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Old 11-18-14 | 01:17 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Draven
Noah pulled him back - it wasn't like a security gate closed in front of him. And made the point that they would give her medical help.
Yes, I'm aware that's what happened. I just disagree with Preterite that Carol being far enough ahead of Daryl and Noah so that the cops hit her but not see them would hardly be the only way that Carol could get captured in a convincing and interesting manner.

It wasn't even a big complaint or really bothered by it, I just thought they could have gotten from Point A to Point B in a better fashion.

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Old 11-18-14 | 01:58 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Preterite
She was attacked and captured by the cops in a method that fit with their previous MO.
I think she was intentionally run down. It seems to be how this group operates -- they take in injured people (who they may or may not have purposefully injured themselves), heal them, then use for slave labor under the pretense that they are "owed."
Old 11-18-14 | 01:58 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

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Yes, I'm aware that's what happened. I just disagree with Preterite that Carol being far enough ahead of Daryl and Noah so that the cops hit her but not see them would hardly be the only way that Carol could get captured in a convincing and interesting manner.

It wasn't even a big complaint or really bothered by it, I just thought they could have gotten from Point A to Point B in a better fashion.
For me, since it's already been established that this is basically how the hospital captures people, it wasn't a big stretch to see the information we already had play out on screen.
Old 11-18-14 | 02:04 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Draven
How often are they having to check for cars these days? Or randomly running into other people?
Obviously: not often enough.

Originally Posted by Neil M.
I also think we can expect a flashback in the next episode to explain how the van landed.
Didn't they spend 20 minutes covering their asses on Talking Dead? I don't watch it, but my understanding is that is the purpose of TD.
Old 11-18-14 | 02:13 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Draven
Again, I think this is a silly point of contention, but people are hit by cars ALL THE TIME. Sometimes on quiet roads.
Yes people do get hit all the time, but very, very, rarely on QUIET roads. And even then only when there are other contributing circumstances. This would have been the quietest of all quiet roads. I mean seriously, you could probably hear a car coming from blocks away given all "normal" background noise does not exist.

Personally I'm good with most minor logic issues, but those involving automobiles in this last episode are really hard to overlook.
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And some folks make excuses for everything that happens on the show and can't seem to accept any criticism about the show. Same shit, different perspective no?
Hey, I'm happy to call out stupid shit that happens on this show - the van flip, the entirety of season 2....

Also, I hardly think it was the ONLY way Carol could have been captured. Especially in a way that happened to get her captured with Daryl and Noah conveniently out of the picture and unnoticed.
Oke-doke - give us one.
Old 11-18-14 | 02:23 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Preterite
She was attacked and captured by the cops in a method that fit with their previous MO. It's also the only way Carol could have been captured on her own without getting Daryl involved, without nerfing Carol's badassness, and without the cops getting decimated (remember, the hospital crew does not "keep" those who fight back). The only other option would be for Carol to pull a Trojan Horse gambit, and there's no way Daryl would let her do that and no way Carol would voluntarily render herself the helpless victim she once was.

I swear, some folks fixate on the most inconsequential things. If that van scene had taken place on Z Nation, youse guys would still be applauding it.
Originally Posted by Preterite
Oke-doke - give us one.
Since you asked ...

It would have made FAR more sense (in the big picture) for them to have pulled Carol out of the van wreckage while deliberately leaving Daryl behind. Noah sees this happen and then rescues Daryl, explains to him about the hospital, and they go from there. For the record, I don't have a huge issue with Carol being hit by a car. I actually found it funny. Still do.

I hate to say this, and I will take some flack for it. For as cheesy as Z Nation can be, I think it is winning the battle. Yes, some of the things they do are hokey and bizarre, but they have managed to stay within the rules of their universe. The Walking Dead show runners have continually changed the rules of their own game and defied physics as well as time and space. TWD deserves all the shit it takes because it brings it on itself. It is a good show. It could be better if they would quit being so damned sloppy.

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Old 11-18-14 | 02:38 PM
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This show continues to get monster ratings. It's now regularly beating out Sunday Night Football in the coveted 18-49 demo. I have no doubt that AMC will continue airing this show for another decade, when Beth and Daryl's son gets lost in Canada.
Old 11-18-14 | 03:06 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Preterite
Hey, I'm happy to call out stupid shit that happens on this show - the van flip, the entirety of season 2....


Oke-doke - give us one.
I mentioned it earlier and Abob mentioned it, but I think the van falling would have been the perfect set up for Carol being picked up. Otherwise they set up that action sequence only for it to have little consequence other then some bruises. I don't think the cops would leave Daryl in that situation like Abob mentioned, but if they only had one gurney that makes sense to pick up Carol first. Or have Carol be the only one that gets trapped in the van.

I've never watched Z-Nation, so I'm actually not familiar with references to that show at all.
Old 11-18-14 | 03:12 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I have no doubt that AMC will continue airing this show for another decade, when Beth and Daryl's son gets lost in Canada.
MOD NOTE: Folks, please stop reporting this post. It is speculation in jest, not an actual spoiler.
Old 11-18-14 | 03:21 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Yes, it was a joke. I don't even read the graphic novels. Mere wishcasting, people. I don't read spoilers for the show, either.
Old 11-18-14 | 03:28 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

I hope that was just Groucho being Groucho.
Old 11-18-14 | 03:57 PM
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You know, I thought about this show the other day. All of our electronic payment devices went down at work the week before a holiday. It was scary. You break one little thing in the digital age and everything falls apart. I really should have a paper map in my car.

I calibrated my HDTV-perhaps not well-and some scenes are still looking dark to me.

I was wondering when someone on this show would actually run out of gas. It's been years since the apocalypse, you'd think there wouldn't be any left anywhere.

Wonder if that post-apocalyptic city is a digital matte painting? Looks pretty good. That big crane shot on the bridge was impressive. Some of the camera moves are pretty fluid. Wish you could see some of that Super 16 grain, I suppose it's all removed when they digitally process the footage.

Interesting trick with the van drop. No wide shot though .

So now Carol is feeling sympathetic enough to help someone? Daryl is right, the guy did try to kill them, why was she so eager to help. Though I suppose I'd have killed the zombie and left him to his own devices, at least given him a chance like he eventually decided to do. I'm. Guessing he'll be part of the group when all is said and done. I assume he and Daryl are heading back to the group and will come with the gang and raid it for Beth? Maybe Abraham and the crew will get back and Rick's crew won't be there?
Old 11-18-14 | 04:05 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

The gas thing is problematic. Gas starts to literally gel after a few months of storage as the light ends evaporate.

Maybe they should have a scene where the characters hit a Home Depot and get some fuel stabilizer.
Old 11-18-14 | 05:33 PM
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GPS would still work, right? I was thinking about that when they were trying to figure out how to get to DC.
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There's probably zombies in space.
Old 11-18-14 | 05:39 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
Since you asked ...

It would have made FAR more sense (in the big picture) for them to have pulled Carol out of the van wreckage while deliberately leaving Daryl behind. Noah sees this happen and then rescues Daryl, explains to him about the hospital, and they go from there. For the record, I don't have a huge issue with Carol being hit by a car. I actually found it funny. Still do.
Why would they leave Daryl behind? Does he look too badass? Why wouldn't they kill him then?

I hate to say this, and I will take some flack for it. For as cheesy as Z Nation can be, I think it is winning the battle. Yes, some of the things they do are hokey and bizarre, but they have managed to stay within the rules of their universe. The Walking Dead show runners have continually changed the rules of their own game and defied physics as well as time and space. TWD deserves all the shit it takes because it brings it on itself. It is a good show. It could be better if they would quit being so damned sloppy.
No. Z Nation is crap. The last episode was horrible. The whole fucking meltdown thing made absolutely no sense - the uranium would've melted down in seconds if not encased in water, and oh yeah, hey, the water needs to be constantly circulated and replaced because it gets hot! And you can't actually touch uranium, because it's REALLY FUCKING HOT!

And you complain about cars flipping. Yeesh.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Shazam
Why would they leave Daryl behind? Does he look too badass? Why wouldn't they kill him then?
Didn't they kill Noah's uncle or dad that he had been traveling with for that reason? Or did they just leave him to die?

Leaving Daryl alive is the only flaw with picking up Carol after the van crash. It might have worked if Daryl had gotten out of the van before it tilted, but then the van would have had to topple on its own rather than having a mob of zombies moving it. But then folks would be complaining about how stupid Carol was for getting into the teetering van, and how silly it was for the hospital cops to have picked up Carol before Daryl could get down there.
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I thought that they assumed Daryl was hurt or something. Why spend the resources combing the city to find him?
Old 11-18-14 | 06:17 PM
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yeah that editing job with the van was not good and the outcome was also not very believable. but, this show rivets me to no end. i don't have much attention span of late, but damn if i can't sit still for an hour of this show!!
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I think she was intentionally run down. It seems to be how this group operates -- they take in injured people (who they may or may not have purposefully injured themselves), heal them, then use for slave labor under the pretense that they are "owed."
That's what I was thinking as well. I also think this storyline will be over before the end of episode 8. These "cops" have limited muscle and don't seem to have a clue how dangerous it is out there, thinking Beth didn't have what it takes to live. They have no idea what is coming at them, nor how dangerous Carol can be if/when she heals.

Anyone have any idea what that male cop was up to when he got out of the car? Was pretty dark and I couldn't make out if it was anything significant or not.
Old 11-18-14 | 06:43 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

If she was hit intentionally, then they did a really poor job of conveying that. It looked pretty natural to me. I didn't really have any problem with her getting hit. I'm just scratching my head a bit as to why they were in such a rush to get outside. It seemed like hiding out might have been the better option.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Neil M.
If she was hit intentionally, then they did a really poor job of conveying that. It looked pretty natural to me. I didn't really have any problem with her getting hit. I'm just scratching my head a bit as to why they were in such a rush to get outside. It seemed like hiding out might have been the better option.
Weren't they trying to get into the basement of the next building to hide?
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by DJariya
Daryl and Carol would have had broken necks and backs had the first and actual fall been used.
True. This often happens to stunt people when a car jump lands wheels down flat (missing or overshooting a ramp). They commonly end up with broken pelvises and/or backs.
Old 11-18-14 | 08:39 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E06) -- "Consumed" -- 11/16/14

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I think she was intentionally run down. It seems to be how this group operates -- they take in injured people (who they may or may not have purposefully injured themselves), heal them, then use for slave labor under the pretense that they are "owed."


That's the way I took it.


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