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Old 05-05-15, 11:57 AM
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The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15




"Grodd Lives" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, LV) (HDTV)

GRODD RETURNS! - Barry (Grant Gustin) must deal with the Reverse Flash's (Tom Cavanagh) latest threat to a member of the group. To make matter worse, Dr. Wells unleashes Grodd on the city in order to distract Barry and the team. Joe (Jesse L. Martin), Barry and Cisco (Carlos Valdes) head down into the sewers to catch Grodd but the gorilla quickly gets the upper hand after he kidnaps Joe. Iris (Candice Patton) and Barry have a heart to heart talk. Dermott Downs directed the episode written by Grainne Godfree & Kai Yu Wu (#121). Original airdate 5/5/2015.


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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

I simply can't wait. Holy hell.. this looks amazing.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

With the appearance of Grodd, we are one step closer to my ultimate dream- a live-action Legion of Doom. Captain Cold is also in the Legion of Doom.

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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger View Post
With the appearance of Grodd, we are one step closer to my ultimate dream- a live-action Legion of Doom. Captain Cold is also in the Legion of Doom.
Been there, done that. Spoilerized for size.

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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

Whatever happened to Retired Man?
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Who the fuck is the old guy on the right? W/ SC on his costume?
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I LOVE this show. But Grodd seems really dumb. Hope they prove me wrong.
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Who the fuck is the old guy on the right? W/ SC on his costume?
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Whatever happened to Retired Man?
The "SC" stood for "Senior Citizen."
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Grodd was great but too much Iris bitching. A slower episode than we have seen lately. Mostly setup for the finale.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

Holy shit Grodd was BAD ASS.

Ten minutes into Iris knowing about Barry I was ready for a Smallville concussion reset. However, it worked out in the end, I like her being Barry's emotional center. Well played on the writers' part.

Loved Cisco's movie nods in this one, especially ROUS and Jurassic Park.
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Love the show, but I just didn't think Grodd worked.
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I thought this was the best episode of the season. Grodd was bad ass. He was scary, intimidating and looked great. Reverse Flash is obviously great as always. He's taking his spot as one of the all time great TV villains.

Iris is, Iris. Not much more to say about her. But after some of her gripping was over she wasn't as annoying.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

Iris has to go. How she reacted to the situation is exactly the opposite of how Lois addressed the situation on Smallville, and why Lois and Clark mean something. Iris and Barry just don't have the same resonance.

For comic readers, I assume they aren't brother/sister?

Good to see the General is still around.

Wouldn't be surprised if Eddie is going to be a villain in season 2.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

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I thought this was the best episode of the season. Grodd was bad ass. He was scary, intimidating and looked great. Reverse Flash is obviously great as always. He's taking his spot as one of the all time great TV villains.
I thought seeing Grodd was awesome, they kept his mental powers and everything. I could see a lot of the non-comic book readers rolling their eyes at a character like Grodd but it was pure heaven for me. They even constructed a semi-plausible fight between the Flash and Grodd, something this show has had trouble doing in the past for some other meta-human (meta-ape?) battles.

For a few seconds I really thought they were going to have Grodd force Joe to commit suicide. I didn't want to see it happen but that would have been a brutal shock to the audience after the Wells' revelation from last episode. That is the kind of move you could pull off if the CW didn't care about this show running more than a couple of years.

I think Iris acted pretty much like I expected. Barry and everyone else in her life kept Iris in the dark for the entire past year, even her boyfriend she is supposed to marry soon.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

They can't kill Joe. He's a solid character. It's not like Pa Kent on Smallville reciting the same mantra every episode.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

I still think it would be a bit hard to stop a punch going several hundred miles per hour.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

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I still think it would be a bit hard to stop a punch going several hundred miles per hour.
He isn't a normal gorilla. He has some kind of super strength going on along with his mental powers.
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He isn't a normal gorilla. He has some kind of super strength going on along with his mental powers.
I know a bit about him from the comics. He would have to be quite a bit stronger however comic type shows do what they can at times, nothing is going to be perfect and Flash so far tires to make as much sense as they can for a comic show. (Love this show)
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

at Joe trying to give Grodd a banana.

Pretty cool episode. The special FX to create Grodd were really well done for a TV budget. He was quite intimidating. But yes, most of this episode was set up.
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

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Who the fuck is the old guy on the right? W/ SC on his costume?
The Scarlet Cyclone, aka Retired Man -- a character made up for this terrible, terrible, terrible show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_of_the_Superheroes
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I'm thinking Harrison is going to pull a body switch on Eddie.
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I'm thinking Harrison is going to pull a body switch on Eddie.
Eddie is very handsome. I wonder if Barry will go back in time to save his mom and change the entire time line - one where Joe doesn't raise him, Thane doesn't kill Wells and so on and so on...
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Re: The Flash (S1E21) -- "Grodd Lives" -- 5/5/15

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The Scarlet Cyclone, aka Retired Man -- a character made up for this terrible, terrible, terrible show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_of_the_Superheroes
See I thought the SC stood for Super Creepy...
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Eddie is very handsome. I wonder if Barry will go back in time to save his mom and change the entire time line - one where Joe doesn't raise him, Thane doesn't kill Wells and so on and so on...
If that happens he will never be the Flash and won't stop Crisis; at least according to this version. Reason I thought Wells was going to swap with Eddie was because of all the shit he was saying how Eddie was worthless in his family history.
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