House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
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Re: House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
Finished the last two episodes and they reinforced my thoughts from a few days ago even more. My biggest disappointment in the finale was:
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I finished the season last night and overall enjoyed it. Great production values, laughablly unrealistic politics, not as many campy/shocking scenes as before. Definitely the weakest of the three seasons for reasons mentioned earlier. His rise to power was more interesting than his maintaining it.
I can't help but think that the timeline of the season would've been pushed deeper into the general election had:
The creator answers that question in a political manner, of course:
http://www.indiewire.com/article/hou...son-4-20150306
Now that I'm done with the American version, I think I'll check out the original one. I wasn't really considering watching it, but the description of him in this thread as being an even bigger bastard than Frank has got me intrigued.
I can't help but think that the timeline of the season would've been pushed deeper into the general election had:
Spoiler:
The creator answers that question in a political manner, of course:
So I now have to ask you the obvious question: I don't think there's been an official announcement yet, but did you write Season 3 with the assumption there'd be a Season 4?
You're absolutely right. There has not been a Season 4 announcement yet.
That's a really good answer to that question.
[laughs]
I think, though, anyone that's come to the end of Season 3 looks at that ending, especially that last scene, and sees another season's worth of drama right away.
Well, by the time you come to the end of Season 3, if we've done our job, you have some questions and probably want them answered. But the world does not know yet if those questions will be answered or not.
Very well done. Very well done.
I write a show that takes place in Washington, for God's sake. I have to know how to deflect a question with some degree of skill.
You're absolutely right. There has not been a Season 4 announcement yet.
That's a really good answer to that question.
[laughs]
I think, though, anyone that's come to the end of Season 3 looks at that ending, especially that last scene, and sees another season's worth of drama right away.
Well, by the time you come to the end of Season 3, if we've done our job, you have some questions and probably want them answered. But the world does not know yet if those questions will be answered or not.
Very well done. Very well done.
I write a show that takes place in Washington, for God's sake. I have to know how to deflect a question with some degree of skill.
Now that I'm done with the American version, I think I'll check out the original one. I wasn't really considering watching it, but the description of him in this thread as being an even bigger bastard than Frank has got me intrigued.
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Re: House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
I liked the season but will agree that it didn't have the "fun" factor of the first 2 seasons. However, one of my big worries was that this show was going to start entering Dexter territory with it's storytelling. I actually appreciated having Frank be on the defensive for most of the season and that most things didn't work out for him.
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Finished watching it last night.
Now about America Works: As a Democratic president - Frank wanting to get rid of safety nets, social security, etc seems very right wing and conservative... however, using federal funds to create jobs (from both taxes and borrowing) seems very liberal.
Therefore, I could not see Frank standing a chance winning any Democratic nomination or primary with wanting to get rid of Social Security.
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Now about America Works: As a Democratic president - Frank wanting to get rid of safety nets, social security, etc seems very right wing and conservative... however, using federal funds to create jobs (from both taxes and borrowing) seems very liberal.
Therefore, I could not see Frank standing a chance winning any Democratic nomination or primary with wanting to get rid of Social Security.
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Re: House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
I loved Season 1. I liked Season 2. I was kinda "meh" about Season 3.
I watched Season 1 in a matter of days. It took me longer to watch Season 2. I spaced out Season 3 even longer than Season 2.
I wonder if enjoyment & episode watching rate is a chicken/egg issue. Did I watch Season 1 the fastest because I loved it? Or did I love it because I watched it the fastest? It seems like this is the kind of show where binging hides the flaws and spacing the viewing out exposes them.
I watched Season 1 in a matter of days. It took me longer to watch Season 2. I spaced out Season 3 even longer than Season 2.
I wonder if enjoyment & episode watching rate is a chicken/egg issue. Did I watch Season 1 the fastest because I loved it? Or did I love it because I watched it the fastest? It seems like this is the kind of show where binging hides the flaws and spacing the viewing out exposes them.
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Maybe the fact that Fincher was a lot more hands-on with the first season is what made it better?
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Naw, the seasons have just gotten less interesting as it goes. The House of Cards needs to topple entirely if we're getting another season.
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Not enough Frank talking to us this season. Count me as one who could watch a Doug Stamper spinoff. His whacky ways are strangely mesmerizing...
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Re: House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
Agreed. For me that was one of the hooks that drew me in initially. Without those "break the fourth wall" comments it's a traditional political soaper.
Agreed again.
I think Stamper is a pretty interesting character - in a dangerous, loyal-yet-unpredictable way.
I think Stamper is a pretty interesting character - in a dangerous, loyal-yet-unpredictable way.
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Finished it today. I'm a slacker apparently. I was actually hoping Frank would loose in Iowa. You figure there is about a year and a half left in his term, more then enough time for another season.
What I would do in season 4 (assuming it is the final season). Dunbar get the nomination and is running for President. Frank is just bitter over it and is doing all he can to sabotage her campaign. "Screw the party, I won't let her win" At the same time, trying to do things to preserve his legacy. He goes too far and pretty much all his secrets are exposed, destroying whatever legacy he hoped to leave.
Also hoping Doug would let her go and move on with his life. Or she would get the upper hand and kill him. And make sure he's dead this time.
What I would do in season 4 (assuming it is the final season). Dunbar get the nomination and is running for President. Frank is just bitter over it and is doing all he can to sabotage her campaign. "Screw the party, I won't let her win" At the same time, trying to do things to preserve his legacy. He goes too far and pretty much all his secrets are exposed, destroying whatever legacy he hoped to leave.
Also hoping Doug would let her go and move on with his life. Or she would get the upper hand and kill him. And make sure he's dead this time.
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I just finished watching this the other day. I enjoyed it but agree that it is the weakest of the 3 series so far. The whole thing with Doug really didn't bother me, they showed a man who had the opportunity to change and decided not to, that power was too important to him and that's why I'm hopign Doug's return to Frank will cancel out Claire leaving him. That, by the way is what I found annoying with the show, Claire's always been a stong woman, to me her reactions in the later part of the season of hating her need for Frank seems so out of character as they have both needed each other the entire time.
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There's good and bad news for Netflix's House of Cards.
The streaming service has handed out an early season five renewal for the political drama — but showrunner Beau Willimon will not return, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. It's unclear who will replace Willimon as showrunner.
“Prior to its fourth season premiere, Netflix and [producers] Media Rights Capital are thrilled to announce that House of Cards will return for a fifth season in 2017. Concurrent with the renewal, creator and showrunner Beau Willimon is departing the critically acclaimed series," Netlfix said in a statement. "Netflix and MRC owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to Beau Willimon for his strong narrative vision for House of Cards over the show’s first four seasons. As an Academy Award-nominated writer, he made his first foray into television and built a riveting and critically acclaimed series, establishing his place in TV history. The producers, cast and crew join us in wishing Beau the best in his next creative adventure."
The news comes ahead of season four's March 4 debut — and after season three's lackluster reviews.
Willimon adapted House of Cards from the BBC mini of the same name. The series helped put the streaming service on the map with original scripted fare. The drama has been an awards season staple from the start, winning three Emmys for its freshman run in 2013.
Star Kevin Spacey also exec produces alongside Joshua Donen, Eric Roth, Dana Brunetti, Andrew Davies, Michael Dobbs and David Fincher.
The streaming service has handed out an early season five renewal for the political drama — but showrunner Beau Willimon will not return, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. It's unclear who will replace Willimon as showrunner.
“Prior to its fourth season premiere, Netflix and [producers] Media Rights Capital are thrilled to announce that House of Cards will return for a fifth season in 2017. Concurrent with the renewal, creator and showrunner Beau Willimon is departing the critically acclaimed series," Netlfix said in a statement. "Netflix and MRC owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to Beau Willimon for his strong narrative vision for House of Cards over the show’s first four seasons. As an Academy Award-nominated writer, he made his first foray into television and built a riveting and critically acclaimed series, establishing his place in TV history. The producers, cast and crew join us in wishing Beau the best in his next creative adventure."
The news comes ahead of season four's March 4 debut — and after season three's lackluster reviews.
Willimon adapted House of Cards from the BBC mini of the same name. The series helped put the streaming service on the map with original scripted fare. The drama has been an awards season staple from the start, winning three Emmys for its freshman run in 2013.
Star Kevin Spacey also exec produces alongside Joshua Donen, Eric Roth, Dana Brunetti, Andrew Davies, Michael Dobbs and David Fincher.
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Re: House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
I don't see the need for a 5th season. It should wrap up this season and be done. The latter half of season 3 was a snoozefest.
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Absolutely agree. It didn't need a third season.
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I'm betting the show is extremely difficult for Willimon to write and he just doesn't have the energy to do it again.
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House of Cards S4
This starts back up March 4th. Here is a link to the trailer. Not sure how to imbed
http://youtu.be/NTzycsqxYJ0
http://youtu.be/NTzycsqxYJ0
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Re: House of Cards (Netflix) - Season 3 Discussion Thread - Available 2/27/15
Finally finished S3, only took me a year..
I enjoyed the middle, the beginning and the end not so much...
I found the Claire stuff interesting and boring at the same time, the writer stuff was pretty boring, the Doug stuff ok, the Remy and Jackie stuff was very good, I like those character a lot, I liked the Seth stuff and could have used more.
Agree with more Frank at Camera, those are always great moments.
Will tune in for S4 to see if I can keep the momentum going.
I enjoyed the middle, the beginning and the end not so much...
I found the Claire stuff interesting and boring at the same time, the writer stuff was pretty boring, the Doug stuff ok, the Remy and Jackie stuff was very good, I like those character a lot, I liked the Seth stuff and could have used more.
Agree with more Frank at Camera, those are always great moments.
Will tune in for S4 to see if I can keep the momentum going.
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I liked Season 1, and thought Season 2 was OK, and liking Season 3 more as I am about halfway through. I still think this could have been a much better show if they really delved into Frank and Claire's characters instead of just making them calculating evil caricatures. A show like 'The Americans' gets inside the characters and the toll it takes on them and that is what is missing in HOC. Now it's intentional so I am looking for something that just isn't there, but it's a bummer cause this could have gone from a good show I watch to one of the greats.