case, there were just way too many holes in this case to make me feeling Steven and Branden are guilty.
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Originally Posted by Decker View Post
Wondering how they can milk this story for ten full hours.
I think they could have done it in 8 hours. Heck, simply cutting down on the inordinate number of shots of the salvage yard and the family members sitting around doing nothing but looking upset would have been a good start. Still, I was glued to the screen the whole time. Christ, Kratz was one hell of a weasel; I wanted to smack that mustache off of his face with a 2x4.
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Being a real life event, and kind of recent event, most of the people involved, the ones that are free, have online accounts. And you can imagine what has happened after the documentary was released.

The defense lawyers are fine of course.

Manitowoc Twitter and Facebook accounts not so much.

Kratz yelp page? You can imagine the reviews.

Also, it's clear to me that for most locals Avery was guilty. That's what most people is commenting online. Some have doubts now, after watching the documentary.
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Being a real life event, and kind of recent event, most of the people involved, the ones that are free, have online accounts. And you can imagine what has happened after the documentary was released.

The defense lawyers are fine of course.

Manitowoc Twitter and Facebook accounts not so much.

Kratz yelp page? You can imagine the reviews.

Also, it's clear to me that for most locals Avery was guilty. That's what most people is commenting online. Some have doubts now, after watching the documentary.
Spoiler:
Well the series focused with the defense because the prosecution would never admit what the defense was accusing the prosecution/the system was doing/had done, so the series really had no choice. The film did, however, have a decent amount of interviews/footage of Teresa's brother and some of an ex-boyfriend. Felt like someone was going on there.

It's a shame we didn't get to find out more about those cellphone calls Teresa was receiving, who they were from mainly. That part was interesting, but went nowhere.

That prosecutor is a douchebag, and I loved how his deviant and unethical behavior became public. Loved the hypocrisy about his reputation was going to be ruined. Karma is a bitch.

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