"What The Flick?" episode recap:

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They also did a reaction video (I think only the guy sitting on the left side has read the books and knew what was going to happen)

Can I put this here?



I am putting this here.

Lena Headey posted this two months ago on her Instagram account. Heh!

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I forgot about that!!! I thought that picture was cute when I first saw it, now much less so.

I am still so bummed out. I will never again fall in love with a new character on Game of Thrones, no matter how perfect the actor is in the role. God damn it.

Holy shit!!!! God damn that ending.



at Mrs Pucci freaking out. That was awesome.

Agree 100%. It adds nothing, but that is the culture we live in.

I disagree. Oberyn's death is supposed to be shocking and horrifying. If you were really there watching in person, you would most likely physically react to the violence in front of you (unless you're Tywin or Cersei, who appeared as if they saw heads implode all the time). The show's creators want you to have that visceral reaction as well, not to have you lying on your couch eating chips, desensitized to the on-screen events. They want you involved, recoiling in horror and repulsed at the horrible death of someone you admired.

Good god. They made a fake head and filled it with Karo syrup. That has nothing to do with our "culture" - it was a practical effect on a cable TV show. Jump back a few hundred years and they really WERE crushing heads for sport.

There's a Time magazine post that suggests that the head crushing could happen based on research done regarding Star Trek Into Darkness and the force needed to make a head explode.

http://time.com/2809061/game-of-thrones-exploding-head/

Also... the gif no one wants to see. Or maybe everyone wants to see.

I haven't watched the show in a while -- who did she end up using the power of veto on?

When I die, I plan on donating my body to Hollywood in hopes of one day making a more accurate head explosion and hopefully a better Star Trek sequel.

Well based on the books, I can tell you that...

I know it's a matter of opinion, but anyone watching this show not expecting some shocking level of violence or brutality is being really naive. Oberyn getting his eyes & skull crushed may have seemed overboard and sadistic to a few, but IMO it was an expected end result from the fight with Clegane. He was taunting and pushing Clegane, especially in that last few minutes. Clegane isn't a gentleman. He's a fucking brute who probably has that level of sadistic behavior from all that battles he's faced and seen. The character is for all intents and purposes a sadistic animal.

And it's not like this show is 10 hours of gratuitous violence and torture every season. It's an R rated fantasy series and alot of it's story is driven by dialogue. Being on a premium network like HBO allows Weiss and Benioff to add those type of scenes when necessary to drive the storyline & not be hampered by censors in order to inspire motivations of certain characters. I know a few here lost there minds and bitched about the violence in the Red Wedding episode last season, but that whole sequence really drove the last part of season 3.

I believe it wouldn't make any difference. From what I've heard, a legitimized bastard would go to the end of the line of succession, so even if Jon Snow became Jon Stark, he would still be behind Robb, Bran, and Rickon.

But you're not providing a reason why it shouldn't be gory, except that it bothers you. That's the whole point, though, it's supposed to bother you. It bothered me and everybody I watched it with. The duel is one of the most iconic scenes in the books, and it's remembered for the gruesome nature of Oberyn's death. I was dreading it, because I knew the show would be faithful to such an important scene. In the books, it's so disgusting that Tyrion throws up at the sight of it. Watching somebody die is horrific, and the producers shouldn't cut away because a character is likable, or perhaps we don't need to see that, because every once in a while, we do need to see it.

This scene is the culmination of 17 years of rage and grief on the part of Oberyn, he has lived only to get revenge for his sister. The fact that he gets so close to victory but puts himself in a compromising situation shows how completely consumed he is by his need for vengeance. He had the duel in the bag, all he had to do was finish off Clegane, but that's just not good enough for him, he needs a public confession that implicates Tywin. He is so consumed with rage that he gives up his own life, and condemns Tyrion to die. If you haven't noticed, the series isn't kind to characters that are purely motivated by revenge: Robb, Catelyn, Viserys. Oberyn wanted blood, and he got it.

One of the strengths of Game of Thrones is its unflinching depiction of violence in a very brutal world. This is not the cliche fantasy world where a spunky lowborn girl can talk sass to a nobleman and earn his respect in the process, in real medieval times she would have been raped and killed on the spot. Martin did a lot of research and his story reflects a realistic portrayal of medieval times. Basically life sucked if you weren't lucky enough to be born a nobleman. Life in Westeros is full of violence and injustice, so the violence in the show is absolutely essential for the story that's being told, and if you can't handle it, you don't have to watch. I find it interesting that people are voicing objections four years into the show. The first episode featured a zombie girl, a beheading, incest, and the attempted murder of a child, I think their intentions were pretty clear from the beginning. We all have different thresholds, but to be disturbed by Oberyn's death is 100% normal, and the intended reaction.

Reaction video, to the end of the battle, from a group of people watching at a bar.

Only a bunch of hipsters would watch Game of Thrones in a bar.

Bars are hosting TV show watch parties these days?

A lot of bars in my area have Walking Dead watch parties.

Holy shit, that sounds cool.

Yup.

I could never watch a show I like with strangers. There's always someone talking. Someone giving spoilers. The funny guy, etc.

I suppose they have "rules" in this kind of places but still.

I would like to have a big crowd to watch something like that, but I would have the same hesitation as those above. Plus the fact it's a bar so magnify those unruly theater people with a drinking crowd.

Ok, first off, I'm not trying to kill anyone's buzz. I LOVE this show. I totally get that Westeros is a ridiculously violent place and bad things happen to people. I get all of it. I'm not afraid of it. It's brutal. It's dark. Pregnant women get stabbed. Dudes lose their cocks. Horses get decapitated. I get it. Thematically I have no problem with it. I wouldn't advocate changing one word of the story being told. Sometimes it's disturbing, but that's the way it's supposed to be. I get it.

All that I'm saying, is that for my taste, sometimes they amp up the gore a little too much. I don't bring it up because it makes me squeamish. I don't bring it up because I want to make some kind of moral stand. I bring it up because at a certain point I feel like it crosses a line into exploitation. It takes me out of the story. Rather than be wrapped up in the shocking drama of Oberyn's downfall and Tyrion's sentence, I'm now focused on how disgusting Oberyn's face getting crushed was. I become more cognizant of the special effects than the actual content of the story. Maybe that was the point, but if I were editing the episode, I probably would have cut away a little sooner from his face. I probably wouldn't have lingered on the overhead shot for quite so long. I don't know. I've only watched it once and my comments weren't meant to be a referendum on this one particular scene. I'm an advocate of the idea that less is often times more. That's it. It's an opinion I have and I was just curious if anyone shared that opinion. I'm sorry I didn't bring it up 4 years ago, but I've only been watching this show in real time since season 3. I didn't realize there was a statute of limitations on these things.